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don't ask me about Hollanov

[ilyannarozanova]

Rent lowering gunshots but I hate the fucking trophy room sex scene so much. Shane knows he's the best in the league. It's not a fucking self-esteem issue he's grappling with. And maybe if Ilya wasn't such a self-absorbed asshole he'd realize that he can't magically solve systemic homophobia and racism with a pep talk and his dick lmfao

[roadhogsbigbelly]

i think there'd be alot less discourse around "fanfic vs literature" if more people treated fanfiction as it's own medium with it's own strength and weaknesses, rather than comparing it to traditional literature, because most of what i love about fan-fiction just straight up does not work in original fiction. at all.

[deletiaclementine]

Everyone in his life thinks Shane is this sexless hockey obsessive meanwhile his internal monologue at all times is like “if Ilya Rozanov doesn’t spit in my mouth within the next 48 hours I will die”

[silverssorrysoul]

shane hollander is canonically an excellent leader and captain who is loved and respected by his team and fans

[silverssorrysoul]

he might be boring and awkward at times, but he also successfully leads his team to three (3!!!) stanley cups in less than ten years — there is no world in which his team (the players and the staff) would not view him as their hockey jesus

[mymansmoon]

don't understand why anyone would gloss over shane's other hookups or claim ilya never really enjoyed sleeping around. isn't it more delicious to think about how they had other people, went into those experiences with the full intent of deriving pleasure from them, did derive pleasure from them, and knew it still paled in comparison to having each other? everything is relative! I find it far less compelling to imagine them, from the beginning, cosmically engineered to have super unsatisfying sex with other people just because they're going to end up with each other in the end. like yes the very point is that no one does it for them like each other. but I'm only going to know to find that hot if other people did do it for them, to a DEGREE....... that is far lesser than their very special soulmate-level degree.

[ilyannarozanova]

"Ilya wasn't acting like himself in tlg because he's depressed! That's why he wasn't the best boyfriend!" Okay well that would be interesting to explore if not for the narrative treating his behavior as justified and normal and righteous compared to Shane's. Who btw DOES communicate and DOES care and DOES try. But because Ilya is white and has dead parents and depression he can do no wrong while Shane is the worst person alive for being scared of the very real consequences of being a gay Asian man in an incredibly homophobic racist sport. Anyway. Fuck tlg lmfao

[gumy-shark]

playing stupid games but im really bad at them so im not even winning the stupid prizes

[mymoonandmyshane]

another incredibly tragic thing shane just drops casually happens when he and ilya do a house tour for gq or some shit. the interviewer asks something like “whats the biggest change in your living space since coming out and moving in together” and shane goes “honestly just being able to comfortably live with each other. for a long time we were erasing every tiny detail of ourselves so we wouldnt be caught. but now we can have our wedding pictures on the mantel :)” and everyone dies

[merpancake]

Reblogging with these tags because how dare you leave this in the tags!! Uuuugh amazing

[rozanovshane]

there’s hundreds of photos from centaurs parties and gatherings where if you zoom in you’ll see ilya sat on shane’s lap in the background

[lesbianroselandry]

the "shane is assimilated so he just doesn't think about his race and that's why the books don't mention it" argument is so strange to me. like. im largely assimilated in many ways but also constantly othered by being mixed from two different non-white cultures. i promise you even while im sitting here listening to predominantly western music and communicating most efficiently in english, i am still deeply aware of how i am perceived because of my race and appearance, and the ways this impacts my life. i am deeply aware of the disconnects i have with my parents' cultures and the reasons that i struggle with reconnecting with either of them. i am deeply aware of it every single time i am the only brown person in a room.

like i just . there is a difference between writing a character who assimilates vs writing a character of color as a character of color only because of your racial fetish (i.e. only for physical descriptors, and then adhering to a racial stereotype). do you guys think assimilation makes people stupid, unobservant, and completely oblivious to race and racism and its effects on their lives, and incapable of ever having thoughts on their own racial identities, or...?????

[tearose2481]

Adding on to this as a Black/Latina woman adopted and raised by white parents. We know we are different. I grew up in a house where NO ONE looked like me, and it was thrown in my face whenever my mother wanted to hurt me. When we went places as a family, I felt peoples' eyes boring holes in me. Without going into any more of my history, the idea of a POC never thinking about race, racism, and how they are impacted by it...it's stupid, it's unrealistic, and it is a vile dismissal of our daily experiences.

Shane would have felt this EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE, from his earliest memory. And once it became apparent to the white hockey boys how exceptional he was, how he made them look like amateurs...his treatment would have become exponentially worse.

RR chose not to explore that for the reasons already stated. Shane fitting into stereotypes mattered to her more than addressing the racism that would be a constant factor in his life.

But I guarantee that he thought about his race. Every day. Every time he was called a racist slur. Every time someone pulled their eyes up at the edges. Every time some kid asked why he has a Western name.

He could NEVER be oblivious to it, because he sees it in the mirror, it's used against him on the ice, and when allegations of throwing games came up, HE was the one accused. NO ONE accused Ilya. He bore those allegations alone. And Ilya never defended him. Because the racism of the allegations didn`t occur to him.

But sure. Shane never thinks about race. Not even when it is the basis of allegations that almost completely destroy his career.

[whiffling10]

thank you both for sharing personal experiences to explain this. this is why it's so disturbing to me to interact with HR fans doing all this "deep" analysis and discussion of these characters without ever bringing up race. it's so through-the-looking-glass for me to read all these intricate head canons and analyses and have race never once come up. the commitment to "color-blindness" / maintaining racial status quo is amazing.

and the thing is, I don't think it's that the people who do this don't understand. ask any white person who is the only white person in the room if they have noticed race. or just watch them twitch. the folks who are refusing to engage with this topic (the majority of what I see in HR tumblr fandom) just don't want to understand or think about it.

as you have both explained so well, the reality for Shane is that even if he lies to himself and tries not to think about race, that is perversely because he has to think about it in every single interaction, and that because he is minoritized and subject to racism. there is just no getting around it.

the racist takes are awful of course, but tbh for me, the committed refusal to talking about race in the fandom is almost as upsetting. because there's not even anything to react to. it feels so invalidating, but also is harder to address.

like...how are you out here talking about hollanov top/bottom and dom/sub dynamics and not talking about race

how are you out here talking about shane's social anxiety and not talking about race

how are you out here talking about shane's fear of coming out and not talking about race

how are you out here talking about ilya's experiences as an immigrant and not talking about race

how are you out here talking about any part of this story which is about intimacy and power and shame and self loathing and not. talking. about race.

[themoonandmyman]

Shane giving Ilya the slowest wettest handjob and edging him to within an inch of his sanity and all Ilya can do is grab at the sheets and bitchily beg Shane to give him a fucking break while also moaning like a whore

[grabmyboner]

shane is actually such a smooth flirter when he wants to be. he winks at ilya or eyes him up and down or whispers in his ear what he wants Ilya to do to him while they’re in public or he’ll put a hand on Ilya’s thigh under the table and slowly move it up and down very close to his crotch or he’ll drop some subtle personal innuendoes during conversations around others and Ilya is barely containing himself from throwing shane over his shoulder and marching off to fuck him behind the closest closed door every time.

[chemdoodles]

1x04. the truth of who Shane Hollander is

[ramslambsandwolves]

Shane and Ilya end up using a surrogate for their first kid and decide to just mix their sperm into the same vial and let randomness determine who the father is. And yes Ilya has already teased Shane that he is physically faster than him and he’s going to win. And Shane’s like ‘This is our child, not a competition and you only sometimes beat me at speed skill tests, so I’m just as likely to win asshole.”

Meanwhile the surrogate is watching them have this argument like ‘oh what cute, funny banter!’ for exactly 30 seconds before she realizes ‘oh no they are deadass trying to win this pregnancy.”

The stakes are raised further when it turns out they are having TWINS! and the excitement of that announcement is only dampened by Shane and Ilya both individually thinking “I’ve got to go 2-0 on that motherfucker who is also the love of my life and maybe the father of our children”.

The day finally comes and there they are- Aaron and Milo: the latter dark-haired and already dotted with freckles, first born and not happy about it. Aaron was smaller, light blond hair curling on his little head and quieter. It’s only when they put them together and Aaron reaches a tiny fist over to brush Milo’s cheek that he finally stills; as if he’d only been asking where his brother was this entire time. (A beautiful moment destroyed when Shane and Ilya are holding their new family and Shane whispers over the infant’s heads “If Milo is mine- I technically won.” Ilya wisely bites his tongue versus waking the entire neo-natal unit.)

Crucially, as the boys grow up, whenever they do something to piss off their Dad/Papa, they are sure to blame it on ‘Their other dad’s genes”. Milo spent almost 10 minutes in the Sin Bin last game? “It’s those Rozanov genes.” Shane says with a shake of his head. Aaron’s boyfriend and girlfriend and boyfriend found out about each other? “You’re just like your Dad when he was your age.” Ilya says wiping a faux tear from his eye. It’s never funny to Milo and Aaron. It makes their parents piss themselves laughing Everytime.

[turboterminator777]

i fully believe if shane and ilya did surrogacy they would mix their cum together in the sample to compete for whose sperm is the strongest. they'll get to find out at birth whose genes won

[dorzyao3]

Shane Hollander was not a blushing maiden, darning socks, waiting for their betrothed to return from war (hooking up with randos from the club). He hooked up with other people sometimes, too! Men and women. It's in the book and the show. It just wasn't a priority for him bc he considered all that sex he had "bad" sex. Maybe it was, but also very possible he's biased! But he did consider the sex with Ilya "good" and that's why he made their hookups, and later relationship, a priority. Shane is very focused. Shane likes sex, but would not have considered bad sex a priority for other things he cared about more, like hockey or his career. In conclusion, Shane Hollander fucks, he just has very particular, high standards!!

[themoonandmyman]

I do maintain that prior to the Tuna Meltdown, Ilya had started moaning ‘Shane’ rather than ‘Hollander’ during his jerk off sessions.

Desperately fucking his fist, fucking his fleshlight and picturing Shane’s pretty little hole tight and hot and wet around him.

Closes his eyes and thrashes against the mattress and whispers in Russian ‘Fuck, Shane’, ‘So beautiful’, ‘perfect hole drives me crazy’

and that’s why Shane’s name slipped out so easily and so unbidden when he came on the couch…