a term for those with npd who feel like some sort of inevitable, deadly explosive, always waiting for a crash in which they might try to destroy things around them ; intentionally or not.
NPD can develop for many different reasons but one of the most common reasons NPD starts developing as a child is when a child is neglected and has no stable source of attention nor is their needs met during formative years. It would make perfect sense for nine to develop NPD due to his lack of family. Tails had sonic, nine had no one.
as always, I am not a medical professional. Take my words with a grain of sour lemon candy powder and please PLEASE correct me in the comments if I get anything wrong. I have been recognized by medical professionals to have prominent NPD traits but I am not diagnosed, a lot of my takes will be based on my own experiences along with the PWNPD experiences from other narcissists I know. I will be using the DSM-5 criteria as a basis, I am aware of the misconceptions the DSM-5 contains and I will not stand for any demonization of NPD or disorders like it, kindly block me if you believe in narcissistic abuse or that PWNPD are fundamentally evil.
1. Has a grandiose sense of self importance, expects talents and accomplishments to be recognized as superior to others.
This part is self explanatory, niney is very very verbal with feeling better than other people. He’s constantly in a state of annoyance with people around him due to his lack of people he sees as equals. He’s constantly signaling to sonic how he’s better than this whole saving the world crap. You can tell he’s grandiose, he thinks everyone else around him don’t have any good intentions for him, therefore sees them as lesser than him
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of success, centered around power, ideal relationships, or items.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he has fantasies about making the best inventions or has ideations about getting sonic’s attention but I see this the most in nine’s idealized Grim. He fantasizes about a world where him and sonic can go on adventures together and never once brings up other people, in his mind, the only thing that matters is him and sonic.
3. Believes he is special and unique and can only be understood by people seen as equal or higher by HIS standards.
Once again, nine absolutely believes he is special, he believes he is the only person who knows as much as he does about the crystals and only associates himself with those he idolizes (sonic.) he hates the eggman council not because he knew they were tyrannical but because he thought they were idiots, he already knows everything they do, he’s done more research and knows way more about the gems so he’s never thought to work under them. He knows he can only be understood by sonic and therefore doesn’t associate himself with any of the others, this is shown in the fact that he never thought to join the rebels until SONIC brought it to his attention, he wants to be associated with sonic, therefore he follows him into whatever he’s indulging in.
4. Requires admiration or attention in one way or another at any given time.
He’s visibly annoyed when sonic thinks about anyone other than him, he truly depends on his attention because it’s the only attention he gets. Because sonic is his chosen person when he happens to want to leave him to interact with any of the others, nine is upset. Nine wants to be recognized for his work, nine wants to be given attention and to not be left alone, he wants sonic to stay with him, in his paradise he’s so desperate to have. Nine may outwardly seem like he has no intention of needing admiration but this is because admiration from people lower than him is expected, the only praise that matters to him is the praise from Sonic.
5. Has a sense of entitlement ( expects favoring treatment )
This is shown through his expectation that Sonic will choose him over the entirety of his original universe, Nine just expects this, this is why he goes out of his way to set up the grim for sonic because he EXPECTED sonic to want the same thing he does. When this trust is broken Nine doesn’t understand why Sonic doesn’t want what he wants, he has no understanding of Sonic’s side of the story because he assumes right off the bat that Sonic betrayed him, because Sonic’s Ideals do not align with Nine’s Idealized version of Sonic
6. Is exploitive, manipulative, takes advantage of others for his own personal benefit.
This is shown subtly all throughout the show but most notably, he steals the grim gem to study it himself, manipulates the council and will do absolutely anything to get what he wants. The rebellion also has this assumption that nine is manipulating sonic or is trying to, so we can assume he at least comes off as manipulative even if that’s not his intention. This trait is certainly linked to misconceptions about NPD, which is why I connect it to nine so dearly.
7. Lacks empathy, lacks the ability to connect emotionally to others or has a hard time connecting to emotions or experiences.
I mean. Come on. He doesn’t care really at all for the situation going on in New Yoke, he doesn’t try to empathize with sonic (or at least not at the start) and truly only can focus on his own needs, which is natural for him, he had no exposure to empathy, therefore he would have no reason to form or develop such a thing.
8. Is often envious or jealous of others or believes others are envious and jealous of him.
We can assume this seeing as he gets jealous when Sonic brings up Tails, he also gets insanely upset in season 3 because of his jealousy and breach of trust. He is envious of Tails’ relationship with sonic and on numerous occasions you can see Nine expressing his feelings about that, his jealousy is one of the reasons he splits on Sonic in season 3
9. Is arrogant and haughty in behavior.
. Yeah. Yeah. he’s constantly upset and grumpy and arrogant and leaves no room for gentleness and vulnerability unless around people he’s comfortable enough to not be rude with. Nine is petty, ungodly petty, he immediately assumes the worst nine (:D) times out of ten and therefore lashes out or has an attitude because of it.
Another key part of NPD connects to identity issues, because YEAH a personality disorder is gonna have something to do with self perception, typically in cases of NPD, a narcissist will rely very very heavily on others to regulate their ego or understand whom they are. when their ego crashes, due to the factor that a narcissist will use their ego as a placeholder for a sense of self, a narcissist will feel empty and lost without that grandiose sense of self, this panic and lost perception can make the person with NPD lash out at others, isolate, etc.
We see Nine’s crash in season 3 (?? I think, he might have crashed in the finale of season 2 I don’t remember) when he completely Isolates to the Grim, splits on Sonic, shuts everyone around him out and builds an army to affirm his needs rather than relying on other people. He’s completely out of whack, his balance of ego and self and relationship to Sonic is completely skewed and he cannot understand his behavior.
at the beginning of the series it’s shown Sonic immediately peaks Nine’s intrigue. Sonic sparks Nine’s interest for research, Nine originally perceives Sonic as a puzzle to solve, causing him to stick with Sonic seeing as he has every reason to learn about this other version of himself that Sonic speaks of. Nine has never had someone so interested in him, it makes him feel good, it makes him happy.
As the show progresses Nine forms a bond with Sonic and grows to really love him, he relies on the attention Sonic gives him because he’s never had anything like it before, no one else can fill the void Sonic fills because Nine is already convinced everyone around him is lesser than him, whereas Sonic is something new, something he can see as special, special to him and only him.
Nine’s emotional state as he gets more and more addicted to this Idea of family that Sonic has given to him, slowly progresses into something Nine nor Sonic even understands, during season 3 they BOTH have to talk about it, they BOTH have to work through it because the splitting on Nine’s part was because of that relationship that formed.
Nine and Sonic are very dear to me, I hope this was a little interesting to you and I thank you so much for reading all this, I hope this gave you a more comprehensive outlook on why Nine is the way he is and an explanation for his behaviors. Nine is such an amazing character to discuss when it comes to how NPD forms because of certain circumstances.
This was a love letter to silvy, laaa, take care of yourselves and feed your ego always.
You can be in therapy for years to be able to cope.
You can mask the difficulties you have.
You can cope well with your disorders.
You can function in daily life.
But the day you have a bad day, the day you're so overwhelmed that the mask slips and you simply say one thing, the neurotypicals will use it against you and use it to abuse you.
Abuse is a choice. Abusers make the choice to abuse someone. Not every abuser has a personality disorder. There are plenty of abusers that are Neurotypical. Plenty of neurotypicals will abuse those with PDs due to the stigma and misinformation around them.
Quit using terms like "Narcissistic/Histrionic/Borderline/Anti-Social Abuse"
Quit using "Narcissist" and "Anti-Social" as insults.
Quit justifying abuse towards people with PDs.
Quit armchair diagnosing abusers and assholes with Personality Disorders when you don't know the lived experience of people with them.
Being a shitty person and then being trans npd feels weird... . Because I want everybody to know I've always been like this, I'm just more out loud about it because I'm thinking of myself more now due to my transition (which is a net positive for me) but not due to npd
Like it's important to me that you know that (/ref) I'm just a bad person, my (trans)NPD is in spite of that okay!
And I'll be the first to admit Im a bad person (also because I want the person to say "no no, you're an amazing person! " to prove they think highly of me and I can also think "heh.. You know nothing of my true nature" like some dumbass anime side villain)
But I will KILL anybody who thinks I'm a p.o.s/toxic due to my trans npd! I "abuse" my boyfriend CONSENSUALLY and it has NOTHING to do with my npd!!!! Pwnpd are beautiful, amazing beings and id be angry if somebody associates my "bad actions" with their beauty or else ᕙ( ᗒᗣᗕ )ᕗ!!!
YES this is a weird rant, but hey, I'm sleep deprived and autistic it came prepackaged...okay?
I don't know who I am fully 🤔 I think I'm still mitsuba so hi...
Serious suggestion. If you have no empathy for endogenic systems, you may want to get yourself evaluated for a cluster b disorder. The way anti endos immediately resort to disparaging comments and looking down on endogenics without citing any legitimate or logical reason... It feels like they're just playing a "my trauma was THE WORST and no one has ever suffered the way I suffer" game to make themselves feel somehow superior or more valid. It really does come off as hierarchal thinking, and the overlap between anti endogenics and narcissism is becoming fairly noticeable. Which makes sense since pwnpd easily get trapped in that thought pattern, and I imagine there's plenty of overlap between did and cluster b in general considering both result from excessive trauma.
