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percy with slit pupils mermaid style send post
honestly that post I just rebloged is exactly how I feel about Annabeth and percabeth as a relationship.
yes, Annabeth is traumatized teenager. that trauma (and her hubris) make her act the way she does. I do think some of her action towards Percy are toxic, if not outright abusive at times. No, I don't think she's an irredeemable evil person.
I don't think acknowledging her actions as maybe not the nicest is even some type of insult against her, it's just the reality. traumatized people won't always be nice, but that doesn't mean we can't acknowledge when they hurt other people just because they too have been hurt
a leap of faith !
They make me physically ill
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iām watching phm with my mom and we just got to the scene where stratt asks grace to go to space, and this is the conversations
stratt to grace: āyouāre smart youāll pick it upā
mom: why canāt she go instead
me: sheās not a scientist
mom: sheāll pick it up
me:
mom: he should speak up and say āiāll go if you goā
me:
mom: maybe that beanie is making him dumb
me:
mom: he should have brought her with him
me: *breaking down laughing*
its funny because Percy has been spiraling ever since pjo and whenever he has a particularly bad episode you have other characters actively worried about it and you think to yourself surely they're going to intervene, surely someone is going to talk to him about it, and then like no one ever does lol
even in non life or death situations people are just expecting him to explode lmaoo
i have princess in a tower disorder (uncontrollable isolation)
brain grace,,, grain
Polycule but itās just two people in a romantic relationship with each other and their third whoās pretty obviously aroace but also somehow so deeply intertwined in their lives that itād just be wrong to not count them as involved. Is this anything.
Learning to take care of each other
IāVE FIGURED IT OUT!!! LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN!!! Itās his hat!! I have been trying to figure out what his hat was symbolizing for almost a week now and I think Iāve finally got it!
Everytime he wears his beanie, he loses his agency and right to choose.
Think about it: he wears it when he and Stratt are talking for the first time, before she more or less intimidates him into the car. Heās wearing it later, too, when the building blows up. What else is there to do but to run across that field and hope, hope the scientists are alive. (They are not.)
Heās still wearing the hat when heās asked to go in Duboisā place, when he asks for time to think about it. Itās the illusion of choice. He asks and is given that chance to āthink about itā, and so the beanie comes off as he thinks. It returns in the montage later, on the roof, as he breaks down over it because he knows. He knows he canāt say yes. He doesnāt understand how anyone could agree to being the sacrificial lamb, as referenced in the earlier conversation with Yao, so does that really make it a decision at all?
The beanie remains on as he informs Stratt of his decision.
He wears it when he gets told heās going on the mission anyway.
He wears it when he runs. Our last shot of Doctor Ryland Grace on Earth is when heās wearing that hat.
Update!! Now that Iāve seen it again, I have a better insight.
First, a correction: he does not put his beanie on while talking to Stratt for the first time, he puts on his helmet. (Putting your guard up, anybody?) He is unsure, wary of her and her intent, and he makes that known, tries to shut her down.
A second correction: when Grace is informing Stratt of his decision not to go, he is not wearing the beanie at first. He pulls the hat on when heās telling her she ācanāt convince [him], [his] mind is made upā. He thought he had a choice, but it was never going to be that way.
Now, onto the new stuff. That beanie isnāt the only beanie, much less hat featured throughout the movie. I touched on the helmet, but Grace also wears ballcaps, a bucket hat, animal hats, a party hat, and a different beanie whilst in space.
Weāll talk about the space beanie first.
Itās to be of note that Grace is not sent up with the beanie we see in the flashbacks ā so he makes do with what he has on hand. That is, he cuts a pant leg off pre-vodka-spree and ties it into a makeshift beanie. Heās actually wearing it when he finds the alcohol. Heās the one inhibiting his choices this time. Heās got zero memories, is 11.9 light years from Earth, with two dead crewmates. What does he have left but to wither and drink?
The next time this particular beanie is worn is when Grace makes the calculations to go back for Rocky, and when he loads up the Beetles and sends them on their way. Itās his choice, yes, but is it really a choice when itās the person you love most? When the question isnāt āwill I sacrifice myself for my best friend?ā but āhow will I find him?ā Because, really, he found his someone to be brave for.
(Interestingly enough, Stratt wears a beanie similar to Graceās Earth one in the future, after the Beetles return. Sheās still dedicated to the project.)
The ballcap is next! I donāt think this hat represents the same loss of autonomy that the beanies do. Hereās why: Grace wears it as he watches everybody having fun, singing karaoke, enjoying themselves while he seems to be the only person unable to do so, work spread out on the countertop in front of him. He goes outside to escape the room, to talk to Stratt, and takes the hat off as he asks about her lack of singing, a friendly icebreaker question, an olive branch. Itās during this conversation that he opens up about his discomfort that everybody seems to be so happy, and asks her about her own discomfort and fears (āmust be hard having to ask everybody to.. you knowā āactually it isnātā; āyou think youāre going to pull it off?ā [ā¦] āGod willingā āyou believe in God?ā āIt beats the alternativeā) only to be shot down. He puts on his hat without another word and goes inside. Itās inside, however, that he is subject to Sign of the Times without the hat. Sheās saying āIām sorry, youāre looking for a friend, for someone with whom you want to be vulnerable, but it canāt be with me.ā
He wears the space ballcaps twice. He wears two at once in a short clip of him standing in front of the Golden Records ā the thing that kicks him into gear. Coming face-to-face with the Golden Records are part of what triggers him to take the hats off and stop avoiding the corpses in the other room.
(Tucked around this clip is Grace wearing a straw bucket hat, to which I donāt really have anything to say about. Grace gives a different bucket hat [Iām fairly certain] to YĆ”oās body before sending him off.)
The next time he wears the ballcap (that same Project Hail Mary ballcap), heās wearing it on his way to the planet Adrian. Whatās more is that Rocky is also wearing one. If weāre keeping with the ballcap=emotional barrier theme, thereās far less of a wall between them now. They arenāt using the long distance of a tunnel connecting their ships with the big, thick xenonite wall blocking them from entering each othersā spaces. Up to that point, theyāve talked almost entirely of science or their mission (and mission-related deaths). Itās not impersonal, but there is a distinct separation that eases very quickly afterwards, particularly once they begin the journey and they hang around more. Forced proximity but both of them are lonely and enjoy each othersā company and neither want the barrier. Rocky may have been the first to chip at that wall, mimicking his movements and recreating Graceās atmosphere in his side of the tunnel, and further by building the ball, but Grace reciprocated pretty quickly in taking his helmet off (bike helmet core much? Taking it off instead of putting it on) and showing Rocky the mental health room.
(Stratt wears a ballcap on the ship, in front of the room of leaders and scientists. She also wears it when sheās smiling at Grace, the moment Dubois and Shapiro die. She is emotionally distant from everybody, however the existence of the ballcap implies the ability and maybe even want to take it off. Three days. She had three days.)
I know Iām recording these out of order, but I would like to discuss the animal hat(s) next. There is a purple bear, a fox mask, and I believe a rainbow bunny(?). He only wears these while heās alone, at the beginning. And thatās what I think they represent: loneliness. A bit ironic to have animals portray the lack of another being. Grace is wearing the purple bear hat while he dances with the mop (elegantly dubbed Moppy Ringwald), the fox mask while he tries to figure out who he is, and the bunny hat while heās drinking and crying after sifting through Ilyukhina and YĆ”oās things, including their photos of them with their families. I think itās loss of connection ā and he never needs those hats again because, well, he finds that connection.
Lastly (for now at least ;)), the party hat is pretty self-explanatory. Just like how Grace had worn the ballcap and taped the other to Rockyās ball, and like he made the space beanie himself, he creates the party hats for both Rocky and himself on board. He even goes so far as to draw and colour them. Itās the only hat that doesnāt really have any sort of negative connotation, born of celebration, even if theyāre upset at the thought that theyāll never see each other again.
So there we have it! My updated hat analysis. I may be reaching, but this is my goldilocks zone /silly. Donāt be afraid to debate or add on! Iām writing this all at once so I hope this is readable lol
Sally Jackson is the reason that Percy does not see the issues in his relationship with Annabeth, and does not see it as toxic when it is.
Ok, now, before you raise my head on a pike, I have an explanation.
First I want to backtrack a little. I feel like Gabe needs to be more of a discussion point when talking about if Percabeth is toxic or not, because Gabe had a lasting effect on Percy and many of his actions inform how Percy sees himself.
Itās established that Percy has little to no self-esteem. He doesnāt like himself. Heās passively suicidal at best throughout most of the books, though Iād be tempted to say heās just full on suicidal really. He was abused at home, and at school treated as stupid and not worth the effort. All of this informs who he is when we start in TLT.
But the biggest thing, is that growing up Sally and Gabeās relationship was the only reference for romantic relationships he really had. Sure there mightāve been others around, but Sally married Gabe when Percy was only a few years old, meaning for most of Percy younger formative years, Gabe was the dominant male role model. He wasnāt good, but he was what Percy had as a guide. He watched people come in and out, and he watched as nobody stood up to Gabe. Nobody challenged Gabe, not his friends, not Sally, nobody. They accepted the behaviour, and on some level, seem to have taught Percy to do the same.
Itās not that Percy canāt recognise Gaveās actions as wrong, but that they, on some level, have to be accepted.
I think the other issue is that Annabethās toxicity, while prevalent in all her appearances, is definitely dialled back until they are older/in a relationship. Annabeth uses Percyās loyalty and his low self-esteem to boost herself.
Annabeth quite literally stated on Percyās first quest that she didnāt care if he died as long as she could stay on the quest. This is after setting him up to be attacked by the Ares Cabin, which she had to have logically known would most likely result in Percy being injured in some capacity.
Then, we have SOM. Not as bad, really, but her treatment of Tyson shows how her bias influences her decisions and overall sets the precedent of how sheās not really all that logical. This is also then exacerbated when her fatal flaw is revealed as Hubris. Annabeth, time and again, falls victim to her fatal flaw and quite nearly gets herself and everybody else killed for it. She has no ability to accept that she is wrong, and no ability to apologise or take responsibility for her own actions. But Tyson highlights an interesting pattern of bias with Annabeth, and how she continues to allow it to cloud her judgement. She does this with Luke and Poisedon, and the Aphrodite and Demeter campers too. She is quite easily ruled by her own emotions.
And really, this is more a dig at Rickās writing than anything, because the biggest annoyance with Annabeth is that she never shows any character growth. She doesnāt develop and therefore it makes her even worse.
TTC is one of my favourite books, because we get to spend time with Percy without Annabeth. This book completely dispels the idea that Percy is incompetent or reliant on anybody. He handles himself quite well and connects with both Thalia and Zoe, and even Bianca in a smaller moment. Again, Annabethās bias is what gets her in trouble. She takes the sky to save Luke, who she knows has tried to kill Percy multiple times at this point. Percy takes the sky to free Artemis so she can fight Atlas. Annabeth does it for Luke, whereas Percy does it for everybody. Thereās a big difference in that.
Then we get to BOTL, where the toxicity rears its head a bit more with Rachel. Now, weāve all been teenagers, everyone gets jealous of everything, thatās not news. Annabeth taking it out viciously on Rachel and nearly ruining the quest due to her bias against her is a big thing. I also hate when Percy returns from the island. Instead of just embracing the fact that heās alive and being grateful that he is, she gets huffy that heās been on an island with Calypso. That was not Percyās fault, yet she acts like he chose to go there.
then TLO. The coward line. Again, annoys the shit out of me. Like sheās pre-disposed to believe the worst of him. Itās an interesting juxtaposition, actually. Sheāll always believe the worst of Percy and the best of Luke. It comes up again and again.
Mostly the issue likes with HOO. The judo flip, I donāt even need to explain. But the entire way she acts towards Percy in that is terrible. This is also true for the short stories, where Percy outright states he is scared sheāll hit him.
Percy speaks multiple times about being scared of Annabeth, both of her physically hurting him and of her reaction to things in general. She does not communicate at all, and gets angry at him for not knowing. Then thereās the whole thing with Akhyls, which could be its own post.
But, the Sally of it all.
Sally invited a monster of a man into her home, knowingly, and that has had an effect on Percy. It warped his sense of what was acceptable and what wasnāt in a relationship. Kids internalise things, and we already know Percy did as a kid as a lot of his insecurities are things Gabe would pick on.
I think the biggest issue is that he believes Gabe didnāt love his mum, and he was terrible, so he was wrong. But he believes Annabeth loves him, and so every action she takes is for the better, which is plainly untrue.
Now Iām not saying this is all Sallyās fault, but I am saying that in exposing Percy to that relationship for a majority of his younger childhood had much more impact than what people discuss when writing fics. Percyās acceptance of Annabethās behaviour isnāt because heās a doormat. He doesnāt just accept people treating him shitty, so it has to stem from somewhere. It stems from Gabe, and consequently, what Sally taught him could be accepted
adding, whenever someone bullies him, he always gets snarky and stands up to them. he doesnāt do that with annabethāitās more of an internal fear he *thinks* about that he doesnāt really *tell* anyone. with gabe, he does get snarkyāmostly in his head, and obeys mostly.
i love the distinction between him knowing gabe didnāt love his mom and do was terrible; and annabeth loves him so she means well even if sheās harmful to him.
i think itās also important to note that his mom loved him, and she wanted him near, and made the decision to have gabe around. he knows his mom loved him and she still made that decision to make a decision that turned harmful. i donāt know how to articulate this better but i feel like thereās a connection even though most of sallyās decisions werenāt harmful to him after gabe was gone.
I think it comes back to the idea that love can be toxic and hurt and just because people love you doesnāt mean they donāt make bad decisions or do harmful things to you.
Case in point, Jason Todd and Bruce Wayne.
I see a lot of the time the justification for Bruceās actions is that he loves Jason. But heās abusive. He can love Jason and be abusive at the same time.
Now, Iām not saying Sally abusive. What I am saying is that she knowingly left Percy alone with a man she knew could be physically aggressive because she didnāt want him to leave. She then continues this same pattern as Percy gets older, consistently wanting him close which jeopardises his training which then puts him at risk.
Sally loves Percy. Sally wants him to be safe. Sally is selfish.
These things are all true. These donāt make Sally a bad parent, but they do make her flawed.
Just because Percy doesnāt recognise the flaws doesnāt mean they donāt exist.
Sally Jackson is the reason that Percy does not see the issues in his relationship with Annabeth, and does not see it as toxic when it is.
Ok, now, before you raise my head on a pike, I have an explanation.
First I want to backtrack a little. I feel like Gabe needs to be more of a discussion point when talking about if Percabeth is toxic or not, because Gabe had a lasting effect on Percy and many of his actions inform how Percy sees himself.
Itās established that Percy has little to no self-esteem. He doesnāt like himself. Heās passively suicidal at best throughout most of the books, though Iād be tempted to say heās just full on suicidal really. He was abused at home, and at school treated as stupid and not worth the effort. All of this informs who he is when we start in TLT.
But the biggest thing, is that growing up Sally and Gabeās relationship was the only reference for romantic relationships he really had. Sure there mightāve been others around, but Sally married Gabe when Percy was only a few years old, meaning for most of Percy younger formative years, Gabe was the dominant male role model. He wasnāt good, but he was what Percy had as a guide. He watched people come in and out, and he watched as nobody stood up to Gabe. Nobody challenged Gabe, not his friends, not Sally, nobody. They accepted the behaviour, and on some level, seem to have taught Percy to do the same.
Itās not that Percy canāt recognise Gaveās actions as wrong, but that they, on some level, have to be accepted.
I think the other issue is that Annabethās toxicity, while prevalent in all her appearances, is definitely dialled back until they are older/in a relationship. Annabeth uses Percyās loyalty and his low self-esteem to boost herself.
Annabeth quite literally stated on Percyās first quest that she didnāt care if he died as long as she could stay on the quest. This is after setting him up to be attacked by the Ares Cabin, which she had to have logically known would most likely result in Percy being injured in some capacity.
Then, we have SOM. Not as bad, really, but her treatment of Tyson shows how her bias influences her decisions and overall sets the precedent of how sheās not really all that logical. This is also then exacerbated when her fatal flaw is revealed as Hubris. Annabeth, time and again, falls victim to her fatal flaw and quite nearly gets herself and everybody else killed for it. She has no ability to accept that she is wrong, and no ability to apologise or take responsibility for her own actions. But Tyson highlights an interesting pattern of bias with Annabeth, and how she continues to allow it to cloud her judgement. She does this with Luke and Poisedon, and the Aphrodite and Demeter campers too. She is quite easily ruled by her own emotions.
And really, this is more a dig at Rickās writing than anything, because the biggest annoyance with Annabeth is that she never shows any character growth. She doesnāt develop and therefore it makes her even worse.
TTC is one of my favourite books, because we get to spend time with Percy without Annabeth. This book completely dispels the idea that Percy is incompetent or reliant on anybody. He handles himself quite well and connects with both Thalia and Zoe, and even Bianca in a smaller moment. Again, Annabethās bias is what gets her in trouble. She takes the sky to save Luke, who she knows has tried to kill Percy multiple times at this point. Percy takes the sky to free Artemis so she can fight Atlas. Annabeth does it for Luke, whereas Percy does it for everybody. Thereās a big difference in that.
Then we get to BOTL, where the toxicity rears its head a bit more with Rachel. Now, weāve all been teenagers, everyone gets jealous of everything, thatās not news. Annabeth taking it out viciously on Rachel and nearly ruining the quest due to her bias against her is a big thing. I also hate when Percy returns from the island. Instead of just embracing the fact that heās alive and being grateful that he is, she gets huffy that heās been on an island with Calypso. That was not Percyās fault, yet she acts like he chose to go there.
then TLO. The coward line. Again, annoys the shit out of me. Like sheās pre-disposed to believe the worst of him. Itās an interesting juxtaposition, actually. Sheāll always believe the worst of Percy and the best of Luke. It comes up again and again.
Mostly the issue likes with HOO. The judo flip, I donāt even need to explain. But the entire way she acts towards Percy in that is terrible. This is also true for the short stories, where Percy outright states he is scared sheāll hit him.
Percy speaks multiple times about being scared of Annabeth, both of her physically hurting him and of her reaction to things in general. She does not communicate at all, and gets angry at him for not knowing. Then thereās the whole thing with Akhyls, which could be its own post.
But, the Sally of it all.
Sally invited a monster of a man into her home, knowingly, and that has had an effect on Percy. It warped his sense of what was acceptable and what wasnāt in a relationship. Kids internalise things, and we already know Percy did as a kid as a lot of his insecurities are things Gabe would pick on.
I think the biggest issue is that he believes Gabe didnāt love his mum, and he was terrible, so he was wrong. But he believes Annabeth loves him, and so every action she takes is for the better, which is plainly untrue.
Now Iām not saying this is all Sallyās fault, but I am saying that in exposing Percy to that relationship for a majority of his younger childhood had much more impact than what people discuss when writing fics. Percyās acceptance of Annabethās behaviour isnāt because heās a doormat. He doesnāt just accept people treating him shitty, so it has to stem from somewhere. It stems from Gabe, and consequently, what Sally taught him could be accepted
adding, whenever someone bullies him, he always gets snarky and stands up to them. he doesnāt do that with annabethāitās more of an internal fear he *thinks* about that he doesnāt really *tell* anyone. with gabe, he does get snarkyāmostly in his head, and obeys mostly.
i love the distinction between him knowing gabe didnāt love his mom and do was terrible; and annabeth loves him so she means well even if sheās harmful to him.
i think itās also important to note that his mom loved him, and she wanted him near, and made the decision to have gabe around. he knows his mom loved him and she still made that decision to make a decision that turned harmful. i donāt know how to articulate this better but i feel like thereās a connection even though most of sallyās decisions werenāt harmful to him after gabe was gone.
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maybe we've been misinterpreting Percy's fatal flaw. maybe it isn't so much "I'll burn the world down for you" and more "I'll support you and stay with you and refuse to see how you're hurting me". maybe it's fatal because it's him refusing to distance himself from toxic people because they're the ones that were with him all those years ago. yes this is about percabeth
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his fatal flaw meaning āiāll burn down the world for youā isnāt fatal to him, but it meaning āiāll stay with you even if youāre hurting meā is fatal to him. thatās the point of a fatal flaw: the flaw has the potential to kill them (or at least debilitate them).