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people keep mentioning that Jacob didn’t want to come back or was apprehensive about it and I’ve searching for ages but is there a link or an interview where I can read up more on that? xx
i unfortunately don't have links, but i'm pretty sure it was said in the couple of video interviews. i think he always expressed it light-heartedly/jokingly. i only remember in particular that he said he was apprehensive about louis' storyline in entertainment weekly cover for tvl.
i'm posting it in hopes that someone will share the correct links to interviews or clips where he said something along those lines!
🗣️“I don’t think there is, Rolin.”
“I agreed to make a deal with Wen Ke Xing because I wanted to stab you in the back during your proudest moment just to prove to you that I get to decide whether to overthrow you or not, and how!” Li Dai Kun As Xie Wang. WORD OF HONOR (2021) - Episode 34.
You get to modern times and suddenly sect meetings become shitawful group projects smh
I don’t know if the writers intended this or they just wanted to remove lesmand from the story for their loustat endgame bs and in doing so removing one of the core parts of tvl the book, but the orientalist implications of tvl!lestat hating armand for no reason and fully blaming him for everything he himself took part in (nicki’s death, the trial) and armand being nothing to him but a sexual object (he wasnt even considered as one of his meaningful relationships but we get multiple mentions from nicki of them fucking everywhere around paris) while he simultaneously portrays him as desperate, bad in bed, and pathetic for being submissive as he sexually degrades him at every turn? how does this make lestat look like anything but a racist piece of shit? I mean more than he usually is. they could’ve explored lestat’s orientalism but having nothing that challenges it and removing any love lestat has for armand makes it so hollow
queer people who think it's totally fine that tvl have almost no queer intimacy on screen should rethink their life and get away from the fandom for a bit. no one fucking watched iwtv for steamy gay sex, it was like 2 minutes of 13 hours. it may sound shocking, but some queer people actually care about depiction of queerness on screen, in all forms. meanwhile you're actively supporting censorship because you're afraid to criticize a fucking tv show.
rolin loves unreliable narrators, because he's the biggest unreliable narrator. we should all stop listening to him. burn down tvl (2026) and move on.
like, i'm serious. i think i finally had a revelation and i already said it in the comments to ash's post, but i think rolin is going through very difficult artistic crisis right now, and he obviously had some disagreements with other writers in iwtv and maybe felt pressured by amc, so he's basically taking out his frustrations on actors and fans of the show. like a lot of toxic men do.
he's not exactly trolling, but he's clearly voicing his ideas that were discussed in iwtv s1&2 writers' room but were dismissed for the lack of complexity and/or because they'd trap the writers in a corner and they were smart enough to avoid it.
he expressed some of this in tvl where he had most of creative control. it became obvious to me after "two lies" line by armand: this is something rolin said back in 2024 and he said it was "his interpretation" that a lot of people in the writers' room disagreed with. but he was putting it in a character's mouth now because he could. and he's trying to word-of-god a lot of stuff now in the interviews.
he's unravelling and he can't get over how little narrative control he had in s1&2 because there was a pushback by the writers and directors who tried to make a good story and then there was amc who tried to control the narrative as well. like many men who feel powerless, he's taking it out on everyone who supported or loved his work.
For your consideration:
him
Propaganda:
Traumatised (unaware)
Daddy issues dialled up to 1000
Loose canon on a tight leash
An adult with the motivations of a starving child
So much of a people (one specific person, really) pleaser that he became the second most successful assassin alive
Killed a guy bc he said ‘what’re you gonna do, kill me?’
In severe need of physiological help
Just wants to be loved
Need him under a microscope 👏STAT👏
okay, the question of "why tf does lestat hate armand so much then?" aside, why tf is armand supposedly obsessed with lestat in the show? what "dynamic personality" did he talk about in that fuckass apology later? the man sat on his ass at home for 30 years doing fuck all, had a brief stint as an actor (because nicki got him a job) before magnus abducted and turned him, and then seemingly went straight back to being pushed around by mommy immediately after turning her.
what "dynamic personality"???
and yeah, the way he broke up armand's coven in 2x3 was really hot and sexy of him, but we're supposed to question what we were told in S1-S2, aren't we? especially if it's armand's retelling of events. and with the way S3 portrayed lestat, that's the part of armand's story i'm most inclined to discard as fanfiction lmao
Rolin suddenly saying that he doesn't think that Claudia screaming for Louis at the trial really happened is just absolutely vile and also makes no sense. It most definitely wasn't played as fake in any way in s2. This has no other purpose than try to destroy the complexity and love the characters and their relationship had. It's pure spite and loathing. Him insisting that it all 'honestly' starts from the love for Jacob and Delainey is completely unconvincing. He has no care or respect for the actors or their characters and he detests that people cared about Louis' and Claudia's relationship so much
who up rolin they joints (@guyanatole's idea)
ngl kinda ironic to be getting actual jassad promo content after the season that was only interested in using loumand for cheap shock value. as opposed to the season where they were co-leads with a complex and compelling dynamic.
drawing shit I took screenshot of in dvawtk until I get my copy of book one, day 23
It's just so funny to me that Yin Hanjiang's sword has more self preservation instinct than he does
Also, I had intended to continue this until I got the book, but at this point I'm reaching parts of the novel that are pretty spoilers heavy, so I'm hesitating. Part of why I started doing this was to trick people into wanting to read dvawtk, so I don't want to reveal too much...
[edit] well the question became pointless because the book finally arrived today, just in time! XD
novel excerpt under cut
NYT posted a scathing review of TVL. Oddly didn’t address the anti-black elements but it’s the first reputable review we have that doesn’t seem bought. The comments are seething lol (they truly think this season was a good adaptation). Anyways here’s to more critics finally putting on their adult pants and actually calling out the show.
link to the article
Shen Qingqiu: It's so weird that you're looking for a Shen Yuan of your own, especially since you've never been with a guy before
Luo Bingge: Yes I have? I've fucked my general plenty of times
Shen Qingqiu: WHAT?!
Shen Qingqiu, to Shang Qinghua: WHAT?!?!
Shang Qinghua: Oh yeah, I wrote an extra where Bing-ge and my king got down and dirty. I didn't post it obviously, my homophobic fans would riot
Shen Qingqiu: Are you telling me that there is a piece of PIDW THAT I DIDN'T READ?!
Shang Qinghua: THAT IS WHERE YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AT?!
You just know that SQQ after a moment of crisis would double down and demand to know if there was anything ELSE he perhaps failed to publish. The uneasy laughter, the intensity. The TEARS.
SQH: The goal wasn't to have to rewrite several chapters of things I already wrote bro!
LBG: Should I perhaps mention-
SQQ: Make a list.