Beings with problematic sources (including fictives and fictionkin) generally get the short end of the stick, but I feel like whatever gets thrown at fictives, gets thrown at factives (and factkin) worse.
So, I just want to remind you. You don’t have to feel bad about your source. You don’t need to source separate. You don’t need to spend your life repenting your source’s actions.
I am not my source. But, my source meant a lot to my system and my creation as a nostalgia holder reflects that. I know that there are problematic factives out there who very much are their source. You are valid too.
That being said, your source is not an excuse for bad behaviour. Sometimes, you’ll need to unlearn certain beliefs and behaviours that might stem from your source. That isn’t an attack on your source or you. It might suck at first, but trust me, it’ll be better in the long run.
Hi! Please can I request a problematic source introject flag? And if the stripes could be vertical rather than horizontal or something fun like that, that would be great. Add a dinosaur or something, have fun with it :)
Thank you
-sirius
🌈Problematic Source Introject Flag🍭
A flag for introjects who have problematic sources
…. I like the dinosaurs…. I did have fun with this …
YOU MUST INCLUDE YOUR EXACT BODY AGE. THE ASK WILL BE DELETED WITHOUT BEING POSTED IF YOU DO NOT.
"ADULT" and "MINOR" are not acceptable. Neither is an age range.
There's never enough kin/source call blogs that will do problematic sources and calls...
Please keep in mind that just because I allow it in a call, does not mean I support it. I will not elaborate on whether I support anything listed - including but not limited to: proship, transids, radqueers, complex labels, non-traumagenic systems, etc. I won't take questions about anything.
Also, sorry guys. It's very long under the cut.
What I accept in a call:
⠀⠀‣⠀kins/introjects of problematic characters
⠀⠀‣⠀kins/introjects of problematic people
⠀⠀⠀⠀―⠀meaning: irl people; YouTubers, actors, historical figures, etc.
⠀⠀‣⠀calls for relationships, interests, memories, etc. that might be "problematic"
⠀⠀⠀⠀―⠀meaning: age gaps, incestuous, toxic, abusive (just stay safe and consensual), etc.
⠀⠀‣⠀kins/introjects who use "transids" or are "radqueer"
⠀⠀‣⠀kins/introjects who identify as proship
⠀⠀‣⠀irls, kins, introjects, all identities are accepted (including those who aren't "problematic")
⠀⠀‣⠀any system origin
⠀⠀‣⠀anyone, as long as you aren't an asshole
In calls, please include:
⠀⠀―⠀name
⠀⠀―⠀age
⠀⠀―⠀age-range for responses
⠀⠀―⠀source (un-abbreviated and the full name of the person/character you are sourced from)
⠀⠀―⠀who you're sourced from (full name)
⠀⠀―⠀who you're looking for
⠀⠀―⠀how to contact you
(I will not answer a call if you don't include age and source. I will not accept "minor" or "adult", sorry. I occasionally forget this rule myself.)
Optional to include:
⠀⠀―⠀an explanation of your main memories/who you are/how connected to your source you are
⠀⠀―⠀whether you support/identify as non-traumagenic systems, proshipping, radqueers, transids, etc.
⠀⠀―⠀system origin
⠀⠀―⠀ids you identify with
⠀⠀―⠀any other information you feel is relevant
Include only one source per ask, please. There is no limit to the amount of asks you can submit. Just keep it to one source per one ask. I'll tag everything with "kin" to keep the tagging system simpler, unless you specify that you are a fictive.
⠀⠀―⠀example: #Psychocuties #Masacrik kin
Also, please wait at least a week before re-submitting a call.
Calls of systems looking for friends will be tagged as "system looking for friends". Additionally, 18+ calls will be tagged "adult calls" and -18 calls will be tagged "minor calls". (Although I frequently forget this tag).
Reminder:
⠀⠀―⠀I will not engage in any discourse. This blog was made solely to provide a safe space for anyone with a problematic source or problematic memories. And that means anyone. This is why I will not answer any questions about my own stances and beliefs. Everyone is safe here.
DNI:
⠀⠀―⠀My DNI is quite literally just don't be an asshole. Don't be a bodily adult (18 years old and over) searching for a bodily minor (under 18 years old); the reverse applies, too. Stick to your bodily age range, please (Note. This does not mean you can't be 17 and okay with 16-18 replying or something. Just keep it to your bodily age range). This DOES include "pro-contact" for the top three paraphilias. Those people will be blocked immediately.
⠀⠀―⠀I will not respond to negative speech whatsoever. I will just block the blog or delete what was said.
Before i begin if this is too discourse-y i deeply apologize and understand if you need to delete this! I don't think it should be but I'm very bad about understanding what is or isn't. /gen
Why, is it so hard for headmates who have "problematic" sources to exist in other plural spaces, whether or not the introject/headmate ids with source or not?
Hazbin hotel/helluva, Harry Potter, etc. I can understand why one may not want to make content for it, but i feel like if i make content myself for us then i feel like I'll have people try to cancel me or bully me. When i already know its problematic and no way do i support the creators.
It just feels like now days people aren't allowed to like/enjoy things that are problematic while KNOWING its problematic because you either get lumped in with Haters Who Watch it and aren't actually critical just, hater bullies, or, people who love it sm they dont see flaws.
i guess tldr version is i hate that at least for ours/us , problematic introjects ( fictional or factives ) are supposed to just.. go into hiding or not use their names.
this did get a bit long and also a bit discoursey. but we really feel you here anon. our response is below the cut.
hey, we’re sorry, we know exactly what you’re talking about, but we do not have a good answer for you. it really is so unfortunate that introjects with problematic sources are so often scorned, cast aside, ignored, or unable to live their lives in ways which are affirming to them.
engaging with ““bad”” or problematic media doesn’t make you a bad person. thought crimes aren’t real. people are capable of consuming media without being like the people within the work and making the same choices. you’re allowed to like hazbin hotel or harry potter or whatever. literally it’s fine. some amount of critical thinking may be necessary (for example, enjoying hp while understanding the author’s bigotry and how that may have influenced the work), but again, consuming problematic media is fine. besides, engaging with media with problematic themes may be cathartic for a lot of people and can even help folks come to terms with their own pasts and trauma histories.
we’re huge proponents of do no harm, take no shit, ie consuming problematic media doesn’t harm anyone. but engaging in harmful or problematic behavior does, so check yourself, and be open to being called out if consuming certain things has influenced you to start acting in harmful ways. as an example of this, our system really loves breaking bad. a character on that show says “bitch” a lot, and that got incorporated into our own lexicon. it was on us though to learn how to curb our language and when it was and wasn’t appropriate to use that word. that doesn’t mean we can no longer enjoy breaking bad. it just means that we have to be cognizant about how the media we love has been influencing us.
but when introjects are involved, people seriously need to understand that these system members are not literally their sources, even if they are extremely source connected. introjects (and we do mean all introjects, not just fictives!) with problematic sources are real. they exist in the real world, and they deserve to be treated as people and respected as equals, not as discourse points or something that exists in theory but not in real life. a hazbin hotel introject making fanart or writing fanfic of their source does not benefit the creator of the original work in any way, and should not be a reflection on that introject or their system’s character. and quite frankly it is no one else’s business how an introject chooses to engage with their source.
we do think that introjects whose source is a real person who committed atrocities or caused grave harm should absolutely keep their source’s victims in mind when they discuss their source in order to be respectful towards other real people who have been harmed. but we believe that just takes cognizance and self awareness with a willingness to center compassion and respect for others and primarily victims of your source in the ways you engage with it publicly.
idk we could go on about this for much longer but in the end:
1. it’s okay to enjoy problematic or flawed media. it’s okay to make fan works for said media. you’re not supporting the original artists or creators by enjoying their flawed work and making fan works of your own.
2. introjects need to be treated as people with rights and agency first and foremost, even if they are incredibly source attached. that means they should have the agency to use their own names or appearances and identifying how they wish. it’s their lives, after all.
3. people in general and especially in the plural community should strive to be more understanding towards introjects, many of which did not get to choose their source, many of which may have complicated relationships with their source, and none of which need to be lectured or preached at about how their source is harmful. like. chances are, they already know.
idk. sorry if this is messy or all over the place, feel free to reach out if you need any clarification or have further questions. introjects with problematic sources will always be welcome on our blog, no questions asked. and we hope to help cultivate a plural community which is kinder and more understanding towards introjects of all stripes.
It's Atticus. I got thrown into front for some reason, so I wanted to start some conversation.
Problematic factives, specifically of publically harmful people, what's the hardest part for you about being yourself? How does it affect the way you see yourself and interact.
This post is ONLY for factives, fictives do NOT derail, fictives, do NOT speak over anyone, fictives do NOT decide it's your place to tell someone's else's story
Being a fictive of a widely hated character from a widely loved source is such a wild ride cause I regularly see people talking about my source like "OMG I love [my source] so much, it's so fun, all the characters are great. Except [my source character], I hate him so much he is the worst!"
Cause on one hand HURTFUL!... But on the other hand... yeah, same (in source, I sucked), but then I feel awkward and hate telling people my source because I just know I'll get judged for it... so yeah... mixed bag, I guess -_-
