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Let me describe to you what kind of world gender abolitionists actually dream about:

When a child would be born it’s biological sex, being an actual physical reality, would be noticed but not a single assumption regarding the child’s personality would be made based on it.

Growing up, children would be free to chose what toys and clothes they prefer. If they want to play with toy trucks or dolls, it would be fine either way. If they want to dress comfortably or in frilly colorful dresses, it would be fine.

Certain personality traits would not be encouraged in members of one sex and discouraged in the other. Females would be free to be strong, brave and assertive and males would not be shamed for being shy and soft spoken.

No female child would be called a tomboy and no male child would be called a sissy. No kid would ever be bullied for what we in our gendered world call “gender expression”.

When children would reach puberty they would still be free to dress how they want. Females would not be pressured to wear clothes that reveal their bodies and males would not be shamed if they chose to. Everybody would have a free choice of accessories, which would not be categorized as “men’s” or “women’s” but people could should whichever they liked. Or chose to not wear accessories at all if that’s what they are more comfortable with.

Females would not be pressured to keep their bodies slim, soft and hairless. Males would not be pressured to be athletic and muscular. Expectations of femininity and masculinity upon the body would not exist and affect negatively people’s relationship with their own body.

Everyone could choose a career without fearing stigmatization within that particular field because of their biological sex. The most important thing would be competence and not what someone has between their legs.

Domestic work would not be considered “women’s work” and would be shared equally between the sexes.

Biological sex would only be thought about when relevant. And everyone would be free to be themselves without ever having to worry about gender expectations. Nobody would feel the need to repress certain parts of their personality and exaggerate others in order to fit into some gender role that is being forced on them.

Gender abolitionism is not about restricting people’s choices but about giving them greater freedom.

- http://burningax.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/a-gender-free-world-boring/

proud-homosexual-woman-deactiva

Yes that’s it!

sbaliosa

The notes on this post are pretty interesting, but here’s my input as a trans girl:

Some of this sounds great. Don’t force certain personality or behavior on kids. Don’t pressure people to maintain a specific physique.

Some of it sounds like absolute hell. I cope with my gender dysphoria by doing things that are generally considered feminine. I want to dress a certain way because that style of dress is feminine. I use GENDER EXPRESSION to EXPRESS my GENDER, because if I don’t - or in this supposedly perfect world - I CAN’T, then my dysphoria goes off the wall with no gender euphoria to offset it.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with having gender tied to certain elements of self-expression. The problem is not that male and female things exist - it’s that current social norms enforce those concepts too strictly. Men can enjoy feminine things; that certainly does not mean the PERSON is feminine, but the THING he enjoys can still be considered as such.

Gender “norms” allow people to identify ourselves and each other. My entire life revolves around this. My happiness revolves around identifying myself as woman, and part of that includes having others also identify me as a woman. In a world where gender and gender norms do not exist, my identity and sense of self also cease to exist.

Honestly, living in a world like that sounds even worse.

marxism-himboism-deactivated202

What you’re effectively saying is that you want your life and purpose to be dictated not by your own interests as a free person, but by some feminine ideal. An ideal which cannot exist independently of oppressive sex-based stereotypes and a hetero-patriarchal power structure. That’s insane. I know you’re a sissification/forced-feminization enthusiast, based on the content of your side blog. It’s obvious that your views on this matter and your perception of reality have been perverted by that fetish, so I’m going to suggest that you seek help for porn addiction.

chadradfem

Some people… use misogyny… to cope???

Just admit you hate women and go.

omnivore-odyssey

This is why we say certain trans activists perspectives and goals are anti feminist and incompatible with female liberation.

We are not stopping you from being who you want to be; you are stopping us from dismantling our sex-based oppression.

If the goal of trans and non binary people is to maintain gender and therefore female oppression and male supremacy, just so that their identities are validated, then they are choosing to stand directly in the way of feminist goals and female liberation from sex based oppression.

If MY chains must remain in place so that your self expression can be “validated,” then YOU are standing in the way of my liberation.

I will NOT sacrifice my safety and freedom for your validation.

starinyourhand

Despite the nauseating response to this post by mra’s and transwomen, I know at least 3 women that were peaked by the astoundingly, thoughtlessly selfish, self serving, unempathetic response of someone born male at birth, who enjoyed all of the privileges therein, telling women, girls and transmen that it didn’t really matter that all of us suffer under sex based oppression from birth, because what really matters to him, is that the world sees him as a submissive, decorative object. It’s rare for them to actually come out and say it, but this post was responsible for at least 3 women peaking that I’m aware of personally. Listen to transwomen, and they will tell you exactly how sexist they really are.

omnivore-odyssey

Since this post has crossed my dash again, I would like to take the time to reiterate and clarify exactly what my response to the initial post means.

Gender, the idea that there are things that are masculine and things that are feminine, is just another way of saying sex stereotypes. Sex stereotypes exist to reinforce male supremacy and female subordination.

There is literally no reason other than reinforcing oppression to associate stereotypes with either sex. The concepts of masculinity and femininity were only invented to serve the purpose of reinforcing male supremacy and reinforcing female subordination. These stereotypes are harmful to those who fit decently within them and even more to those who don’t (which includes trans people, among others).

If there is a group of trans activists that is claiming that dismantling these sex stereotypes is harmful to them because then they won’t be able to use the markers of sex stereotypes to demonstrate their gender identity, then they are in fact reinforcing those stereotypes and therefore reinforcing male supremacy and female subordination.

This is anti feminist and actively works against female liberation and the liberation of all people from oppressive sex stereotypes.

Supporting sex stereotypes is supporting male supremacy and female oppression.

divinedionne

This thread perfectly sums up how trans theories of gender EXPLICITLY DEPEND ON sex stereotypes and women’s oppression.

Everyone enjoying freedom and humanity would destroy sex stereotypes and therefore the entire structure of trans identities.

Trans theories of sex and gender are inherently patriarchy supporting and anti feminist. Which is why women fighting to be seen as human rather than as a set ideas or a role is considered offensive to them.

p0pipos

this is so fascinating to me. he admits his life revolves around gender stereotypes and that his happiness depends on other people playing along.

how is that any way to live?

sunandsteel99

In a perfect world males would have all their limbs removed at the hips and shoulders and any that weren’t kept as pets would be left to roll around outside like tumbleweeds

#real asf

quakerjoe

tlaquetzqui

The actual Tolkien quote is “The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own.”

im-not-here-achitchuchaly

eepy mourning dove cupping its wings under its belly for cushion ©Ella

#animals

godlessondheimite

In 2026, the chicest thing a gay actor can do is never explicitly come out as gay but also make it abundantly clear that he is. Coming out is too modern. Staying closeted is too old fashioned. But this method merges contemporary freedom with Old Hollywood glamour and allure, and it weeds out the dumbest people who truly don’t get it. I call it the Pascal Method.

nobodys-odyssey

Taylor Swift does this

godlessondheimite

no she doesn’t

nobodys-odyssey

You clearly don't go here or to queer history and signaling, or both, enough to have this conversation and I'm not going to explain it to you. You could have asked questions, you could have done even a modicum of research. You didn't and you made yourself look ignorant. Goodbye.

pjackk

Dont be very woried about me since i deserve all of this

itdoobielikethat

cuunos

jellyfish lifecycles piss me off a little bit

cuunos

you don't have to do that. you can just not do that

eddieintheocean

:D they can do more :D (x)

#animals

yapoholics-anonymous

if, for society to continue on, women must be subjugated, then it is not "humanity" that benefits. it's is men.

if women are required/forced to be: pregnant, or subservient to men, to allow for a "family structure" and a birth rate that allows for the continuation of society, then this subjugation does not benefit all of humanity; it benefits men at the direct expense of women.