we get together, we fuck, is simple

show pilled. shane hollander apologist. ilya rozanov enjoyer.

[mymansmoon]

so I think sometimes, at the end of the day when they're both in bed and shane is sleepy and ilya isn't so much because he's more of a night owl than shane, ilya will bring shane close and kiss along his neck and move his hands over his body until shane is warmed up and hard against ilya's hip. then ilya will slick his fingers up so he can finger shane, nice and slow the way he knows will have shane arching and trembling in his arms. ilya will be kissing him but not as much as usual, moreso pulled back so he can gaze at shane's face as he works him up.

and when shane inevitably starts pushing his hips into ilya's hand, whispering "fuck me, please. please please fuck me. ilya" ilya will shake his head and hold shane tighter and say "I want to watch you" and shane will shiver all over and close his eyes, overwhelmed. he'll let ilya have it. let him just see. the flush that draws to the surface of his skin. the furrow of his brow that makes it look like there's nothing more serious in the world than his pleasure—which ilya believes, wholeheartedly. the wet, warm cave of his mouth as he pants and moans. occasionally, when ilya can bring himself to look down and away from shane's face: the appearance and disappearance of ilya's shiny fingers from and into shane's body, between his strong parted thighs, below his swollen beating cock.

but always always ilya will look up when shane is coming. shane's face in the moments he knows nothing but pleasure is the most beautiful sight in the world to ilya.

and when shane starts coming back down ilya will draw him as close as he can possibly get and hug him and kiss his face and say "thank you, moy lyubimyy, that was beautiful, you were so good" and shane will smile, warm, with his eyes closed, and snuggle into ilya's chest. when he reaches a hand down to touch ilya's cock ilya will grab his wrist and shake his head, "no, malysh, it's okay. I'm okay" because that isn't what this is about for ilya, and shane can return the favour tomorrow if he wants, but right now ilya is shushing him to sleep and ilya feels so full and happy from getting to have shane like this he could lift a mountain

[hollanovwriterscamp]

Hollanov Writing Camp – Week One!

We're so excited to announce that the first Hollanov Writers Camp will run from August 1st–7th!

Week One Concept: Canon Divergence

Day One – What if Shane hadn’t introduced himself to Ilya in Saskatchewan?

Day Two – What if Rose didn't break up Shane?

Day Three – What if Ilya really wanted to go through with his plan to marry Svetlana?

Day Four – What if only one of them got outed first?

Day Five – What if Shane came out publicly after breaking up with Rose?

Day Six – What if the proposal went wrong?

Day Seven – What if Shane didn't know if Ilya was okay after the almost plane crash?

We can't wait to write with all of you. 🫶 FAQ | AO3 collection

[radialarch]

shane's first time anal "that was so fucking hot" a little dopey and fucked out and completely sincere... do you think that's what did it. ilya's nearly desperate "please. go" in sochi. hollander leaning to chase ilya's thumb in his mouth, eyelids sliding shut in pleasure, the way his whole body went loose. it's just sex, hollander. you can't-- you don't even know what you're doing. big wet eyes, heart wide open. it's going to hurt. it's going to hurt you. i'm going to--

[hollanovwriterscamp]

Hi! We're mareastralis and AkirasStories and we've been writing fanfiction for quite a while now. We're huge fans of Heated Rivalry (both the books and the TV adaptation) and, of course, we love writing Hollanov ourselves.

As the fandom has grown so quickly over the past months, we've noticed that it can sometimes feel surprisingly lonely to be a writer. There are so many talented people creating amazing stories, but not always many opportunities to connect with one another.

We've also noticed that, as the fandom keeps growing, fanfiction can sometimes start to feel more about consumption than community. It's easy to scroll, read, move on, or forget that there's a real person behind every story who spent hours, days, or even months creating it. At the same time, online spaces can sometimes become unnecessarily harsh, and that's the opposite of the environment we want to foster.

We want this event to be rooted in kindness. We want people to leave comments because they genuinely enjoyed something, encourage writers who are just starting out, celebrate each other's successes and remember that fandom thrives because people choose to create and support one another. We believe that a little kindness goes a long way, and we hope this camp can be a small reminder of that.

Strating in August, we'll post one main concept and seven daily prompts. You can write for one day, several days, or all seven—whatever fits your schedule and inspires you. Whether you write 500 words or 50,000, you're welcome here. If people enjoy the event, we'd absolutely love to keep it going and turn it into something we can all look forward to regularly.

More than anything, though, we hope this becomes a place for community.

We want writers to cheer each other on, leave comments, celebrate every finished fic, brainstorm together, ask for advice, share headcanons and simply have fun creating again.

With AI-generated writing becoming more common, we also wanted to create a space that celebrates human creativity. We're proudly anti-AI when it comes to fanfiction. We believe writing is about imagination, growth, collaboration and finding your own voice—not replacing it. Everyone starts somewhere, and we hope this can be a place where writers of every experience level can learn from one another, improve together, and feel supported.

We'd also love to help people connect! If you're looking for a beta reader, would like to beta for someone else, or just want a writing buddy to bounce ideas off, let us know! Send us an ask or leave a comment and we'll do our best to help match people up.

This event isn't about writing the "best" fic. It's about building friendships, encouraging each other, and remembering why we fell in love with writing in the first place.

We're so excited to see what everyone creates.

Happy writing! 🫶🏒🔥

[akirasstories]

super excited for this!! stay tuned for more information soon 🤫🏆

[peppermintquartz]

[your-cab-is-definitely-here]

I'm sure this point has been made already but Adam from The Shots You Take really feels like a there-but-for-the-grace-of-god Shane Hollander. It's Shane if Rose had been less perceptive and compassionate, Shane who would have sacrificed his happiness at the altar of heteronormativity, gained the adulation of the world and ruthlessly strangled every last vestige of his true self. Seeing Shane in Adam really lent another dimension to my read of TSYT and made the whole thing even more tragic with the what-if of Adam and Riley's story literally being Shane and Ilya.

Riley is also a good, albeit not perfect, reflection of Ilya despite the obvious commonality of their mental health struggles. I think Ilya would have self-destructed in very different ways, and the huge difference of just the sheer size and depth of Riley's support system changes his trajectory pretty comprehensively, I think. The other big difference, no offence to Riley, is Ilya's sheer brilliance at hockey--it would have been a much bigger loss, I think, for Ilya to have walked away, and it would have hurt Shane much, much more. Which makes the what-if angle all the more poignant, to me!

There's even some shades of commonality in their sexual dynamic and the whole thing really did make me wonder if this was RR intentionally exploring this divergent path of Shane and Ilya's relationship, and if so it was intriguingly done.

[fractally]

To be clear I think it’s fine to criticize RR’s books or writing or not like TLG or whatever. Who cares. I criticize shit all the time

What I’m pushing back against is how intensely personal and parasocial this fandom is towards Rachel Reid. Instead of “I don’t like how the issues of eating disorders are portrayed in TLG” it’s “RACHEL REID HATES SHANE AND HATES PEOPLE WITH EATING DISORDERS”

Like guys. Calm down. Let’s just like. All chill about the hockey porn I guess

[snowsmoked]

Shane riding Ilya and Ilya getting lost in the rhythm until he subconsciously notices the pattern.

10-pause-10-pause-10-long pause, lean down to kiss-10-pause-10-pause-10.

“Are you…” Ilya said incredulously. “Are doing reps right now?!”

[snowsmoked]

Shane notices that Ilya always has to be doing something. At first, he thinks its sweet, attentive.

"Is your blanket warm enough? I'll go get another one."

"I will carry plates, go sit."

"Practice is optional for players, Shane, not captain."

And, look, Shane isn't one to lay about. He's up for morning runs, he attends almost every optional practice, he's meticulous about his work out routines. He's a top athlete and so is Ilya, they both work incredibly hard to stay at the top. Still, Shane doesn't have a problem with a lazy afternoon reading in bed, or a free weekend spent at his cottage, or a summer relaxing.

He notices that sometimes Ilya will startle, just a little bit, if Shane walks into the room when he's laying on the couch, scrolling through his phone. If Shane makes even the slightest request, Ilya is jumping to get it done there and then. He's the first one at practice and the last one to leave.

He will take naps with Shane, but he's always up before Shane, working out in the gym, doing their monthly calendar, adding things Shane likes to their shopping list that he wouldn't add, etc.

"Just sit with me," Shane catches Ilya's arm on his latest trip to the kitchen."

"I know, I will," Ilya covers his hand. "I just want to wipe down counters before your parents get here."

"They won't care," Shane scrunches up his face. "They won't even notice. Come sit down."

"Okay," Ilya says, but looks a little torn. "We are suppose to be hosting, not lazing around."

"Ilya," Shane sat up more. "You cleaned the whole house like twice today. I cooked. We aren't lazing around."

"Yes, I know, but..."

"Ilya, you aren't lazy," Shane said directly. He doesn't know exactly why that word seems difficult for Ilya, but he has his suspicions. "And even if you were lazy sometimes, I wouldn't care. I would like it, probably."

Ilya softened. "I know. I'm sorry."

"Don't be sorry," Shane tugs him and Ilya finally lets himself be pulled into Shane's lap. "Just come be lazy with me."

"Hm," Ilya adjusts himself to better snuggle into his boyfriend. "That does not sound so bad."

[dailyshanehollander]

HUDSON WILLIAMS as SHANE HOLLANDER HEATED RIVALRY - 1x04

[radialarch]

i've talked before about why i think using LLMs to generate creative text entirely misses the joy of the process, but we're looking at the other side of it now. some disjointed thoughts as a reader in fandom:

i am not particularly interested in reading fanfiction generated by an LLM. this is because i am in fandom to read fic that engages interestingly with a canon i love, and an LLM definitionally cannot do this. there are also human-written fic that do not do this! this is not a unique quality of LLM-generated text. "there are fics not to my taste" was a problem long before LLMs entered the picture.

what is new is the scale. the quantity of text an LLM can produce will always outstrip what humans can write by orders of magnitude. maybe this is a problem. readers don't have infinite time -- what's the sustainability of backbuttoning from fics i don't find engaging for one reason or another, if the scale is so dramatically tipped to one side? i genuinely, deeply adore discovering fics with a unique voice or an unexpected perspective, but how much harder is that going to be to find as the volume of fics to sift through grows ever larger?

on the other hand: my preferences are not everyone's preferences. people clearly do read LLM-generated text, and like it.

i've generally found the morality dimension to this discourse somewhat unproductive because my question is always: how does an action materially lead to changes you want to see? and i don't think it's helpful to say, if you use a tool that is widely available then you are a bad person. famously this is not a tactic that makes people eagerly change their ways.

(i am always thinking about daryl davis, a Black man who deradicalized ku klux klan members by actively choosing to have conversations with them. i am thinking about how a child of the founder of stormfront disavowed the movement because of extensive discussion over shabbat dinners. people find it hard to be wrong. to change someone's mind you have to put in the work; you need to approach with empathy.)

i'm equally uninterested in saying that the problem with LLM-generated text is that it is bad. many fics are bad with no LLM involvement whatsover. probably the LLMs will get better, since a lot of money is being invested into the effort. but if you frame the conversation as, LLM-generated text is bad, and therefore liking it means you have bad taste, or you are a fool, or, or. again, what is the end goal here? what happens is that people get defensive. people say, i liked this thing i read, and therefore it is good, and therefore it can't be machine-produced. reading is an active act between the reader and the text -- people aren't wrong for bringing themselves to that conversation, regardless of the source. we can't make not recognizing LLM usage a moral failing.

on a third hand: claude has a voice. gemini has a voice. chatgpt has a voice. much as human writers have tics or an oft-used turn of phrase, these tools do, too. i say this not because i am seeking to identify specific texts as LLM-generated, but because i care about the effects in aggregate.

fandom is not the first space i wrote in, but it's one where i've written consistently, often badly, and over time developed a voice i feel confident about. i really think that's valuable and worth preserving. but the increasing volume of LLM-generated text makes this harder for someone who is just starting to write today. how do you develop your own voice when everything around you sounds the same? the first step to learning something is mimicry, but to build on that you need diversity.

and on the grand scale of things, this is a small thing. even pre-LLMs, there was the One Popular Fic that spawned a thousand copycats. there are books to read from all of human history. writers will write, in the end. but learning how to write is something dear to my heart, and it's harder now, i think. that feels like we've lost something.

[aslongasitsblack]

my most controversial hr opinions is i think shane would actually be the fun parent and i also believe that it is not obvious to the general in universe public that ilya tops and shane bottoms

[ilyapasta]

A pretty good day with Shane Hollander on the Ottawa Centaurs: he's slapping your back and telling you you'll get 'em next time (the form is there, you just gotta get the reps in), he's complimenting your stick taping technique, he's giving you specific feedback on what you did well so you can replicate it, he's punching the air when you score a goal, he's saying "Fuck that was pretty, fuck yes, that's hockey, boys," he's having one to two (1-2) Molsons in the bottle out at Monks later, he's walking around with his arm around Rozanov's waist and gesturing wildly while he gushes about the power play, he's slapping the table and saying "this is what I'm SAYING" when you make a good point about Philadelphia's defense, and most importantly he's on cloud nine, practically snarling and shaking Rozanov's shoulder and saying crazy shit like— "We're going to the playoffs baby, we're going all the way. Don't give me that superstitious crap, this team can get it!"

[grabmyboner]

shane thinks ilya has gone for a run and won’t be back for ages but he’s so hard so he’s like ah i’ll just rub one out for relief yknow so he unlocks his phone and the zillow app is still open he changes to youtube and searches for ilya rozanov fights and he’d never tell ilya he does this but it’s what gets him off the fastest anyways he’s a minute in and hard as a rock and he’s just laying in his and ilya’s bed jacking it and doesn’t notice ilya walk into the room until hes at the foot of the bed staring with eyebrows raised and a smile and shane fumbles to close out the video of ilya fighting and it just opens the zillow app instead and ilya saunters over and subtly peeks at the phone and sees the zillow homepage and thinks that his husband was masturbating to realestate listings but doesn’t say anything just goes “don’t mind me im just gonna have a shower” and then shane is so mortified that his boner is gone. for the next week ilya puts on realestate shows on their tv while they’re having sex and shane is so confused why and eventually brings it up and ilya is like “i do not want to kink shame u are my husband i will support u however you need even if you get aroused by architecture” and shane is like “what the fuck are you talking about” and ilya is like “when i caught u jacking off the other day to zillow listings” and shane is so embarrassed and has to explain “no i was jacking off to videos of you fighting i didn’t want u to see so i closed it fast and the zillow app was the next app open!” and ilya is like “oh thank god”

[gurlsrool]

I just can’t even understand using AI to write fic. I can’t. Fic is entirely optional. I write it for the joy of writing it, not just to slapdash post a finished product. And the finished product is only satisfying because I wrote it! Me! Not a robot!!

I have a lot of weird and bad feelings rn but ultimately the thing I can say most succinctly is that art without humanity isn’t art. And the struggle of writing, smoothing over road blocks, filling in plot holes, fiddling with the sentences you can’t quite nail have always been the point. That. Not the shiny product and kudos at the end. The process is the point. The love you have for the characters and the craft is the point! Without it, why are we even here?

[clytemnestraaa]

i am still not being understood. “oh hayden sucks and it’s nice when fic has him confront that and try harder” no. that’s also not it. what i am saying is he lacks the self awareness to see that he sucks because nobody in his life ever has or ever will call him on it. he’s not out here realizing that he’s been a bad friend to shane and he’s not out here wondering about jackie’s inner world and he’s not out here reflecting on the gender roles he is teaching his children.

you know how sometimes you meet men and it’s very apparent that they have never once ever asked themself why someone else is doing what they are doing? like they’ve never attempted to imagine anyone else’s headspace and it’s never even occurred to them to imagine this. the interiority and lives and motivations of others are completely absent from their experience of the world. it is not so much an intentional failure as a complete and total lack, something never taught or developed. it has never occurred to them that other people are people.

you have met this man. he is your friend’s boyfriend and you sat there in her living room asking him questions about xbox games or the economy because she loves this man and so you want to know him and love him too as an extension of loving her. and he provides one word answers because for all you are trying to know him as an extension of your love for your friend, he does not feel the same way about you or about her. he is uninterested in knowing people. it has never occurred to him that there are people to know. it has never occurred to him that there is a precious web of human connection he is missing. you are furniture. he does not ask you a single question.

that’s hayden pike.

[hudshanes]

was wondering why we call scott and kip "skip" instead of using their last names like we do for hollanov and then i realized it's because the alternative is grunter