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@the-ensemble-system
I don't get why Endos are following this account despite me clearly stating DNI and to leave me alone AND also not posting for months. like wtf do you want? you're only hurting yourself by following because I'll only say invalidating things about you when I gave a CLEAR MESSAGE not to interact to keep you from having to see stuff like that
how do qiuogenic systems exist??
you mean to tell me you dont know how your system formed? it formed from trauma, whether you remember said trauma or not. if you do not have trauma you cannot be a system
"there's nothing saying a system is formed only by trauma" there absolutely is, my friend. Yes, there are cases of systems existing when people don't remember their trauma, but they still have that trauma
a system is formed only before your brain has created a sense of wholeness or self. That can be at any age before the ages of 3-11. Those ages, especially when younger, may not be able to recall trauma, but it still had to have happened for a system to have even been formed
just because you don't remember your trauma doesnt mean you cant be a system, but claiming to not know how your system was created, to me, just seems like a way for endos to worm into real system safe spaces.
not remembering trauma is not the same as not knowing what happened. i knew i endured trauma of some kind long before i remembered what that trauma was. my brain couldnt handle not knowing and created alters to deal with everything for me
the point of alters is to deal with trauma. sometimes that means having alters made from media to cope or having alters based on your abuser to help you remember and cope. i have introject alters inspired by my abuser; yes that means these alters are abusive but i cant help it
i didnt make my alters by will; they were made for me. i have fictive alters based on characters from media i consumed when i was young to help me feel better about who i was and help me cope, i have little alters who are the age i was when i endured my trauma, etc.
youll notice these alters were all formed to help me cope and help me remember; that is the point of alters.
alters dont just form randomly unless trauma is brought back up; for instance, more alters of mine were formed during therapy for my trauma and in the cases of me remembering my trauma. This goes for othee systems with many alters as well
i feel like endos want to only roleplay these scenarios of having truama or friends and think its a fun thing to have- it isnt. my slters are not my friends and there is a scarce amount of them that i actually like. i only try to acknowledge those ones but i still have many
i also dont believe people who claim to have 100s of alters but dont remember their trauma; why did they form if you had scarce reason for them to?? anyway rant over i just absolutely despise people who want to have what i and many others have suffered with
Vent... We'll see if this posts the whole thing or if I'll have an issue with it losing half my post.
Someone on Twitter posted a question that I answered.
I talked about scientific evidence, the misunderstanding of the DSM and the criteria, the application of the DSM, the gatekeeping around trauma, the misleading idea of "mixed origins" for alters vs the origin of the system, specifically.
They responded, and we went back and forth specifically about the dysfunction criteria, which I've broken down before and is probably one of the most misunderstood criteria of all. I provided sources to back up where I was getting my interpretation from, and overall, I thought it was a good conversation. It never got heated, it never escalated, it was just a discussion around what's considered to be dysfunctional.
As a point, "suffering" is a very strong word. It's never used in the DSM, I don't think I've ever considered myself to be "suffering". I am living healthy multiplicity. I experience little to no dysfunction in my daily life. I work full time, I have a family, I'm well educated. I am still an OSDD system. The DSM includes me with it's own wording.
This afternoon, the OP was going back and forth with someone more open to the idea of endogenic systems, and I was still being tagged (probably by mistake). This is the tweet that set off this post.
I provided a total of five sources regarding the interpretation of the dysfunction criteria. We talked about how I AM functional and integrated, as they are.
This hurts.
There's so much internalized ableism about "being disordered". It's gross to people. I'm gross to these people. I'm disordered, dysfunctional, distressed, and suffering, or I'm apparently an endogenic because I'm NOT. This person genuinely believes they're endogenic because they're not dysfunctional.
What does this mean for me, and others like me? My diagnosis is being stolen away from me by people who don't understand the DSM, and consider academic evidence supporting my interpretation to be "opinion".
How badly do you have to hate the idea of being disordered that you would throw five REAL sources away and claim it's all the opinion of a single person, just so you can continue to not call yourself disordered?
I hurt. This hurts. This stigma around being disordered hurts. In the eyes of endogenic systems, I've received a death sentence, and when I tell them otherwise, tell that I'm doing quite well, I guess... I'm a liar? That I'm wrong? And that everything supporting my claims is just gatekeeping opinions of an industry meant to discriminate against the endogenics?
I'm so frustrated. I'm sad. I guess I'm suffering, even if it's only at the hands of endogenics that don't want to be "lumped in with those disordered systems".
Me: This thing is triggering to me!
Them: You’re overreacting!
It’s almost like that’s what being triggered means!
in order to lead a happy life im gonna have to disappoint my parents a bit
not to be dramatic but this post genuinely made me consider my priorities in life and the choices i need to make for my own wellbeing
Can anyone who thinks alters are people like/reblog this post? Please?
Reblog if its okay to message you on anon until I am comfortable enough to reveal myself to you
This user is a traumagenic system
me: after all the abuse I’ve endured, i just want to be treated with compassion and respect. i want my partner to never let me forget i’m safe.
also me, pulling my own hair out: WHY WON’T YOU JUST HIT ME?!?!!!!????
If you’re in a relationship, and you are afraid to tell your friends about something that your partner did to you because you are afraid they will think badly of your partner, that’s a red flag.
Ppl tagging trigger warnings like “////:t///://w///“ so its impossible to filter the tag
Buddy, no one is going to guess your keysmash of a trigger warning and be able to filter it out in ther blocked tags. Be considerate and just tag it like a normal person.
If I was triggered by body horror there is no way I’m gonna be filtering “/////////b*dy h/rr/r /////“ because I’m not guessing that it’s going to use 10 slash marks and two different types of censoring. (Yes this is a real way someone tagged it) please use consistent, predictable, easy, blockable tags.
Endos, Natural systems, tulpas, whatever the other stupid words you all have now, do not interact.
I’m not held accountable for anything you might find offensive.
-Conner
Who's Endo?
What, not who. In my DNI, I'm referring to Endogenic systems, or "natural" systems. These are people who believe that alters/splitting/ect can be achieved naturally and without trauma.
We have strong opinions on this and prefer people like that not interact with us.
Multiple System Ask Meme
1) How many system members are there?
2) Youngest member? Oldest?
3) Any friendships within the system?
4) Any relationships within the system?
5) Does your system have a name?
6) Any fictives or factives in the system?
7) What does the headspace/inner world look like? Is it just one building/area, several, or more?
8) Do members have separate rooms/areas? Does anyone share a room?
9) Any unused rooms/areas?
10) Unexplored rooms/areas?
11) Who likes/dislikes being in the headspace/inner world?
12) Any members who never leave the headspace/inner world?
13) What do members do in the headspace?
14) Is anyone religious? What are their religions?
15) Who cofronts the most often (what group/pair)?
16) Are there any otherkin in the system?
17) What is something that system members have very different opinions on?
18) Does anyone talk with a different voice in the outer world? In the inner world?
19) Favourite part of the inner world/headspace?
20) Least favourite part of the inner world/headspace?
21) Running jokes within the system?
I'm currently working on a project for class and I need some examples from people who experience stigmatization of their mental health.
What are common stigmas that you deal with once someone is made aware of your diagnosis, or stigmas you fear you'll be labeled with if you share?
Are there any horror films that add to that stigma?
Why is it so hard to tell when something/someone is abusive
I'm currently working on a project for class and I need some examples from people who experience stigmatization of their mental health.
What are common stigmas that you deal with once someone is made aware of your diagnosis, or stigmas you fear you'll be labeled with if you share?
Are there any horror films that add to that stigma?
