Ok, so I loved this new chapter, and fortunately, my theory that Eddie's edgy attitude had an explanation seems to be correct, and they aren't just making him out of character! Awesome!
Also, I wanna say that with how this is going, I'm seeing similarities with old Titans members, is like:
Spoiler/Batgirl is the Nightwing
Red Devil is the Raven
Eva is the Miss Martian
For Terra and Superboy and Wonder Girl, well wonder girl is a new wonder girl 🤷♀️ and Terra was already an "official member" back them and Superboy is... I have no clue... all his storylines are confusing me to be honest.
So, my favorite girl, Steph.
I thought that Steph was acting aware that she was the leader of this new group, but I was wrong. It is in this chapter that it becomes official (to her at least) because the team right away asked her for her guidance and lead and she is confused because it turns out the other time she was just guiding them following cyborgs plan and she didn't think she was being considered the official leader. I loved this because it's actually very accurate with her character. She is someone who started her thing alone without help to stop her criminal father, she wasn't even inspired by batman to do it like the other Batgirls and when she tried to fit in the world they kept pushing her away, mistreating her, even looking down on her and she never gave up, not even death could stop her and still currebtly they keep hiding things from her... so when a whole new group of young heroes like her basically proclaimed her as their leader because they trust her after seeing how she did it in their first mission confused her! Omg my girl was so used to being a prop, to be dismissed, to feel not trusted, to even being disrespected and disregarded that she couldn't believe she finally got the chance! She couldn't believe people wanted her! 🥺🥺🥺🥺 finally so comfort for her poor self-esteem 😭
Special mention 🤣🤣, I love how they give proper credit to Cass, Batman (and Tim) NEVER trained Stephanie as good as Cass did. Fuck you Bats (and Tim) 🖕🖕, they never did a good thing for her so I hate how much she still admires them 🤮, fortunately my girl only mentions Cass as it should be😤😤
See? Eva is clueless a bit like how Miss Martian used to be 😂😂, also some of her powers seem similar, and hey, she helped convince Terra to stay in the team and... she built a new tower??? Her powers can do THAT??? just like that??? With the paint and everything?? I little bit convenient, but I'm not going to discuss this comic logic detail 🫠. I don't think she worked out all her issues but is a good start.
There he is!! Sweet 😭😭 I knew he was still a sweet boy even with all they sass he has now he is a devilish sweet person😭😭 and looks like Superboy's life is a little complicated right now... 🙁🙁 I have no clue what is happening to him, and to be honest, i stopped being interested in his storyline after he was forced to grow up.
See what I meant by Red devil is the new Raven?? Literally part demon with a demonic daddy in hell!!!
So we have daddy issues.... you know who else have those? SHE DOES!👇👇👇
Deeeeeeeeee Ceeeeeeeeeee be nice, ok be NICE, and fucking set up a reunion please!! I need these two souls together again 😭😭😭 I want to see a kiss so badly! Let my girl get her loving demon BACK!
I finally read the last episode, and every character seems to have a personal issue:
Nightwing: I haven't read his story yet, but I know he is feeling like guilty for something, and his girlfriend is in jail, and his ex-girlfriend is leaving to have a personal adventure so no of them can comfort him and he seems to have a need of being needed... I suppose Stephanie can help with that.
Stephanie: I already pointed out her in other posts. She is basically probably very anxious about proving herself because she was left in the dark again and believes people don't trust her for whatever. She definitely could use a mentor now... so bonding time with the happy chatty (but probably depressed inside) robins.
Yara: she is purposely ignoring Donna Troy's calls... so there must be some lore there I don't know. Also... she seems to reaaaally get along with Steph
Look at them... Yara, being chummy with her the same way I wanted Rose to be chummy with her... Cass will be jelly about this. But nw seriously, I need to know how they all met, I mean, Cyborg recruited them, but how was their first impression of each other? Also, aside from Rose, there's another character I wanted to see being this friendly with Steph again...
Reaaaaaaaally UNFAIR!!!
Red Devil: I'm not happy about the edgy snappy attitude he is having, I really want to see the sweet boy side he used to have (especially with Rose), but I came to the conclusion that this defensive sassy attitude is due something specific that is happening to him and since the next imminent threat they are going to face is familiar with him I hope we get to see the development. They could also just bring Rose wilson back so she can put him in his place 😏, like I bet he would become a sweet demon puppy again the moment they meet again... of course if the writer decides to be accurate and not portray then out of character 😑
Terra: another one with an attitude, for now is just that she is not adapting herself yet... I'm not really a fan of seeing her again, to be honest, but well... let's see how it goes... at least Beast Boy isn't near her 😤
Eva: Poor girl just wants to understand humans... people are saying she reminds them of Miss Martian and... I think they're right but I try not to think about it because it reminds me of the team we could have had years ago😭😭 that included her... Well in any case she is not an unpleasant character for now.
Jon: Look... because I am forever resentful with the outrageous decision of forcing him to grow up unnaturally and killing his childhood, I wasn't paying too much attention to him and his adventures so I'm not sure about all he is going through I just heard something like he is doing three different things with different names??? Wasn't there a Super less busy than poor Jon? Well, even with how busy he is he still made time to play with Eva, that was sweet.
Also I want to add something extra here because I watched a reel of a guy comparing Jon and Stephanie about how they treated Eva and I have to disagree a little:
he commented on how the Supers are friendly sunshines and bats are a bit cold or edgy... ok, for some members that might be true, and every single one of them has had a dark phase moment buuuut if we are talking about Stephanie, that's bullshit 😒.
So, Stephanie refuses to play because she is busy, but Jon made time exclusively for Eva despite being busy. To be fair, the guy explains that obviously that is due to him having superpowers that make it affordable but still saying that Stephanie was cold or came off as unfriendly is completely untrue, out of all the people that rejected Eva she was the most friendly and polite about it, Terra and Eddie yelled at her and Yara didn't even acknowledged she was there but Stephanie made clear that she would love to, that past her would have dropped everything for playing a little but that currently she can't afford that and maybe they could talk later when she's done. What's cold about that? She just explained her situation! On top of that, after Jon was back to offer to play, Stephanie showed up with the whole new gang (except Terra) so they could hang out! So, nope, my girl is NOT an edgy bat, ok? 🙄😤
Well, it looks like DC is bringing back one of Stephanie's traumas. Let's see if they actually commit with it...
Look at her... she's definitely upset with what happened in the batman Run because obviously the new Titans is happening after Barbara's incident and Tim's decision (fuck you Tim, never come back🖕)
She has "something to prove", once again, Stephanie has been wronged and taken for granted 😡.
I'm talking about the "Being left in the dark" trauma:
Steph is expected to just follow plans without asking, respecting other people's choices of not speaking to her for a long time without giving a reason, leaving her to stew over uncertainty. It's like everyone forgot about the gang war incident that happened because Stephanie didn't know who Matches Malone was, something even Catwoman found strange, since a Robin should have known that. So it looks like she thinks they still don't see her as good enough to be 100% trusted or who knows where this is going.
So, now I'm kind of divided because I stated that this was a great opportunity for Dick and Stephanie to bond because just like she is perfect, big sis material for Damian she is also perfect, little sis material for Dick and that potential relationship was completely wasted in the past but is not too late and she opening up to him about her insecurities regarding her place and how she feels left out too often would be wonderful if they ever do it (I don't completely trust these writers yet) but as much as I would love for this happy yappers Robins duo to bond over this situation because as the prime Robin and first batman sidekick he had bonding time with all the robins except her but to be honest I also would want the failure dead Robins duo to talk about it because I believe Jason is more appropriate for this issue than Dick.
Why do I say this? It all started with Jason's Task Force Z Run, where he needed at least one person in the batfamily who was more understanding of him and approached him differently than the others, in a friendly way and giving him some tough love with words and not fists and the team behind this decided very rightfully that that person had to be Stephanie. I already had more than one post talking about their similarities and their connections, and I'll probably write more but to sum up my point is after they bonded in this issue, Stephanie mentioned this to him:
So ever since this run, nothing has changed, as she said, "if she didn't snoop, nobody would ever tell her anything," so as see here she already mentioned her problem to Jason in an emotional moment when she was the only one who wanted to see him to say goodbye after all his antics.
My obvious reasoning is that she relates to him (obviously because of everything they had in common), and because of that, I believe she could only trust this emotional wounds to him, that he is the one who would understand her the most and that's why the other option rather than talking to Dick who is way too perfect to understand this I would like to see a crossover between the new titans and the new teen titans Jason is babysitting since both of them are now in a "leader spot" and Jason is going to be struggling with that too for sure... is a perfect time to put them together on a mission or something so they could talk! Superheroes comics aren't only about action, characters have feelings like us and I want them to develop them.
Well all this is just wistful thinking because for all i know they can just forget about this and she wouldn't even have the talk with Dick 🙄, or a talk with anyone at all... but if she has the talk with someone who isn't Dick or Jason I'm going to be very disappointed.
For example I don't want them to use Stephanie's struggles to make a new character to look good, like I don't want Eva to be her savior is not her place, she has nothing to do with it so please don't make Stephanie problems as prop to highlight her, let Eva shine without using others, though this is nothing but an assumption.
Please be Dick or Jason, DC please do it right! 🙏🙏🙏😖😖😖
And obviously as a Jaystepher who is aching for the start of a good Slow burn I prefer Jason😂, but Big bro Dick is also fit for this situation so I won't complain if is him but be ready for a rant if they do it with any other character 😤😤😤, well... that if they even bother to do it at all😒😒.
Ok ok I'll try to be positive and believe they will commit with Stephanie's development 🙏❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Specially because Stephanie is included and that means she is in the same team as Jason 🥳 I'm a Jaystepher, we are pleased with any little crums we can get 🫠 so anyway I have a few things to comment but the first thing I have to say is:
They really took the Japanese mechas concept, fused the Power Rangers with Transformers, and made a Robins team with them! I LOVE IT 🤣
But i gotta be honest, guys, the size of the big Mechas is... ridiculous! Jason's mecha with the giant fire gun is a bit too much😂😂 they're going to do more damage than good to the city come on! A giant mecha against one dude in a bat costume... Batman better have his own Bat-mecha, Battransformer whatever!🫠
So... the first look I had of the characters without the mecha suits... they had this style😍😍😍👇👇👇 LOOK AT STEPH AND JAY!!!
So, after this I completely forgot about the actual current art style used in the comic and... I got my face slapped extremely hard by this: 👇😐
QUE ES ESTA MIERDA? DONDE ESTÁ MI PUCHAMON!?🤬😭 Jason's face???? Wtf is that?? 😭😭 And Steph??? I don't mind the haircut or the eyebags but I will not tolerate that tone of Blonde!! The difference with the blonde color in the first picture is too much! Is like she got her hair dirty with ash! 😤😤
Anyway... let's address the elephant in the room, or more like the angry little gremlin 🤣🤣🤣🤣 who's this? TIM???
NO WAY!! 🤣🤣🤣 Tim's looks have been sacrificed to look as Damian as much as possible... this is just another level of bullying the poor guy... They just couldn't make Damian happen in this universe, so they got another Robin butchered to look and possibly act like him so we don't miss him. The blatant favoritism pfffff 😂😂 Tim is the new little green mean bean 💚🤣
And at last, my delusional Jaysteph crums for my dear Jaystephers comrades:
JAYSTEPH SPARRING!!🥰🥰🥰
Gotta be honest, when my friend showed me this frame, I wasn't sure because there were 3 white Robins with black hair and could be any of them but after a good observation and analysis I concluded that yes, he is indeed Jason, there are obvious clues: One, can't be Tim because that body is too big compared to the height they gave him and two, they had a specific shade of skin color, Steph, Tim and Dick have a pinkish tone that Jason doesn't and match that frame so YEP JAYSTEPH SPARRING!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰 also another detail I see is that Steph and Jason are the only ones that have their jumpsuits zipped up all the way... as if they wanted them to match 👀👀‼️
This? This means so much to me as a Stephanie brown fan:
Though I would like it more if they used her first and original vigilante name Spoiler instead of Batgirl, I'm not going to complain since my girl is finally getting the spotlight she deserves! Something that was mentioned in that dammed Robins run where she was in a simulation: The leader of a new Titans team, this time for real!! just like a good former Robin she gets to be a leader! (And Jason too, though he got a bunch of teens 😂😂funny, there was and old project that got canceled with Stephanie as leader of the teens, now Jay got the job), but I'm also being melancholic here... I really loved that other canceled project years ago where she was going to be in the same team as supergirl and Damian, I miss those interactions 😢, seriously, Supergirl was part of her team in the simulation... well I hope they meet again someday.
Sure, she has Jon but... I already expressed my negative feelings about aged up Jon, he should still be baby superboy not another superman already ☹️, at least we have Yara also being a titan like Cassie and Donna and Eddie is back! (EDDIEEEE I'm so happy he is here and alive!! Please, please bring Roseddie back! Rose, get your ass here!! 😫😫😫)
And I'm also curious about this new character, Eva and looks like Terra will be also in the same team... let's see how that goes...
And for real, I want to see big bro/little sis interactions with Steph and Dick
ITS ABOUT TIME! Let the batfamily sunshines have a funny dynamic!! In case you don't get what I'm talking about, Stephanie was compared a lot with 3 characters, Dick, Barbara and Jason because she had similarities with them, she was compared with old Dick because of her cheerful, pun queen, hopeful, chatty side, is unfair that this similarities are only pointed out in the webtoon FWA where Damian complained that Steph and Dick basically share the same brain sometimes.
The first time Dick and Stephanie interacted properly was when she was Batgirl and he took Batmans mantle temporarily which changed his sunny attitude so I didn't get the dynamic I wanted. I don't think they're going to start being silly together in Titans... but I hope in a break or something... is honestly a waste! The two together could be like Damian's or Jason's worst nightmare if they join forces to tease them. Oh boy I better not get my hopes up, but I hope they have at least a mentorship heart to heart moment, Steph really needs that kind of conversation in my opinion.
OMG I SERIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO RECOVER SINCE HIS RETURN!!!
LOOK AT HIM!! RAVAAAAGER!!! ROOOOOSE!!! GET YOUR ASS OVER THERE !! THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE GOT HOTTER!!
GODDAMMMMM ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 (OH look there's also my girl Steph💝) but seriously look at EDDIEEEE👇👇
Well well well, look, he's back with sassss! (oh, look , my beautiful Steph again 💖💖) wait. Superman? No. No. NOPE!! Now listen DC you little shit, I never accepted the forced age up Jon Kent shit you made but I could tolerate it as long as he is still a teen kid, so he has to be called SUPERBOY 2 understand???he is a fucking boy not a man!! Aaaaaaaaaaajjjjjj I miss Kon so much too, i would have liked to see him working on the same team as Stephanie only to spite Tim to be honest.
Uuuuuuuffffff❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 seriously they upgraded him so goood.... ROSE! BRING HERE ROOOOSE!! I NEED ROSE TO MEET HIM AGAIN!!! 😭😭😭😭 (steph is so pretty 💘💘💘)
Fuuuuu his profile is so fine too👌👌👌 (sweet Steph in the corner💜)
Rose, the Kid devil grew up to be a smoking hot MAN, come here to start a romance with your MAN!! I'm so offended they never got to kiss! I DEMAND A ROSEDDIE KISS!! (Aww no more steph?💔)
DC, I swear I will do witchcraft to you if you don't bring back Roseddie!! 👊👿
Take some responsibility, if you cared enough to bring back Eddie after so many years the least you can do is make him reunite with Rose 😤🤬... I'll be waiting 😶🌫️
IM SHAKING IM SHAKING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA omg omg omg MY BEAUTIFUL GIRL STEPHANIE BROWN AND...AND... IM FUCKING LOOSING IT RIGHT NOW!!!? IS THAT FUCKING KID DEVIL??? RIGHT AFTER THE POST I MADE MISSING HIM?????????? 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 EDDIE? IS THAT EDDIE??? SOMEONE TELL MEEEEEEE EDDIE IS BACK???? STEPHANIE HAVING THE SPOTLIGHT SHE DESERVES AND EDDIE ALIVE AND IN THE TITANS AGAIN AT THE SAME TIME??? IM HAVING A HEART ATTACK ❤️ 💙 💜 💖
Fuuuuck Eddie please be Eddie please... is it way too ambitious of me wanting a Roseddie reunion now? OK OK I'm going to just enjoy the moment, I'll ask for more later OMG those were too many emotions at once... im melting 🫠 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠 Rose... dear ravager you teenage crush true love is baaaack
Eddie is alive Eddie is alive Eddie is baaaaack... because that's Eddie right?
So... after this alternative universe future where Jayrose is a thing like in DCeased but this time was marriage life plus a daughter... i want to remind people that this is not the first time Rose had an alternative universe daughter... Don't you remember Red?
She was Rose and BEASTBOY's daughter! LOOK AT HER! She has the coolest design but her father being beast boy with that design was devastating for me to see and also absolutely ridiculous, like one: wtf is this random couple? And two... she looks so much like the boy I absolutely believe is the only one who earned the title of being Rose's best love interest and possibly true love.
I like jayrose as a friends with benefits kind of ship not as a OTP, Rose and Jason never EVER had the emotional connection or chemistry Rose had with... Eddie... kid devil
Eddie's death broke my heart, the fact that there's an universe with a daughter that looks so much like him but is the daughter of a green boy who should be with Raven instead of him being the father felt like a cruel mockery... I will always wish for a reunion.
Sorry but those universes where they put Rose and Jason together because they can't think of another love interest for him feel lazy, Rose is not exactly the type of female character that I see being interested in settle down and have kids in the traditional way, not even with Eddie... and so many alternative universes but none of them have an alive Eddie to be with her, is so UNFAIR they forgot about him. Sorry Jayrosers but currently with the love interests he had between Rose and Artemis it was Artemis the one closest emotionally to Jason... i mean, in my opinion at least but they never use her for because of her immortality i assume or because they don't want to recreate another wonderbat situation with the whole Super, bat and Amazon team being emotionally compromised.
Well anyway... this post was overall to remind people of Eddie's existence, I don't care he is dead:
KID DEVIL WAS ROSE WILSON'S TRUE LOVE AND NO ONE COMPARES TO HIM!!!
They deserved more! They deserved more time together! They deserved to be a power couple!! I wish he resurrects and Rose finds him again! Bring the sweet boy with the tough girl together again 💔💔💔
DON'T FORGET ABOUT EDDIE!
It might have been a teenage love but it could have been a lot more than that
NICK WILDE'S NEXT SHIRT COLOR PREDICTION IN ZOOTOPIA 3
So it has been confirmed two things about Nick's change of clothes in Zootopia 2:
They chose to give him a pink shirt to illustrate Judy's positive influence on him because Judy was wearing a cute pink shirt too when she came back for him to apologize a finally solve the mystery together and right after that Nick's life changed for good.
His new tie that has night howlers flowers on it was a present from her!
So, my prediction is that in Zootopia 3 Nick's shirt color will be.... YELLOW!
I edited it the best I could ok? 😖🙃
Ok so my reasoning for this, if his shirt color changes literally because of Judy yellow is obviously the only choice. Once again she comes back to him to drag him into something that will change his life, he gets to wear a suit for the first time in his life (it is confirmed he was happy when he saw his reflection because he never thought he would wear one) a suit that Judy gave him and then she showed up with a stunning yellow gown inspired in lalaland they said (but honestly it looks more like princess Bella dress)
The night she wore this was the night that set on motion the story of the movie, the moment their lives changed and he was so determined to protect Judy and not expressing his true feelings until the last moment. I also think this would represent officially his infatuation for her, she even put one of her flowers on his suit making them somehow match even more with that tiny detail, I say this because this moment is when we start to see that he would really follow her to the moon if he has too.
So what do you think? You think I'm right and could be Yellow? I mean I know her casual clothes are blue but that would be so redundant he already has a cop uniform.
*Update Edit. Someone pointed out in the comments that Nick already wore a yellow shirt in the first movie😱😱😱😱 Im afraid I suffered a Mandela effect, the day he hustled her his shirt was yellow with light purple leaf patterns and then he wore the green one after that... Buuuuuuuuuut I still think is going to be yellow in the third movie anyway, that yellow shirt was a pastel tone, I think Nick could use a brighter tone exactly like Judy's dress aaaaaaand a flower pattern because of the flower accessories she had! *
ZOOTOPIA 2 ALSO KNOWN AS THE STRAIGHT VERSION OF QUEERBAITING OR MAYBE... AN INFURIATING DISLIKE TO FRIENDS TO LOVERS SLOW BURN
To think there are people who don't like this potential romance or something and are still deluding themselves into believing there's nothing romantic happening between these two is fascinating, you don't like it Ok, that's it and is valid 🤷♀️ but cooooome oooon don't just go and deny the obvious 🙄 let's check the indisputable facts.
All the romance bait in the movie:
Nick comes up with a undercover plan where he and Judy pretend to be married with a baby where he can call her "Babe", also the ant eater they were trying to trick was surprised but accepting the odd mix, a subtle way to tell us YES interspecies relationships are a thing.👌👌
They go to a "therapy" session named partners in crisis that feels suspiciously like "couples therapy" you know that thing where marriages in crisis go.🤷♀️
Judy's parents gave her "relationship advice" comparing their marriage with Judy and Nick partnership with advice like: "you want to be right? Or you want to be happy?"😂😂
Nick keeps the carrot pen Judy gave him as a treasure and puts it in the only clean spot of his apartment along a picture of them together, is almost like a altar.🥺🥺
They go undercover to a gala dressed as if they where going to dance a waltz also Nick gives Judy the same look 🫠😏Flynn gives at Rapunzel when she looked dreamed eyed 🤩 at something and gets jealous of Pawbert when he sees Judy laughing with him and in the novelization Nick even says: "look I don't like this guy", also before they went there Judy convinced Nick by telling him: "No one will ever whether you and I belong together", interesting choice of words 😏
After being framed they were offered fake identities to flee to an island, Nick was totally on board and guys fleeing with your female partner to an island to drink piñakoalas feels a bit like you are eloping or in a honeymoon trip.🤭
When they were going to the secret reptile hideout they where on board in a walrus/ship thing and Judy said "happy anniversary" to Nick referring to their time as partners and the walrus mistakes it as a marriage anniversary and sets on romantic lights and the music from the lady and the trump when they were eating spaghetti and they look awkward but never clarify they aren't a married.😂😂
After loosing Gary on the water tube they follow another lead to a place named the Honeymoon lodge and some goats tells them: "have fun at the Honeymoon lodge" this is like the third time they are mistook as a marriage 😂
After Nick gets arrested he reunites with Nibbles again and she notices he isn't with Judy and then she asks: "trouble in paradise?" Another interesting choice of words 😏 plus in the novelization this scene is a bit different when Nick explains what happened to nibbles he ends the explanation with a: "and then she ditched me... For a Cat" wow in the book Nick was a lot more jealous 🤭 and obviously the whole "solitary animals like me don't have real friends and I don't want to lose her", funny because he does have friends like Flash, who broke traffic laws for him... But it seems that with Judy is special.
The way Nick was so willing to risk his life to save her giving Gary the anti venom pen in the movie Pawbert tried to discourage him saying is not worth dying for and she said "agree to disagree" in the novelization Pawbert says "you wouldn't risk your life" and Nick says "She would"😭😭😭. This shows both how much Judy is worth risking his life for even though he was a solitary animal that trusted no one for years and how much he admires Judy and knows how she would risk her life for the right thing, even though he really dislikes the idea of her getting hurt.🥺🥺
The HUG! God what a difference with the half barely touching hug they had in the first movie! 🫠🫠And poor Gary going away because he was awkward 😂 like a person who feels like a third wheel 😂And the confession! Almost dying and almost losing someone always gives you the boost to be honest and vulnerable and of course it doesn't have to be romantic... BUT IT WAS ROMANTIC🔥😤 don't fuck with me! All the specific words: "you are the best thing that ever happened to me" 🫠"no one in the world matters to me more than you do"🫠🫠 and is understandable he said that giving that aside Judy he barely has anyone else but Judy has an entire family and still she said "no one matters to me more than you either" he is the one that helped her fulfill her dreams! Also he said he didn't join the ZPD because he wanted to be a cop but because he wanted to be a part of a pack and he considers Judy his pack! So a roundabout way to say he joined FOR HER
And this? Nick fixed the carrot pen and gave it back to Judy and said: "love you partner" and she records it!! And in the post credit scene she keeps hearing the recording over and over again with a satisfied expression in her face THIS GIRL GOT A CRUSH!
More Extra evidence:
Remember that promo with the first movie where they were taking selfies? They did it again and they showed us them making a heart with the paws 🫶 together and then Gary made a heart with his body behind them, yeah that's suuuuper platonic 🙄
Judy only has pictures of her family in her desk but Nick has that promo picture in his desk and another picture together in his apartment while Judy only has one in her locker, he is the one who fell first and hard😭
Lynxes are natural competitors of foxes for preys (specially rabbits) and also their predators, if they don't have a better prey to hunt they could eat a Fox (if you scroll down you'll see a video of YouTube a posted here where there's a lynx fighting with a fox) that's why they made Nick be jealous specifically of a Lynx. Also this is a Frozen movie reference, Pawbert acted like Hans.
In the first movie there's a storyboard with a deleted scene where Judy parents were in Judy's apartment and her dad thought that Nick was her boyfriend, so aside from the fact that interspecies relationships were already a thing I find interesting this scene about mistaking Nick as Judy's boyfriend (which by the way neither of them were denying it) was cut out but in this sequel they made them be mistaken as a MARRIAGE as if the directors regretted cutting that out in the first movie 😂😂😂 and again neither of them deny anything
In the novelization Nick doesn't say "you know you love me" he says "you know I love you", I personally like the movie version because it showed how Nick needed to be loved by Judy.
Plus some evidence in actual animal behavior:
Male foxes only have one mate in their lives unlike the females, if the mate dies Males stay single but females can get another mate. So we know Nick is going to be loyal, this reinforces his "I would die for her, she is the only one" behavior... Kyaaaaaaaaa 🥺😭🥰🥰🥰
Female rabbits are physically aggressive with potential mates and Judy can't stop friendly punching Nick when she is excited, it's also been officially confirmed that is indeed her "love language"
So guys... If the directors and voice actors are so ambiguous and evasive with the Wildehopps ship is not because they aren't canon, is simply because they don't want to give away anything that might be happening in the third movie!! Stop denying the OBVIOUS!!
😤😂🫶
Oh another important detail, they don't know each other for days, they know each other for months:
They met a few minutes then the next day Judy drags him 48 hours to solve the case then they fight and three months passed before Judy finds Nick again, three months where both spent thinking about each other very angsty then after they solve the case Nick goes to police school for 6 months in which I assume they stayed in contact and then a week officially working together happens and that's the time set they meant when they say the movie started where the first movie finished.
Hey I just wanted to point some things about Zootopia and Zootopia 2, two details I LOVED:
The Ears: I love the tiny animal body language details on Nick, people often only notice Judy's ears movements because are bigger but Nick's ears movements are absolutely adorable! The way they go up when something catch his attention or he gets a jump scare and also drop when he is sad or ashamed and also scared again. I specifically found the cutest when in the first movie they were sandwiched together between the mafia polar bears and Judy asks Nick whispering what did he do to piss off mister big, he is absolutely scared and stiff keeping his eyes looking at the front, he doesn't move or looks at her BUT if you pay attention you will see that when Judy talks to him the right ear moves at the sound of her voice... Is just soooo cuuuute!!!😻😻😻😻
Night vision: I think this detail is just so cool and subtle, Nick never talks about having night vision, you can only read he has that skill in the paper Judy gives to him to join the ZPD but if you pay attention you'll notice he uses the night vision a lot of times in both movies, the first time was when they were in Mr. Big's car when looking for the missing otter, Nick checks on the back inside the car completely in darkness and gets scared at what he sees and then Judy has to light up with her phone light for her and Us to see, later when they are in the hospital Nick walks and notice things in the dark he points Judy to see with her phone light. In the second movie he can move around the Honey lodge and the inside of the climate walls without a light unlike Nibbles and you'll see Pawbert didn't need it either, kitties have night vision too.😻😻😻😻😻
Oh just one more little thing! Though Foxes are from the same family as the dogs turns out they don't wag their tails to express emotions the same way dogs do... But they still do it to some degree, to show excitement and happiness they make soft movements, slower than the dog's tails wagging but still... I'm sad we didn't see any Nick's tail movement when he was happy...😿😿😿 We only saw how he used it to cover Judy's view from his dirty apartment 😹😹😹
I had to comment this because I have seen several times the comparation between the possible first sonamy meeting scenario and Toothless and his interaction with the lightfury and I think I have a more accurate scene to compare 🤭
I already posted a tiny fic of the sonamy meeting 🤭🤭 (scroll down if you haven't read it already)
But seriously, thanks to the new Lilo and stitch live action trailer I remembered something... Doesn't Amy's post credit scene remind you of Stitch, you know a powerful blue alien who landed on earth and found an ohana/family between humans... and that time in the series that followed the movie when he met basically a pink female version of him? 🫠🫠😏😏😏
I think Sonic would be closer to Stitch than Toothless 😂😂😂. Though obviously Amy won't be a double Spy like Angel, for spies I hope we see Rouge.
Now I want Sonic to say to Amy: "will you be the Angel to my Stitch?" 😂😂😂 I would love it if Sonic happened to have watched the movie and the series, I bet he can obviously relate to Stitch.
They even have the same first letter in their names SxA🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵
I very hope, Sonic acts like a clumsy teen that has never seen a girl before because with his personality in the movies and how Amy is represented he can't act like he acts in the old games and I love how universally most of the fans seem to agree with me😂🫶🫶 I mean obviously his personality here leads to assume he would act like that 🙃🙃🙃
What do you think? 😌
Imagine Tom teasing Sonic trying to take photos of his first interactions with a giiiiiiiirrrrrrlllll 🤣🤣🤣
Sonic's first interaction with Amy has to go exactly like this or it will be a massive disappointment:
Amy: hello! 😁 I'm Amy, Amy Rose!
Sonic: you... you are another hedgehog!🤯
Amy: eh 😶 yes I am ☺️
Sonic: and you are a GIRL!! 😳
Amy: Em... 😐 Yes, indeed I am one 😅
Sonic: OMG you are a girl hedgehog!! 🫨
Amy: 😑again, yes I am.... Did I...?🤨 Did my hammer hit your head by mistake? Im sorry! I swear I was aiming for the metal yous... 😥😖
Sonic: 😦*snaps out of it *😳 ah? Eh no, I mean almost but no! 😣And that was impressive...🥴But ammm I was just... Shocked!😅 I mean this is my first time...😵💫
Amy: seeing a Girl or something? 🫢
Sonic: whaaaat? 😳No, no no no I mean... 😣I mean seeing myself in METAL yeah that😅, I mean of course I have seen girls before (just not hedgehog girls) *Cough cough *😤 so... What were we doing?😬😁
Amy: hihi 🤭Emmm we were introducing ourselves, I'm Amy Rose and you are...?🙃🫱
Sonic: oh yeah of course 🤓😅* cough * I'm Sonic, Sonic the hedgehog 😎🫲
🤝
Amy: 😏yeah I can definitely see you are a BOY hedgehog hahahaha😄😜
Getting only 24 issues of her run as Batgirl. I wish she had more, after all isn't Cass getting now a new run as Batgirl again?
Not appearing at the boy wonder comic when it was specifically Robins related and instead they put Barbara as Batgirl (like if you wanted a Batgirl use the fucking Batgirl who used to be a Robin).
Not being included at birds of prey with Cass and Babs.
Getting 2 heroes team projects with her included rejected. (In one she was with Supergirl and Damian, denying us that is a hate crime)
Not appearing in Damian's drawing of people who loves him when she is canonically the first big sister figure he had and she helped him be a kid and have fun.
Getting her character denigrated by Tim's bisexual actions like: dumping her without giving her a reason or having a proper talk, ghosting her for months, only talk to her after their friends force him to do it and then without warning or asking her introducing his new boyfriend to her and make her react like a fujoshi 13 years old wattpad writter saying that "the best day ever" Is meeting her ex' new boyfriend in the most cringe way ever.
The time they tried to erase her time as Robin and Batgirl in the new 52 reboot
Only let her be Robin for 2 months and was fired for doing something every Robin has done more than once.
Dying so fast in DCeased when she became Damian's Robin and never coming back even after Taliah said she would use the Lazarus pit on her.
Not having a visual reaction of Selina, Cassandra, Dick and Babs to her being alive.
Jason not mentioning her to rub it on Batman's face when he came back to life for revenge or mentioning her to black mask, what a wasted opportunity!
Never had the realistic representation of the trauma she should have after being tortured by black mask.
Never hanging out properly again with huntress (well I think they were seen together again once but not enough), Supergirl, Black Canary or Green Arrow junior after the reboot.
The fact that in my opinion she never got a proper apology from all the people that wronged her and treated her badly, like a lesser fighter, like she was a bother, like she wasn't made for vigilante life, I think I saw Tim apologizing to her but it felt shallow.
Not showing us Tim visually crying for her death.
Completely ignore how was her very first interaction with Catwoman, in which Selina was extremely kind and sweet with her only to screw it in the second meeting in her run as Batgirl and later in the new 52 reboot making Selina be a jerk to her.
Making Alfred be cold and dry to her in their first interaction, yes he later cries on her death and then he is very happy when she comes back and later he stands up to her against Batman's stupid tests but it doesn't erase the fact that he was mean to her when he met her and I think that was out of character with Alfred.
Her teen pregnancy arc, some people might think this was a way to make her character more tragic and deep but that pregnancy arc didn't bring anything good to her character because it was all about Tim not her and it makes my blood boil. This arc was just a cheap "easy" Way to make Tim and Steph become closer in their relationship by making Tim be there for her and taking care of her even though he wasn't the father and help her and that and I suppose it was also to make more dramatic her death telling Batman that she had a daughter and Batman be all like: "I'll make sure the baby never has to ask for anything" And then Steph dies... Seriously this is the one thing I wish they could erase from canon FOREVER, making Steph go through that just to make her deepen her relationship with Tim only for getting killed off and eventually dumped with everything she already had on her plate was CRIMINAL
Jason not meeting her properly before the stupid new 52 reboot and still not having the trauma and dead Robin talk with her.
.... I'm pretty sure Tits and Ass is something Stephanie Brown would proudly call them everyday 😂😂😂😂😂, like anytime of the day... Over breakfast: good morning Tits and Ass have some peach and buns🤣🤣🤣🤣 she is just that much of a menace
And after calling them that she will be running from them exactly like this: 👇👇👇
Damian's drawing of people who loves him personally offended me when i saw the lack of Talia (but fucking Ra was there! So ridiculously absurd), Duke, Jason and more importantly in my opinion the lack of STEPHANIE BROWN! Barbara and Rose Wilson never had the bond he had with Stephanie not even Cassandra and im specially Salty about Maya because all the fuss about the "adoptive sister" That showed up right in the messed up new 52 as if Stephanie wasn't literally the fucking first big sister figure he had, this is so insulting giving the fact that STEPHANIE WAS HIS BATGIRL:
The Batman's no-daughter and Damian first big sister, Steph is a Bat member that is placed along Batman's children but she was never adopted and we could say she is kinda in the same position as Barbara, they can only become official daughters if they become daughters in law.
I firmly believe that Damian can't be placed along all the people that personally wronged Stephanie because... Damian has been an arrogant jerk with absolutely every hero he has met, he looked down on his own father at first, the fucking Batman! So he literally didn't discriminate Stephanie, because even if he tried to insult her saying he was disappointed to see she wasn't Cassandra, when he actually met Cassandra he tried to undermine her as well so to me that comparation doesn't have the same weight as when she was constantly compared to other heroes by other certain characters.
The little time they had together in the Batgirl run was way too precious, the teasing and the banter and how they worked together was so good! Stephanie was so good to him! She got him to be able to behave like a kid because she noticed he didn't even know how to play, she got him to play with him in a bouncing castle, she wanted him to smile, they worked together to save Dicks Batman and i always laugh when Damian teases her about "not having a big chest", Damian dear you were so fixated on that for no reason... Maybe Steph was also his first platonic crush... I think the second was Supergirl 😂😂.
(I miss them when they were like this... I miss them everyday 😭😭😭😭)
DCeased wasn't exactly one of my favorite comics regarding plot but it has a special place in my heart for being currently the only alternative universe that represented this sibling relationship as it was always meant to be until the disappointing death that was supposed to be solved by Talia and never happened as if they forgot.
That universe gave us a beautiful present and that was the very first time someone (wonder girl Cassie) officially acknowledged Stephanie as Damians big sister and not to mention the hug! 🥺🥺🥺 he actually let himself being comforted in her arms and hugged her back, when he saw her he even called her "Steph" Not "Brown" Or "Spoiler/Batgirl" and oh my god she became his Robin 🥲 and to me she is just the perfect Robin to his Batman after all... She was also the Batgirl to his Robin.
Another thing i want to point out, when Alfred was murdered Dick still didn't have all his memories, Jason was just too angry and Tim didn't do much, Barbara isn't that close to Damian so I think they totally should have used Stephanie here, Damian really could have used a big sister... Again wasting her character but I guess they wanted to use only the closest people to Alfred and sadly it looks like Steph isn't one... But she is an important person to Damian no matter how much DC wants to erase her, she will never dissapear! I can't believe Barbara and Rose Wilson and that pop out of nowhere post new 52 Maya are in that drawing of people who makes Damian feel loved BUT NOT STEPHANIE!! Even the horrible RA is there?! But not his mother or HIS FIRST AND IN MY OPINION BEST BIG SISTER FIGURE STEPHANIE!!! DC YOU HAVE A LOT TO ATONE FOR 😤😤😤😠😠😠😠
Fortunately the author of the webtoon family Wayne adventures has a better understanding of this and gave us the precious moments they deserve:
In my head this is Stephanie with her 3 best boys, the ex, the little platonic brother that might had or might not had a platonic crush on her and who i think is her very soulmate ❤💜
All in purple because is my favorite color and it's her color 💜:
1.She is literally the Batfamily Sweetheart, a bubbly chatty sunshine (even more than Dick Grayson) and characters like this tend to have a very high emotional intelligence due to be very open with their own feelings and that's something the Bats really need because they need to balance their EMOness and seriousness and that doesn't mean she can't take things seriously. It's just a very nice contrast, I wish she stayed longer as Robin because that brightness was all Robin was about.
2.She has the advantage of being easily underestimated which ironically is something that the first Robin also used by wearing a goofy outfit, Dick Grayson own words: "it makes bad guys think I'm just some goofy kid", "Their understimation gives me an extra element of surprise" and this strategy actually works most of the time. Being underestimated is a strong weapon and she should embrace it and take advantage of it.
3.Mentioned by two (maybe more but I didn't find it) characters: Dinah Lance and Damian Wayne, they described Stephanie as BRAVE, specifically Dinah said when she thought she was dead that she was endlessly brave and heartbreakingly hopeful (I'm literally crying, we were robbed of more time of them together) and Damian stated the other Robin's qualities and said that Stephanie is the bravest Robin and also in the time they first met Stephanie explained to him that sometimes things weren't always about vengeance but about hope and also her bravery and unbreakable spirit is seen when she fought off Scarecrow fear toxin and kicked his ass.
4. She was the first Batkid that became a vigilante without any influence from Batman and became Spoiler with the whole purpose of messing with her villain dad evil deeds. (I'm kind of upset they made her later became obsessed with pleasing Batman and the whole Batfamily when she started so independent from them, it was harder to see how much they rejected her)
5. If I didn't love so much the color purple I would totally demand the green corps to grant her a green lantern ring because I think this girl willpower is deserves one, I have to give it to the writers who undoubtedly hated her, because by insisting so adamantly in making all the fucking family of Bats being mean to her, discouraging her, intensely reject her, knocking her unconscious so she doesn't bother them... They made a character with an iron willpower, she didn't yield, they couldn't stop her... They could only stop her killing her and they still had to bring her back. I once saw her, Damian and Babs wearing rings but she was wearing the blue ring of hope... It also fits her perfectly anyway I bet Hal Jordan would like her because of how she gets on Batman's nerves and would take her under his wing just to spite him.
6. She brought light to the Batgirls, first said by Cassandra: Stephanie was the only one who was able to make her feel like a normal girl and enjoy things outside the vigilante life and she also helped Babs who became bitter after having to use a wheelchair, Cassandra as Batgirl is an excellent crime fighter but their backgrounds were too different but Stephanie reminded Babs about herself and somehow Stephanie's hope gave Barbara hope as well.
7. Told by Bruce and Cassandra, she is unpredictable, she always turns the tables in the way you least expected.
