explaining to annoying ass Floch stans that genocide is not self-defense, fascism is not logical, and that nothing can ever justify genocide in the year of twenty twenty-five is taking years off my life. engaging with people who have no developed moral framework, negligible historical knowledge, and poor reading/watching comprehension is a nightmare. they don't know shit about the ideologies they support.
they keep trying to paint me as someone who opposes violent resistance to oppression, when I am very much not. they believe committing genocide was the only option to respond to Marley's planned genocide of Paradis, and therefore the "logical choice", when multiple other options were provided. namely, using a partial Rumbling to destroy military centers worldwide, as Armin suggested. still extremely brutal, but understandable when facing worldwide annihilation. they refuse to see how Floch's entire ideology is fear-based. they understand nothing, yet are so vehement in their stance. I have no idea how these people were propagandized in support of a fictional empire that the text blatantly condemns. it's astounding. it's almost impressive.
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Hello! I wanted to say that is how I see what would have happened if Megatron had been there when Eren said his infamous words to Mikasa.
Eren: Mikasa, I always hated you.
Everyone: *Gasps and yells of shock*
Megatron:
Eren: Megatron!? Why are you here?! *Memories don't show Megatron here*
Megatron: I was curious what kind of lie you would see, and I see a blatant one!
Eren: I am telling the truth! I hate Mikasa!
Megatron: Really? Then why do you still have her gift? *points at the red string*
Eren: . . .
Megatron: In addition, you asked Wrecker to take a picture of Ackerman when she was wearing her pink kimono.
Everyone: A pink what?
Mikasa: *blushing*
Eren: *Angry blush* Fuck.
On a more serious note, besides the obvious that it was a blatant lie from Eren, I never understood WHY you included that after you answered my question about Eren planning his death in AOP. After some thought, I remembered the memories he saw, one of Optimus's death and another of older Mikasa without her scarf while holding something, and that was before Founder powers were activated so he had limited idea but he could get some clues, and in conclusion:
He starts the Rumbling -> he kills Optimus -> Mikasa kills him to stop Rumbling.
So while he did not plan his death, if he gets killed by Mikasa, he will at least make it easier for her to kill him. Because whatever you can say, both of these dummies loved each other deeply, and you could believe Mikasa is obsessed with Eren, with my limited knowhow of AOT, I gained a sense that those two truly loved each other, Mikasa was just very overprotective of Eren, something you already tackled in AOP, but I can see that at the end of AOT, she could not let go completely of Eren, at least move on, even when Eren in the Cabin Moment, where he said after death she need to forget him and live freely. In AOP, while I don't think she can find love again, at least one as deep as she had with Eren, given she said that part of her still loves him, she can move on and live freely. But that part with love is my own opinion.
First of all, incorrect quote is hilarious.
Second of all, this is once again from the perspective of a manga reader waiting on a month to month basis for answers on what would happen next regarding the next chapter. Theories were running rampant, everyone had something to say, half of the fandom wanted Gabi dead, all that stuff.
It was around chapter 105's release, Sasha's death, and Eren's reaction that I had concluded that Eren was going to activate the Rumbling in full, and I wanted Optimus to be the one to kill him. To be hailed as a Savior from the stars. Mikasa had no real role to play when it came to Eren's death.
I also had no real thoughts of Eren being able to even the whole future. Hell, Eren being able to see into the future was just a theory, and we were never even given a full explanation on how Eren was even able to accomplish seeing the whole thing. Sure, he touched Zeke, but we've always seen memories in increments and gaps. Kruger was only able to reference Mikasa and Armin by name. We didn't even know if he was ever able to see their faces.
Before then, as I've stated, I was going to have Eren set everything up to have Optimus become the hero, but the backlash that happened in chapter 139 made me reconsider and rewrite stuff. Making Eren go the nihilistic route like Jobu Tupaki in Everything, Everywhere, All At Once. If everything is the same, over and over, then let him be selfish. Let him end it all.
In regards to Eren seeing a future with Optimus' death, the death would have remained that way had it not been for the interference and hard work of others. Again, we're never given a full run down on Eren's future visions, we didn't know he was seeing all of it instead of increments. Personally, I thought that Eren would be trying to change the future, because he was able to change the past in the cave. But the way that it was written in chapter 139, it made it seem like the future was set in stone and couldn't be change. It creates this cruel irony that Eren never really had freedom to begin with. Everything was decided. But it takes away Eren's choice. Almost like it absolves him? There are other snk critics that can explain it a lot better than I can. But I was leaning more towards the route of "the future can be changed, but Eren refused to do the work to change himself and the future". He refused to grow.
But there was a lot of discourse regarding Eren's feelings for Mikasa when the chapters were being dropped.
Prior to the Marley arc, it was clear that Mikasa had feelings for Eren, but it was never really clear if Eren held those same feelings. Sure, Eren did care for Mikasa, but people questioned whether or not it was platonic or romantic.
The time skip when the manga chapters were being dropped didn't help much with the discourse either. People were taken aback by the sudden whiplash in new characters, waiting for months on end for the Survey Corps to return. Everyone was questioning Eren's motivation. Why did he make the switch? Why did he go off grid? People had more questions that just weren't being answered.
And then chapter 112 dropped, where Eren flat out stated that he hated Mikasa because she was a slave. Note, we're still not given any information about the Ackermans, and we'll never really get it at this point, but many people around this time speculated that Mikasa and Levi's fierce devotion to the people they cared about, Eren and Erwin respectively, was because of them being an Ackerman. They had to have someone to serve. But everyone had something to say regarding Eren's words. Some believed that Eren genuinely meant those words, since recent behavior showed him lashing out and ignoring everyone and killing indiscriminately. Some believed that Eren was saying it to push Mikasa and Armin away, since his main goal was to enact the Rumbling, and he wouldn't want them to get caught up in it. Some just really wanted Mikasa to drop kick Eren in the face and burn the scarf.
But the discourse continued. People debated how much of Eren's feelings were real month after month. People debated whether or not Eren did love her. Some said yes. Some said no. Eren genuinely hating Mikasa or saying that to push Mikasa away were both real possibilities in that moment. There were moments of Eren seeing Mikasa from his perspective that pushed the argument that Eren did love her, but he still got her caught up in the Rumbling mess and forced her hand into killing him. I tried to rectify Eren's unclear feelings in AOT by having a few more moments in AOP, major one being the bracelet and Primus calling him out.
I don't deny Mikasa having feelings for Eren. She loves him. Full stop. But being a traumatized soldier will obviously interfere with her own emotional growth and feelings. I can't deny that. As a manga reader; however, Eren's feelings weren't clear until chapter 139, and when that dropped, oh boy the BACKLASH WAS WILD! I can understand Eren revealing his feelings like that, especially when he knows he's going to die soon and he is also an emotionally stunted teenager with a tremendous about of power. But to have someone commit to the bit of genocide and whine like a child in that moment, was despicable because of how many lives he's ruined and taken. How many people loved and cared and were killed needlessly, innocent and guilty? There's still the matter of Marley and the world's hatred, and Eren still wanting to protect the island to the extreme. But even Eren had to know deep down that killing the outside world wasn't the solution, especially when there was still infighting in the Walls without the knowledge of humanity not being extinct.
Even so, I didn't want Mikasa to continue to hold onto Eren so fondly like in the manga and anime. She had to draw a line for herself, especially with what he's done. Obviously, it would still be hard for her to move on. She's loved Eren ever since he wrapped that scarf around her neck, so it's still going to take time for her to move on and heal, which is something I want to explore in the Future Anthology.
But, I'd recommend for you, since your knowledge of AOT is limited, to look at different AOT analysis videos and essays to help you get a better understanding of what was going on, and give you a better idea of what people liked and didn't like about AOT. You can type in "snk (chapter number ie: 139)" for example on tumblr and you will get results from people that liked the ending or disliked the ending.
I hope that answers everything. There's a lot to discuss regarding the SNK discourse, so if you do decide to look into that, I do advise you to be careful because...it can get nasty in there.
I don’t really understand why the under ground is like outcasts. theoretically underground is the safest place from all of the titans, why aren’t people paying good money for a bunker? Like yeah Vitamin D, but in terms of home ownership. Thats the safest place to live? If anyone has any reasoning please lmk
On this fine morning, I would like to say that I can understand why some hardcore eremin shippers have been having a hard time with this shot right here from the latest episode:
I understand that Mikasa wasn't originally a part of this shot, but some people are legitimately pissed at her character and...?? I don't see the point. So, in regards to this shot in particular, I'd like to share why I didn't find this..."offensive:"
Mikasa was on her way to the ocean as well. The entire closing scene on the beach was just as much for her as it was for Eren and Armin. Yes, it was their dream to see it originally, but that doesn't mean Mikasa didn't believe Armin's story about the sea, nor does it mean she didn't WANT to see the ocean. GUYS. She's their BEST FRIEND.
I would probably have been a little irked had WIT decided to add her in every time they flashed back to this moment. But they haven't done that, so I think I can forgive them this once. Mikasa deserves to be included in the poignancy of the beach scene, and adding her into this flashback (aka, including her in their dream for one second) helps emphasize said poignancy.
Maybe it wouldn't have been my choice to do add her here, but from a creator's standpoint (and maybe this whole post is silly--I don't know what WIT was truly thinking, after all) I can understand why they might add her here.
Mikasa is a fictional character. She didn't CHOOSE to be here and "butt-in."
It's clear Eren and Armin had looked at that book a million times throughout their childhood. Mikasa had to be there for some of it, right? (Yes, this shot is in the same place as the other flashback in which they're canonically alone without her, but couldn't we technically look at it as, "Oh, they returned and included her this time?") Eren and Armin LOVE her. They'd want her included in their excitement sometimes too, wouldn't they?
TL;DR: I know people aren't just salty about this shot in particular, that WIT has glossed over canon Eremin moments by adding Mikasa in or using her to replace Armin. So, if you want to direct your salt toward WIT, fine. But don't...direct it toward Mikasa's character? She's fictional. And also Eren and Armin's best friend. An integral part of EMA and the entire story. Mikasa didn't choose to be included in this shot.
This might be a dumb question. But. I can understand if Isayama sucks bc of that twitter thing. But what does that have to do with snk being nazi propaganda? I don’t know a lot about Asian history I’m sorry. Like I get not wanting to support snk bc of his views regarding Korea but why is that twitter account being used as evidence the story is antisemitic? Are there antisemitic tweets?
The antisemitism is mostly coming up because people have begun taking notice to the most recent arc, but not actually reading it to understand what's going on. People are mostly hung up on the armbands (which I was also a bit uncomfortable with) and seeing similarities between how Marley is like Nazi Germany and the Eldians are like the Jewish people. I think there's also a lot of jumping to conclusions about all of it, because Isayama is certainly not trying to make Marley out to be the good guys. In fact, his main focus for this entire series is showing the horrors of war and the perspectives of both sides.
Yumihisu vs. Erehisu; A formal, hate-free analysis
Aren’t ship wars fun? We had our biggest one when the series first started and I’m sure you already know which one I’m talking about if you’ve been around that long. Yep, Ereri vs. Eremika. It’s a rivalry that still plagues the fandom to this day, however, it’s simmered down considerably over the years. Unfortunately when one ship war starts to calm down, another takes its place and this time in the form of who does Historia Reiss truly belong with. To answer that, I’m gonna talk about the two relationships separately and then try to explain why I believe both sides feel the way they do. Beware of spoilers.
Okay, first up is Yumihisu. There is honestly so much that goes on between these two that if I were to list them all, this post would be way too long; Not to mention the deeper into their relationship we get, the more people’s interpretations start to differ, so I’m keeping it simple.
We got our first glimpse of Historia, formerly known as Krista, in chapter 3. She had just entered the military after having been sent there by her father’s suggestion. Standing close by is another girl we find out is named Ymir, who decided to follow Krista into the military after overhearing her story in a church. Ymir quickly falls for Krista after meeting her and makes keeping her safe and happy her number one priority. Because Ymir can see so much of her old self in Krista, she is able to tell early on that she is not displaying her true personality, but is rather taking on a role that was forced onto her. As a caring person by heart, Ymir was willing to do whatever it took to make sure that the girl she loved would not give in to her fate, but rather choose her own and live proudly by it.
These five simple words make all the difference in the world for Historia’s character and are what ultimately stop her from conceding to her father’s will and injecting herself to eat Eren. Even with Ymir gone, she will always play a major role in Historia’s life.
Now let’s talk about Eren and Historia’s relationship. It wasn’t until chapter 51 that the two of them talk to each other face to face for the first time.
These were the very first words Historia said to Eren. The wound of being left behind yet again is still fresh in her heart and she is ready to recruit Eren to help bring Ymir back. Shortly after realizing there was no point, Historia goes into a state of depression and passiveness. Eren was pleased to realize that Krista Lenz was never real and told Historia that he liked her true self much better. These words meant a lot to Historia and from that point on she had found a friend in Eren. Their friendship grew stronger as the story progressed, and now they share a deep bond of trust and understanding.
Okay here’s the part where I talk about this shipping conflict. I’m starting with the Yumihisu fan base and why they feel the way they do. Being a Yumihisu fan myself, this will be easy. Again, I’m keeping this as hate-free as possible. Ymir and Historia’s relationship in the manga was a joy for fans in the LGBT community. Even after Ymir left, many of us held on to hope that the couple would eventually reunite. All we could do was wait and hope, and we finally got excited again when we first heard about Ymir’s letter. A few chapters later we got to see what she wrote; she claimed that she would be dead by the time Historia got her letter, but we still weren’t quite buying it. The thought of her leaving Historia behind like that just because she felt bad about eating some guy she didn’t even know didn’t make the least bit of sense, yet here we are. In chapter 93 we are hit, completely out of nowhere, with a two-panel flashback of Ymir about to be eaten. No dialogue, no further explanation, just her sad, defeated face. We just wanted Ymir back and who do we get instead? Some new guy with a name that would make me wanna kill my parents if they gave it to me. Now I realize that some people have come to love Porco and that’s fine. I’m not going to interfere with their fun in any way, this is just my own opinion. Personally, I don’t find him nearly as interesting as Ymir, so deep down I neither love nor hate him; I simply don’t care. Ymir’s death dealt a huge blow to Yumihusu fans; some people stopped making content because we have nothing new to work with anymore, and some dropped the series all together. Meanwhile, Stephen Universe and Adventure Time fans are thriving with their own victory, to which I offer my sincerest congratulations:
Two lesbian couples get a happy ending, courtesy of Rebecca Sugar. This is literally all we wanted for Ymir and Historia, and after all these years of patiently waiting what do we get?
We get this cheap off-screen death, and just when we think it can’t get any worse, we get this:
*slowly bangs head on table*
So. I learned quite an interesting statistic from all of this. Apparently any time there is a gay couple in stories like this, it is annoyingly common for one of them to get killed off and then the other character ends up with someone of the opposite gender. This is part of the reason why we don’t like Historia being paired with male characters, especially at a time like this. It feels very in your face and disheartening. I mean come on, not everything has to be romantic. There is beauty in friendship too, and what Eren and Historia have is a great example of that. While that is no reason to pick fights with other erehisu shippers who are genuinely reasonable people, this is just my way of explaining why we feel the way we do in the hopes that we can understand each other better.
Finally, erehisu. Admittedly I don’t have as much to say about their situation because I’m still kind of in the dark. I’ve read some posts though, and some of them believe that just because Historia loved Ymir first doesn’t mean she can’t move on and be happy with someone else. Also, some of them are called homophobic for shipping what they do, which I agree does stretch it a bit too far. I also agree that yes, it’s okay for Historia to move on, however, I don’t see that as a big possibility right now due to Isayama’s statement that he doesn’t want to incorporate romance into the story very much. So with that being said, who does Historia truly belong with? That decision is ultimately up to Historia herself.
Damn this was a long post, but I hope my take on this has been helpful because I’m gonna mostly stay out of this. I’m just here to have fun, and I hope the rest of you are still having fun too. Thanks for reading! *and please be nice to each other*
Can control Pure Titans as long as they're of royal blood and have the full power of the titan, whatever that means. However, there's the Vow Renouncing War that makes all of royal blood who inherit the Founding Titan have no other choice but to take their own life, or at least kill all Eldians/Subjects of Ymir. Then what purpose does it do for Historia to have a babe? I think this is why I was so confused by the latest development in the story and no matter how I tried, I kept feeling something was amiss.
