frustrations: sometimes inspired works of another media have their own things to say separate from the work that may have inspired them. i think this is why the hunger games can stand on its own without necessarily knowing battle royale, despite their considerable plot overlap in terms of children in a death game setting. the criticisms of media and violence in battle royale are different than the ones in thg. compared to, say, the hunger games and divergent, where divergent has used the aesthetic and idea of the hunger games without understanding the meanings and themes or creating its own!
i don't know, i guess i'm kind of sick of hearing the the hunger games and battle royale have the same base plot, but there's more to both of the base material than just that plot, and i think it's a bit of a disservice to both to think of them like this.
its 2023 i feel like this sort of criticism of "well this media is inspired off another" is in the same boat as "well actually this movie toooootally didn't make sense because i didn't suspend my disbelief" kind of criticism
the hunger games is the ultimate example of this because it does do new things in a new cultural context different than battle royale's. THG and BR are both great works and I stand by this. the other good comparison is madoka magica in that its derived from other works, but still comes away with its new takeaway being that the perseverance of young girls despite everything will overcome odds. And Yet the derivatives of madoka in the "dark magical girl" genre tend to... miss that overarching theme of hope and center it solely on the suffering. the reason shows like magical girl raising project and magical girl site suck isn't because they're madoka derivatives, they suck because they aren't written well and don't do anything interesting with the themes presented by their predecessors, and come off more insulting by not attempting to engage with that hope-in-spite-of-it-all theme meaningfully.
cinemasins style movie criticism and "well this has a similar plot basis to something before it" aren't really all that meaningful in criticism of works in the long term and also don't hold up super well on their own























