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gusty-wind

reality-detective

Pumpkin seed milk for parasite cleansing 🤔

calder

vegans make peace with honey

no shut up do it

calder

vegans will pretend not to hear when natives tell them their agave products are unsustainable because they have whimsical feelings about, and i cannot stress this enough, the freedom of hive insects

Honey is literally murder but go off

kasaron

Prove it.

They literally puke their guts up to make your honey

kasaron

I have not seen any evidence tonsugges they are harmed or die in the process of production. They do regurgitate the nectar as part of the process to concentrate it into honey (an interesting process) but they do not suffer any injury during this process. If they did, the cost to produce honey, which is done naturally as a measure to survive over winter and through times of lower availability, would outweigh the benefits. If you kill several bees to produce enough honey to make one more bee, It makes no sense. Any animal that did that would die, even with human intervention.

Do you have any sources which suggest otherwise? I’d be interested to hear of this (relatively publicly available) information was false or misunderstood.

Bee farmers use whats called a honey maker. It’s a crude devices. It similar to a meat grinder. They force the bees in and grind them up. What comes out is a paste. That paste is later filtered into what we know as honey

hematite2

This is the funniest thing I’ve ever read

leonardo-nierman

@zoologicallyobsessed please show us pics of your bee grinder

gemstone-gynoid

they might be falsely thinking about a honey extractor machine. but all these do is you place the beehive frames inside and a motor rotates it at a speed that removes the honey, which is then tapped through a tap at the bottom.

darkenedyeastextract

…do they think they put bees in that and spin them around until they vomit…?

demonius-darkblade

bee carnival

yeah-yeah-beebiss-1

bad and naughty bees get put into the b e e c e n t r i f u g e to extract their honey

bastlynn

Vegans coming after beekeepers is one of my major teeth grinding annoyances. For many reasons, because there’s so many lies. And to go one step further because it’s such a waste. You see, the strongest vegan argument is that they don’t want to exploit animals or take from them without their consent.

… but… Bees consent. NO. I’M NOT KIDDING.

How? Bee hives aren’t kept on leashes. They’re outside, the bees can travel miles every day. They follow their queen. Who is also outside, not on a leash, and can travel miles every day. If she doesn’t like the hive for any reason - for example: it got too hot, too cold, too messy, too filled with sugary stuff and they need more space… then the queen leaves. And with her the hive.

The queen stays in the hive because the hive is the best place to live. Period. Done. End of. If the hive is staying with the beekeeper it’s because the keeper is doing their job correctly and keeping them happy because the bees can, and do, leave bad beekeepers.

Of all the animals we have domesticated as livestock, bees are the ones you can most easily argue are consenting participants in their keeping.

alicentsgf

mystical-mew

Here it is. The bee post is back

korrasera

I feel compelled to explain the misconception part for anyone who doesn’t know anything about beekeeping and finds any of this confusing. This might be a little redundant, but I’m scratching an itch.

Harvesting honey does not murder bees.

The device pictured above does not mash up bees or their hives.

There’s no ethical concern when it comes to eating honey, it’s totally ethical as food is concerned.

Bees manufacture honey using pollen. They store it in the cells of their hive, where it’s used as food for the colony, particularly the larvae growing into the next generation of bees.

When you harvest honey, you remove parts of the hive that are being used to store the honey, without taking any bees along for the ride. Those parts of the hive are then put into a device, like the centrifugal extractor shown above by gemstone-gynoid, where the parts are spun really fast to pull extract the honey. The honey gets collected on the walls of the extractor, drips down, and can then be filtered and bottled for human use.

So.

It turns out that bees love making honey and can make more of it than they’d ever need. It also turns out that beekeepers taking care of hives and harvesting their honey keeps bees healthy and thriving, more so than they’d normally accomplish on their own. And we really need bees healthy and thriving because they help us grow an astonishing amount of food by pollinating plants.

Like, there’s no need to have a conversation about this, anyone who claims that harvesting honey requires that you kill bees is lying. Either they don’t know anything about beekeeping and are just repeating a lie someone else told them, or they know that they’re lying and they’re just straight up trying to deceive people. Neither is a good look.

ariaste

And just one more point of clarification – “cells of the hive” doesn’t mean the anatomical cells of the bees’ bodies, it means the little holes in the honeycomb of the physical structure of the hives, which they build using beeswax. Think of it like a bee pantry. They put their honey in the pantry, but since they’re working hard every day, they often make wayyyyyy too much of it. So the beekeepers come along and take the extra honeycomb that the bees don’t need and aren’t going to use, but they leave plenty behind for the bees to eat. Additionally, if anything happens to the hive’s honey supplies in the winter, the beekeepers can supplement their food by either giving some honey back or giving them sugar water. Also, fun fact! When beekeepers extract the honey from the comb, they often leave all their equipment out afterwards so the bees can come along and clean up, re-collecting any traces of honey or wax left behind, which get put back into the hive and recycled. Any leftover waste (dirt and grime from old comb, for example, or bees that died natural deaths of old age) makes great fertilizer for the plants that produce the pollen the bees make next year. No waste!

Vegans, the bees are not going to stop making honey if they’re left to their own devices in the wild. The bees are just doing a thing that bees do. Eating honey is not exploitation, it’s sustainability. That said, if you’re still worried about the ethics, I’d recommend looking up some local beekeepers/honey farms in your area and reaching out to them for more education! I’ve known a lot of beekeepers that are really excited about doing education and outreach to teach people about the importance of pollinators, the partnership between bees and beekeepers, and the process of how honey is collected. Some honey farms will even give you a tour of their process so you can see in person how it’s made and that it’s not a harmful or exploitative process for the bees at all! (and of course eating local honey gives you an amazing connection to your local environment, both spiritually and physically?? like apparently eating local honey can help with seasonal allergies??? it’s really cool)

peoplegettingkindamadatfood

reality-detective

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the-davest-of-uncles

Yes we are coming for your guns, yes we will force you to surrender them. No, we don't care if your hands are warm or cold. Yes Kyle is a murderer.

Kid, if you had the courage to leave your room, you wouldn't have sent this anonymously. 🤣

modogoblin

ophilosoraptoro

Like a dog waiting for a treat

the-davest-of-uncles

blorbo from my shows

bourbonandcinnamon

Blorbo from my shoals

andthentheywilleatthestars

2014 Tumblr wasn’t about whatever Tik Tok thinks it was about. 2014 Tumblr was about overanalyzing Captain America: The Winter Soldier and that one website that let you play Cards Against Humanity online

andthentheywilleatthestars

And it slapped

taxfraudtutorials

Modern "punks" when you say anything that challenges the viewpoint fed to them by the establishment

direwolf-distributor

siryouarebeingmocked

I’ve even seen “anarchists” who said it’s okay to support the system when it does something right.

generallemarc

If a system is truly evil, it will never do the right thing for the right reasons. Individuals within it might, but never the overall group. For example, Russia is actively opposed to ISIS. Their bombers in Syria have often attacked them, and have definitely hurt their ability to project force and control territory. But its doing that because it wants Assad to stay in power, so even though the act itself is justified, supporting it would only further their evil ends.

important-animal-images

one-time-i-dreamt

Read more here:

"You are no longer licensed to use the software," Adobe told them.

awsomelink

Friendly reminder that GIMP does pretty much everything Photoshop does, and it’s 100% free. Fuck DRM and the license culture, we have plenty of open source options available to us as a consumer.

socialistexan

Lightworks is a freeware video editor on par with Premiere

Blender is an excellent freeware 3D renderer,possibly better than After Effects

Lightzone to replace Lightroom

Inkscape to replace Illustratr

Audacity to replace Audition (I also received a free version of Pro Tools with my Scarlett Solo audio interface)

If Adobe is going to be greedy shitheads, then fuck ‘em. Don’t use their stuff. Freeware can be just as good, if not better, than Adobe CC.

hopesterling

reblog to save a digital arts major

fallnangelcreations

Reblog to save an artist.

pen-scribbles

oh jEEZ

doomslug

I will keep saying this: GIMP sucks butts.

- Medibang Paint and Fire Alpaca for more cartoon style illustration

- Krita for painting

- Clip Studio Paint (not free, but often on sale and cheap even at full price) is better than PS for art and I’m about to cut adobe entirely. Even does some photo editing.

- Paint Tool SAI (again, not free but cheap) old but good, there’s a ton of hacked copies around too. Not hard to get for free.

- Open Tunez for animation.

dana-cz

I’m currently using Affinity Photo and it’s a great Photoshop alternative. One time fee only and it’s not really expensive, plus supports PSD formats. Free trial available too! Davinci Resolve for video editing is amazing as well! :)

bishonenrockmysocks

Another great art program to include in the list is the completely free, no download, browser recreation of photoshop, Photopea! It has the potential/customizability to be as robust as a full copy of photoshop while also being perfectly accessible to anyone looking to just do some quick edits with no strings attached.

Also, heads up to anyone using it,

As of July 5th 2021, Audacity is now considered a potential spyware security risk,

so please approach it with caution and do some research on the situation as things progress.

unsolids-your-snake

I’ve investigated the 2021 spyware claim on Audacity and it looks like it was due to an overly vague couple of statements made about data collection.

They’ve updated the policy to specify that this only means they do the same shit with your data as every other program, don’t send anything to law enforcement without being subpoenaed, don’t store your IP address, don’t know where you live or anything about you besides country and operating system, etc.

They could be lying, but so could anyone. Seems safe as anything else currently.

Since Audacity is open source, you can look for forks under different names that don’t collect data, as Audacity previously never did that.

catchymemes

cookingwithroxy

aaand i think I'm getting a good example of why I said 'discorse you didn't think of.'

cookingwithroxy

This is literally exactly my point tho, you know?

Because if a XY Boy drinks a potion and becomes and XX Girl, is that girl a 'Trans woman' or a 'Cis Woman'?

If you state that someone AMAB can never BE a Cis Woman, regardless of use of a literal magical solution that changes their entire biology? That's pretty transphobic.

But if they are recognized as their gender, and treated as such, there would be NO 'Trans' identity at all, because, yanno... Everything we hold as Trans right now has to do around the issues and concepts about gender that we've formed from NOT having access to perfect two copper magical cures.

thrown-away-opinions

It’s one of those “I don’t want a solution, I want to be MAD!!” situations. Same as all the wheelchair discourse.

You’re thinking about it in terms of problems and solutions. Seeing someone’s issues and thinking how they can be fixed, in this fictional scenario.

They’re looking at it like a fandom they are obsessed with that they can shove into everything they can get their hands on. They don’t even care what the words mean. They just want more stuff to have that fandom label smacked on it.

thecynicspensieve

the-davest-of-uncles

“Fault” makes it sound like an accident.

This was deliberate.

yokelfelonking

Nah, this one was a fuck-up. If it was deliberate it’d be all over the news with a bunch of talking heads saying “This is the fault of the Republicans and Donald Trump and global warming and it’s why we need to give the feds another trillion dollars in tax money and pass a ton of new legislation regulating this kind of thing to make sure this kind of tragedy never happens again” and then none of the money or the regulation actually goes to fix the problem.

thrown-away-opinions

The coverup and “Nothing to see here! Move along now!” handling of the situation is deliberate, but so many things had to go wrong in order for this sort of shit to happen, and pretty much all of it is the Government’s fault, whether knowingly or through sheet incompetence and willful negligence.

chaumas-deactivated20240115

I’ll never forget the time I was sitting with this guy, nice kid, didn’t know him well, I think we must have had a bottle of wine or some questionable hashish or something, and in response to an awkward silence I just started talking and ended up going on a long meandering rant about how ugly American robins are. I’m talking a full monologue. I had an intro and conclusion. It was pointlessly vehement. I have never been so mean or loquacious about anything in my life.

Consider my horror when this perfectly nice guy wordlessly lifted his shirt to reveal a full-torso prismacolor tattoo of his spiritual soul animal, the American robin.

kohlrabisabi

Their scientific name sounds like "Migrating Turd" but otherwise I find them charming if fairly derpy and mundane. I don't know if I'd get a tattoo of one though. They're like the potato of American birds.

chaumas-deactivated20240115

I have no actual animosity towards them. They’re fine. I like them. They remind me if my college roommate and beloved friend. I don’t know why I said any of that—I was grasping at straws for something kind of provocative to say and failed so catastrophically that I was catapulted into a Seinfeld skit.

oldbooksmellhuffer

eerily similar to the time in college someone tried to make conversation by making fun of a silly book a former high school teacher of theirs had written only for me to just pull out a physical copy of the exact book because i’d realized he was talking about my dad

chaumas-deactivated20240115

the foot seeks the mouth like leaves seek the sun