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And I’d Give Up Forever to Touch You (‘Cause I Know That You Feel Me Somehow)

My Mileven fic is now finished and all the chapters are up!

Title: And I’d Give Up Forever to Touch You (‘Cause I Know That You Feel Me Somehow)

Author: DeLoreanFlight

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Fandom: Stranger Things (TV 2016)

Relationships: Eleven | Jane Hopper/Mike Wheeler

Summary: Life works in crazy ways. It’s been eleven years since Mike Wheeler lost the love of his life. He would have never expected to find her at the presentation of his new book in a small city in Iceland; but now, the world is giving him a third chance, and he is not going to waste it.

#mileven #eleven #mike wheeler #jane hopper #eleven hopper #fix it fic #iceland mileven #pro mileven

strangertheory

Still grieving the revelation that the story I had been waiting eagerly to come to a meaningful, powerful close after ten years, which was allegedly written for the outcasts and freaks, ended with the girl who believed that she did not belong anywhere actually killing herself.

milevenspromise

There’s just no way that Mike didn’t immediately start trying to contact El and calling her like he did in s2 once he was alone after the dnd game in the finale. Idc what the duffers or anyone else says, we know from watching his character the entire show that there’s no way Mike “I never gave up on you” Wheeler would ever let go of having a future with El if he believed there was any chance she was alive. Reuniting with her is all he’d be able to imagine and he would spring into action to try to make it happen. Especially when he regretted not having more of a plan to run away with her before, he’d certainly be coming up with more of a plan this time to find a way to make it safe for them to be together. He would not just do nothing and move on.

Like am I really supposed to believe that just because he went to graduation and played dnd with his friends that that means he’s moving on from El? Am I supposed to believe that, after grieving her for a year and a half, that one conversation with Hopper was all it took for Mike to be fine to start moving on? I could see him going to graduation more for everyone else’s sake, especially when Hopper told him his mom was worried about him and gave him a whole speech to try to help him. And maybe Hopper’s speech was enough encouragement for Mike to at least push himself to go to graduation, but I just don’t see how that would’ve totally changed his mindset so suddenly to the point he was ready to accept things and carry on. And it sure doesn’t seem like he was ready to start moving on when he immediately thought of El when he heard the speakers and came up with a whole theory about how she could still be alive.

And it’s even more ridiculous to think that once he does believe that El is alive that he would just do nothing about it and accept that he could never be with her again. I have my own theory about Mike and the dnd game which makes far more sense to me, and it’s that he meant for the dnd game to be a possible goodbye to the party. Because to me, it makes total sense that, upon realizing that El could still be out there somewhere, Mike wouldn’t waste any time before trying to contact her, trying to find her, doing whatever he could to make a future with her possible. I think once he came up with his theory, he saw a path and a journey for himself to find El that he planned to go on but knew the party couldn’t know or be involved in it. Because if he told the party what he was planning to do, I think it’s likely some, if not all, of them would want to join or help him in some way. And he doesn’t know if there could be any danger, he doesn’t know how long it could take, doesn’t even know if he’ll succeed. Not to mention it could be more conspicuous and risky for all of them to be involved. I think for their safety, he would know finding El is something he’d have to do without them. So he gets them all together for the dnd game. He explains to them what he believes happened to El (which is what El asked him to do too, she told him he’d understand one day and for him to help the others understand. And that’s exactly what Mike does once he has his theory) but he doesn’t tell them anything else. He gives them an idea of what he might do in the future (probably the best case scenario of a future he’d been able to imagine for himself without El) but doesn’t include anything about him and El being together again (even though we know that would surely be his greatest hope) because the party would realize his plan to look for her. So I think his plan is something he would keep to himself until he knew it was safe for them to know. And if he planned on starting to try to contact/find El as soon as possible, of course he would want to tell the party his theory immediately and have a last dnd game with them so he could spend that time with them before starting his journey to reunite with El.

And all of this could even fit with how emotional he is after the game, putting away his binder, and leaving the basement. What if part of that was because he doesn’t know when he’ll be with the party again? Because he doesn’t know where his search for El will lead him and doesn’t know when he’ll be with all of his friends again? And it’s more of a goodbye for him than anyone realizes? I mean, from what I remember, he’s even more emotional when leaving the game and the basement behind than he is when talking about El and his theory, which would make sense if he’s feeling more emotional over leaving his friends behind for a time but hopeful when it comes to El.

Idk I just think this would make a whole lot more sense for Mike’s character than for him to just accept that El is alone somewhere and that they’re never gonna be together again and he’s just gonna go on with his life without her. There’s just no way he would do that. I think once discovering any possibility that she could be alive that he would act on it right away. And I know the duffers would say none of this was the case with Mike at the end but I really don’t care what they think or what they were trying to imply after everything they did. I prefer to imagine something that’s actually true to the characters.

thelostsisters

been thinking about how brilliant el is. she knew how to play chess at eight years old. she was able to find a way out of the lab after the gate opened despite how scared she was of all the chaos around her. she was the one who figured out the situation with heather in billy in season 3. she discovered the truth about her mother and figured out her home address and how to visit her in person with the limited world knowledge she had in season 2. she is SO smart and it’s overlooked constantly both in the show and by the fandom at large and that’s such a disservice to her as a character

lans-x

“el couldn’t even form a sentence when she got out of the lab!!” “she learned to kiss before she learned to read!!”

yeah no so her selective mutism was actually a trauma response! she could canonically play chess and read fully before she left the lab…

johnconstantius

This was one of my many problems with S4.

In S1, El barely talked, didn’t know how to tell time, and didn’t know what a promise was.

In S2, she had to be shown how to use a broom, didn’t know what a compromise was, and felt no hesitation about shoving her fingers in Dustin’s mouth because she saw he now had teeth.

In S3, she had to ask Max how she would know what she liked.

In S4, in order to service the Duffers’ plot twist about Henry Creel, El suddenly was fully fluent and even playing chess in the lab.

You could call her S1 - S3 behavior “trauma response” as per OP and hand wave it away — but in that case you better foreshadow it, of which there was exactly zero.

Or you could call it what it was: a retcon. Designed to serve the writers’ brand new direction for the story which by the way cheapened and undercut the story told previously.

Honestly this fucking show.

gokuohko

Nah, that whole retcon of the upside down all for Vecna to exist was some of the most corniest shit ever. El apparently had LOST memories, that she COULDN'T remember due to a TRAUMA response, as if her entire time within the lab wasn't a nightmare. I know there was a full rundown of El's backstory and the events that transpired at the lab as of season 5 and it's some of the craziest shit ever.

They already had the perfect explanation for the inciting incident, El was projecting across continents within the bath to spy on the USSR only to come into contact with the Demogorgan and alert the upside down of Earth's presence. They did not need to make it anymore complicated. It perfectly encapsulated the consequences of man's hubris and manages to show why El feels the whole of the blame.

johnconstantius

“…as if her entire time within the lab wasn’t a nightmare.”

This. The notion that the Henry part was the “trauma” basically takes the view that experimenting on children in a secret government lab isn’t that big of a deal. I mean, WTF.

The scene in S1 where El refuses to hurt the cat and gets dragged off to her cell was infinitely sadder and creepier than anything S4 served up.

obriy

izzzax

i need the breakfast club but it’s the fruity five (or whatever they’re called)

please see the vision i love them and this movie sm

kawa-goat

season 1 mileven, according to certain people:

Also Mileven in season 1:

it gets to a point where you can just point and laugh man😭

The more I think about it the more pissed I am at season 5. Bye.

sadlostboypuppydogthing

You know Mike was one of the only people to actually see El as human because he was the only one to ever suggest they help her. Everyone saw her for just her powers, but Mike still knew that didn't mean she never needed a hand. He created the tunnel plan for her. He suggested they help her in the finale. Everyone was talking about how El could handle it herself in s3 meanwhile Mike fought otherwise.

Everyone just assumed El could handle it all, but Mike saw a girl who was being held to a standard no child should ever have to go through

So don't even try to say he doesn't understand El. He may not personally relate to her trauma, but he understood her value as a human being and constantly fought for it when nobody else did.