ilya being 35 and exclaiming ‘before 20 i had done coke off my best friends ass, now i cannot have black tea with jam past 3pm or i won’t fucking sleep’ and shane says ‘before 20 you did what’
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ilya being 35 and exclaiming ‘before 20 i had done coke off my best friends ass, now i cannot have black tea with jam past 3pm or i won’t fucking sleep’ and shane says ‘before 20 you did what’
Shane laughed, which made Ilya’s heart race. What if he’d never heard Shane’s laugh again?
Shane and Ilya have lube hidden all over the house and you best believe their friends have unofficial group therapy over group chats about it.
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"So...uh..."
David Hollander is so similar to Shane, Ilya wants to scream about it. His awkwardness, his inability to make small talk, the way his lips twitch and his nose wrinkles when he's not sure what to do with himself...the whole thing floods him with such unavoidable fondness that he can't even find words.
It sure makes the whole 'your father is boring' bit hit him in the gut a little.
They both sit at the table for a moment, struggling for what to say. Of course, they speak at once.
"Your home is...lovely."
"Do your parents know?"
It's even more awkward than before.
"I..." David clears his throat. "Thanks. I wish I could take credit, but Yuna does all the decorating and all that. I do the outside."
Ilya nods, because that makes sense based on what he knows of them. "The outside looks nice, too. Um. No. My parents...they do not know. They are..." There's no way to sugarcoat it, and really David seems like the type of guy to want information like this given to him straight. "They are both dead."
The older man's eyes widen. "Wow. I'm sorry to hear that."
"Thank you." He's not sure what makes him say the next part–maybe the alcohol? "Is probably better. That my father is dead at least," he gives a little, humorless laugh. "He would not be so understanding like you and Mrs. Hollander. He would...if he had walked in like you did? It would be...what do you say? Different story."
It's supposed to be a joke. Something lighthearted, to shift the mood and express his thanks that David and Yuna have been so incredibly accepting of them, of him.
But David's eyes immediately flash with an emotion Ilya can't place. "What?"
He smiles a rueful smile. "Is nothing. Just...he was...strict. Is all. Would definitely punish me for this. Call me a disappointment."
Then, Ilya figures it out. Protectiveness. That's what it is. David Hollander is clenching his fists and gritting his teeth, looking like one of Ilya's teammates, about to drop gloves. His face is full of indignation and rage, and his body is rigid.
On Ilya's behalf.
Ilya suddenly wants to cry.
"Well," the older man says simply, sniffing a little. "If I may say, Ro--Ilya. You were pretty damn brave, walking in here with Shane just now. You don't seem like a disappointment to me."
And Ilya has to look down, blinking away tears, as David's fierce approval washes over him like a warm wave. "Thank you, Mr. Hollander," he murmurs.
"David."
"Yes. David."
“I can’t believe when I read the books and found out Scott Hunter is only three years older than Shane and Ilya!”
Okay, but Scott Hunter is CLEARLY intended to be older in the show than in the books?
-He was played by a 39 year old actor.
-They added the scene during the NHL Awards in 2011 where Scott congratulates Shane on being Rookie of the Year. In it Shane calls him ‘Mr Hunter’ & is flustered in the way you would talk to someone you’ve admired for a relatively long time, not someone only three years older. Scott also self deprecatingly refers to himself as an ‘old fuck’.
-in the fight between them in 2013, Shane yells at Scott that he’s “45 years old”. That’s clearly an exaggeration, but while Ilya is a troll who might say that to a 25 year old who is only three years older than him, I don’t think Shane would use hyperbole to that great an extent.
-Scott meets Kip in 2013, instead of 2016 like in the book, making him at MINIMUM six years older than Shane and Ilya, if the rest of the timeline stays the same. In the same episode he is also at point in his career when he’s in a slump, describes the current season as one he ‘needs to win’ to prove himself, and sports commentators are already trying to imply he’s washed up.
Book canon is not always the same as show canon, and that's okay.
for the rest of his life carter vaughn assumes everyone around him is a closeted gay person just so he never has to be the only one running his mouth about allyship at the fag table in the russian ice cream shop again. people try to tell him this is NOT progressive but it's not about that.
Shane texting Ilya “send a video of you cuming with sound on” and Ilya texting back “oh hi good morning to you too, I miss you as well my sweet husband?” And Shane texting back “are you going to send it?”
a selection of photos taken by other people from their first year of marriage:
towards the end of their wedding reception, sun setting, looking rumpled and tired, Ilya kissing Shane's palm while Shane is very seriously talking to Scott Hunter
the two of them with a fan, taken at the dog park, Ilya holding Anya and Shane with one arm around his husband's shoulder and the other trying to prevent Anya from licking the fan's face
Shane Hollander sitting on the Centaurs bench with blood on his face, mouth wide open, Ilya Rozanov gripping his chin and glaring at the gap where Shane's bottom canine used to be
Ilya Rozanov with his fist in the air after a goal, a smear of red in the corner of his mouth
sitting next to each other at team tape review, heads bent together, Ilya's hand on Shane's thigh, Shane's hands sketching out a play in the air
Ilya Rozanov leaning against his car in the airport arrivals line, a coffee in one hand and a forest-green smoothie in the other
Shane Hollander giving his husband the middle finger after losing the shot accuracy competition at ASG by half a second
piggyback racing across the yard with a Pike twin each clinging to their necks
Ilya Rozanov, outraged, with a face full of snow, as his husband doubles over with laughter
wearing identical blank expressions the seventeenth time a journalist asks about their "off-ice chemistry"
Shane Hollander throwing his head back and cackling in a booth at a random dive bar in a random city, Ilya Rozanov grinning into his drink
asleep on the team bus after game 5 of the conference finals, Ilya curled into Shane's shoulder
Centaurs WAGs filming those "seeing if my husband can catch me in a foot pursuit" videos, and not to be outdone, Ilya talks Shane into participating in the trend.
Of course it's much harder for Ilya to catch up to Shane because they're both athletes so instead of a ten second headstart, Ilya only gives him two seconds. Shane still gets really far before Ilya catches up to him.
However, the moment he does, and Shane feels him come closer, hears his footsteps and his breathing and eventually feels Ilya trying to physically catch him, Shane, with the momentum of a sledgehammer, discovers a new kink 🙃
Average reaction to Shane when they get outed: Rosanov?? Damn man. You sure? No Im sure he's great its just-
Average reaction to Ilya when they get outed: HOLLANDER?? FUCKING HOLLANDER?? How the fuck did you pull him. Man, I'd be gay for Shane Hollander, most people would be. Man how the fuck did you pull that off Rozy?
Marly(probably): generational pull brother
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i know Jackie Pike makes an absolutely lethal red sangria
Ilya after 1 Jackie Sangria: Wow this tastes like juice jackie haha!
Ilya after 4 Jackie Sangrias:
Shane (also 4 Jackie Sangrias deep): Hey. Hey. put the marriage certificate in the drawer tonigh because we are going to have premarital later. I am going to have premarital sex with my husband Tonight. Because i said it works like that Hayden. I can do whatever I want.
One thing I’ve seen happens in this fandom- and honestly sometimes in real life discussions about Hudson too- is that people end up flattening all POC experiences into one universal experience.
Race absolutely matters. Racism absolutely exists. But different racial groups are stereotyped in different ways, and those stereotypes can produce completely different social expectations.
For example, I’ve seen people criticize Rachel and Jacob for joking about Hudson being unintelligent because he’s a person of color. If Hudson were Black, I would understand that criticism more, because there is a long history of anti-Black stereotypes portraying Black people as unintelligent. But Hudson is Asian. Asian men are stereotyped in almost the opposite way. They’re often assumed to be intelligent, studious, and academically successful. The stereotype is still racist, but it’s a different stereotype. It doesn’t suddenly become an anti-Asian stereotype just because we’ve replaced “Asian” with the broader category of “POC.”
The same thing happens constantly in fanfiction with Shane.
A lot of writers portray Shane as being afraid to fight because he knows he’ll be judged more harshly than white players. I understand where that idea is coming from, but as a black person I’ve never found it particularly convincing.
If Shane were black, that analysis would make more sense to me. Black men are often stereotyped as aggressive, which means behavior that is considered acceptable from white athletes is often interpreted differently when black ones do it.
But asian men occupy a very different place in the racial imagination. They’re frequently stereotyped as passive, non-threatening, weak, nerdy, emasculated, etc. If racial stereotypes were influencing Shane’s approach to hockey, I could just as easily imagine the opposite dynamic: feeling pressure to prove he’s aggressive enough to belong. Maybe he’s fighting TOO much.
But that doesn’t make sense for Shane. He’s the league’s golden boy. He’s polite, media-friendly, and heavily inspired by Sidney Crosby. He’s a superstar. Fighting is often delegated to players lower on the depth chart whose role is specifically to provide physicality. Star players generally aren’t expected to be enforcers. Teams usually want their elite talent scoring goals, not sitting in the penalty box after dropping the gloves.
So Shane not fighting much doesn’t strike me as evidence of racial pressure. It strikes me as evidence that he’s Shane Hollander.
Crosby is a useful comparison here. For years, people mocked him for not being physical enough (and for talking to the refs too much). They questioned his toughness and masculinity. They called him “Crybaby Crosby” or “Cindy Crosby.” Fans edited photos of him in dresses or makeup. The criticism wasn’t really about hockey. The joke was that he wasn’t a “real man.”
And that’s a white player.
Imagine how much worse those conversations could become if the player in question were Asian.
That’s the kind of racial dynamic I could actually see affecting Shane, not him worrying about people thinking he’s too aggressive, but people questioning whether he’s aggressive ENOUGH.
There’s a good chance that if Shane fought exactly like many white players, he probably still wouldn’t be viewed as tough enough. Meanwhile, if a Black player fought exactly like those same white players, he might be interpreted as more aggressive.
People often criticize Rachel for not doing much racial analysis in the books. But sometimes fandom fills that gap with racial analysis that feels disconnected from both hockey culture and the specific stereotypes that affect different racial groups.
Not every POC experience is interchangeable.
A stereotype that affects Black athletes is not automatically a stereotype that affects Asian athletes. A stereotype that affects Latino athletes is not automatically a stereotype that affects Indigenous athletes.
If we’re going to talk about race- and we should- we have to talk about the actual racial dynamics at play, not just substitute “person of color” for a more specific analysis.
Sometimes no racial analysis is better than bad racial analysis.
you hate to see that happen.. it looked like a clean hit, hollander just- oh shit is he doing the worm?
I think at some point Ilya’s therapist gets concerned by what seems to be a codependent and anxious attachment btw Ilya and Shane. When Shane the Doer hears about it, For the sake of his husband’s mental health’s improvement and the preservation of a healthy marriage, he convinces Ilya to try installing boundaries and do activities separately. It lasts a week before Ilya comes home sobbing from a video game session with Troy communicating that if they keep this boundary thing up he’ll need to switch his meds’ dosage because he’s miserable. Shane jumps from the couch he’s been sitting on for 40minutes because he was supposed to eat diner with rose but he kept wanting to make jokes and look at ilya to see him laugh but he wasn’t there and it SUCKED OMG and Shane starts sobbing too because if they keep this up he will have to get on his own meds and let’s never do this again I hate it when I can’t smell you near me
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