we ship polyvees here sir

gloriousmonsters on ao3 and my main blog. call me vic. season 2 isn't real and can't hurt me

[avadaniels]

"Scrooge learns the true meaning of Bisexual Awareness Week" Make Some Noise Season 3 Episode 11

[persephoneme]

can I make a somewhat gauche angel dust poll

[persephoneme]

angel dust sex poll

died a virgin and had his lapsed catholic wild phase in hell

slutting it up since the 20s in new york sitayyy

Voting ended onJun 1

[velvetteunderground]

I think Valentino was the only vee raised religious and not only that was actually sincerely fervently devout for a period of time and so now is the only Vee who resents heaven for never answering his prayers

[chopstickerz]

NO LITERALLY

And I know this may be a hot take but I think he would get redeemed first out of the Vees

[sapphorror]

it's just the way the vees are all in their own way convinced that their worth is dependent upon their ability to shape themselves into a superficially pleasing product that can be sold to others for the low low cost of their undying love and admiration. and yet they've each found two people who know them first for the ugliest, most vile traits they possess, all the reprehensible truths they work so hard to keep hidden behind camera-ready facades, and—in defiance of everything they've ever understood about the basic nature of the world—still want them absolutely and unconditionally. the sheer potency of being cared for by the kinds of people who don't care about anybody, without ever having to do a single thing to earn it... and I couldn't possibly imagine three people who deserve it less or need it more

[artbyblastweave]

Now obviously the hard part of launching a land invasion of Heaven will figuring out where they hid the hole. Finding the miniscule aperture, the hole in physical reality to which all souls are translocated at the moment of death, and then jamming something sturdy in there, getting it in reallll good and working it around until it's big enough to fit some guys with guns through. But the nice part is that the nature of Heaven means that, one, not many people get in in the first place, and two, none of them are good at fighting, because people who're good at fighting mostly don't go to heaven. Except us, when we find the hole. The point is that once we're in there's not much they're gonna be able to do. Pretty much we'll have free run of the place

[artbyblastweave]

Update! So we forgot about God

[anarqueeen]

Turning the cuck chair around backwards to show I'm not like your other, boring cuckolds

[estrogenesis-eeveeangelion]

*youth pastor voice* you know who else got nailed while all his friends watched? that's right,

[billbug]

there's a lot of stigma associated with it but personally being a wacky cartoon villain never prevented me from finding love and fulfillment in my life

[velvetteunderground]

I think of Valentino as someone being terrible about consent no matter who his partner is, but in different flavors. With the souls he owns their consent just genuinely doesn't matter because they're his things. A bed doesn't consent for you to sleep in it, you just do it.

I think he turns on the charm publicly, and that includes one night stands with people whose souls he doesn't own. I think he almost always takes the reins and pushes what he wants, and generally people are too starstruck to say no, or realize that he's not technically asking. And if someone feels bad or conflicted or even is able to recognize his behavior for what it is-- so what? What could they possibly to do him?

For the people closest to him (namely Velvette and Vox, which is what really interests me) I think he thinks he's doing them a favor. Their wishes and desires do matter to him, and he knows that pushing things too far will have real consequences, but he sees it as his duty to figure out what Vel and Vox secretly desire and then force them to admit it, no matter what they say.

[duckiewashere]

You freaks can have some past staticmoth to tide yall over while college is kicking my ass rn

They’re very special to me 💙

[radioactive-earthshine]

You've heard of multi-shipper now get ready for multi-headcanoner: where multiple interpretations of the same character coexist in your head and they are all great.

[prodepresanti]

I've been haunted by the vision that Brighter should have been about Vox rising into power IN HELL, going from a confused sinner to the very top, without selling his soul, just manipulation, determination– and we could have seen just a glimpse of how he met Velvette and/or Valentino, just a quick nudge

[starlightpassing]

The Vees are champions at parallel play

[alastoressays]

Very important to me that reality in hell is a little bit fluid, a little wack. Valentino’s wings fold around him, as long or short as he needs them to be, defying topology, rolling into sleeves and then unfurling in an instant. Don’t try to follow the lines and planes because the geometry gets non-Euclidean. Sometimes Alastor is wearing shoes and sometimes he has hooves jutting through the good leather—but the soles go back to normal eventually so he doesn’t complain. He’s ripped Vox open several times before and it’s always a tossup if he’ll find a flesh heart or a circuit board in his chest—he has to think had about the taste of iron so the fluid spilling out from between his wires tastes like blood and not WD-40. When Nifty runs it seems like she has six skittering legs. Zeezi is always just too big for whatever room she’s in, regardless of its size. Velvette’s plastic fingers bend seamlessly like real flesh while her wrists joints seize if grit gets in them. Pentagram city is too small for its inhabitants. There are entire neighborhoods you might never know about because you have to know about them to get there. The streets bend and twitch and groan. When someone sings the lights change and the scenery shifts. Injuries hurt more if you expect them to, confidence can buy invulnerability. There is no fixed truth; Hell isn’t a place, its the collective dreaming of the dead and the damned and the demonic, a whirling surrealist strangeness only given some measure of solidity by a hefty dose of angelic power and the sheer number of thinking creatures who dwell within it.

[goth-queen]

[hypervoxel]

Obviously it's completely valid to project onto fictional stories and characters, and ignoring canon to reinterpret things in ways that are more interesting to you is very fun and I do this all time time myself. It's fine and good and makes fandom more interesting to bring your own rewrites and ideas to the table.

[hypervoxel]

But also :/ only when I do it.

Everyone doing this in ways that don't appeal to me specifically is consuming canon wrong and writing meta that is soooo rooted in their own ideas that they should just write original fiction instead 🙄

When I and the people I agree with do it though it's elevating canon to new heights.

[glorious-sinners]

Mood, but also I'd something that makes a difference for me is whether people like... Know they're diverging from canon

>'this is the stuff I came up with, I don't vibe with canon, this part is the only canon I acknowledge' <- hell yeah brother, same

>'this is how the character is and I give no sign I know it's not canon' <- ehhhhhh

[yumexcrush]

I watched the "Viv says Val doesn't understand consent" vid and ppl can't seriously think she's endorsing/making light of real SA?

She and her two directors (everyone seems to leave out mentioning the other people for some reason??) are commenting on the fact that Val owns a club called "Consent" despite the fact that he's a known rapist. So they joke that he must not know what consent means ("he's so silly and dumb" light-hearted vibes).

Like many real abusers, Val has duality. He's not scary 100% of the time. That's what makes him sinister. They consider him cute because he IS. He's designed that way on purpose. He's funny and charming in one moment, and then he's abusing people around him a second later. All they are doing is calling attention to that contrast with their joke.

They weren't excusing his abusive behaviors.

Viv even calls him a moron, and then HER DIRECTORS add, "He's OUR moron." To which Viv agrees because he's her carefully-crafted VILLAIN character.

Viv ALSO immediately talks about Angel learning to rebel from Val's abuse. But no one talks about that part of the vid because it doesn't fit into their "Viv is an evil rape-fetishist" narrative.

Here's the vid btw bc you should form your own opinion:

[hypervoxel]

I don't believe this means she's making light of real world sexual assault, however. This is a rape joke. These are rape jokes. They are joking about rape, about Valentino being a rapist. Whether you find the humor funny or not is another thing. Personally, it's not my cup of tea, and I quite understand why anyone would take it the worst way possible. I don't think dark humor is inherently wrong, but I understand how to many people, it does feel like a betrayal to hear other people talk so flippantly about rape.

Saying, "He doesn't understand what consent is," does make excuses for his behavior. It diminishes culpability. "He didn't realize it was wrong," "he didn't realize you didn't want it," is used for excusing irl sexual assault and for victim blaming. That's why there have been whole campaigns to shed light on the topic of consent, and how "not saying no" =/= "saying yes". The joke here is a topic that gets very complicated, very fast.

Anyway, I do think it's entirely understandable as a creator to make light of your fictional villain. We do this all the time for characters who murder and torture people. It can be fun to joke about your evil villainous blorbos! That being said, rape is, unfortunately, far more relatable to far more people, and there's a reason why so many people will not react to the topic even in in fiction being treated as flippantly as this. Especially because there's also a number of people who got into Hazbin because of Angel Dust as a character being an imperfect victim, and people finding that relatable and loving his depiction.

And the dichotomy of this being a serious scene where Angel is physically abused, yet the commentary is also making jokes about Val being a moron and lightheartedly, flippantly talking about how he doesn't know what consent is, makes people view this in a much worse light. If you expect serious commentary, and instead they're making jokes, you're going to be confused at the dissonance.

[iskwekan]

enter my pervert mist

[iskwekan]

all cities become walkable cities due to the low visibility for vehicles in the radius of my pervert mist

[iskwekan]

the divorce rate will skyrocket due to married couples being unable to find each other in my pervert mist