Thinking about how like at least 70% of the plot of MDZS wouldn't have happened if people stopped pushing Meng Yao down staircases

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Thinking about how like at least 70% of the plot of MDZS wouldn't have happened if people stopped pushing Meng Yao down staircases
wei wuxian is such a lesson in contradiction like he's so nice he's a jerk he's so smart he's very naive he's friends with everyone nobody likes him he's the best cultivator alive he can't use a sword he's a whore he's a virgin he's lazy he'll work for days without sleep he's so calm under pressure his temper is atrocious his ego is massive he has no self worth he's dead he's alive he's a saint he's a monster he's a victim he's a villain he's a great teacher he's a terrible student he's a charmer he's so so annoying he saves everyone's asses he's the reason they're in this mess he's a brother but not really he's a son but not really he's a father but not really he's a sect leader with no sect he's so selfish he puts everyone before himself he made so many choices there was nothing else he could have done like no wonder it's so difficult for people to understand him he's literally everything
Sometimes I think of how much better off JGY would have been if he hadn’t succeeded in saving NMJ’s life when NMJ was captured, if he killed WRH but NMJ was too injured and died of his wounds
It’s honestly upsetting
#honestly there IS one way for jgy to win in the cultivation world and is by being as murdery as people accuse him of being (via @cqlfeels)
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Can't stop thinking about the fact that the cultivation world is obsessed with Wen Ning because of his power– It's what made them scared of Wei Wuxian, what made the Jin try for years to replicate his research– while completely ignoring what truly made him exceptional: his personhood.
Wei wuxian's got other powerful weapons. Wen Nin is special because he's sentient and has free will. He was not meant to be a weapon. Every single thing that makes him useful as one– his rage, his exceptional strength, the fact that he can be influenced or controlled by Wei Wuxian under certain circumstances– are unintentional and detrimental (downright catastrophic in the case of Zixuan's death) side effects to the actual goal.
Yet every single replication attempt by copycats is focused precisely on those side effects, and on eliminating the real goal of Wei Wuxian's research: a fierce corpse that is fully conscious and autonomous.
Now I wonder if it took Xue Yang so long to replicate the feat, even with Wei Wuxian's notes, not just because they were nigh indecipherable. But because all of the notes on Wen Ning were focused on precisely the opposite goal Xue Yang was trying to reach.
"I did it for you" has gotta be my favorite form of betrayal. You gave me a gift I never asked for, and now I have to look around at the world you destroyed with the knowledge that it was gift wrapped and addressed to me.
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Two Beers and a Puppy test: Lan Xichen
I would have two beers with him and let him look after my puppy. 🍻🐕
I would have two beers with him, but not let him look after my puppy. 🍻
I would let him look after my puppy, but not have two beers with him. 🐕
I would not do either of these things. 🚫
From this post: In order to find out how you actually feel about someone, ask yourself: "Would I have two beers with this person?" And: "Would I allow this person to look after my puppy over a weekend?"
(If you or the character in question doesn't drink beer, replace "two beers" with a the casual excuse-for-companionship beverage of your choosing.)
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Me too, jc. Me too.
How to tell if you're in a historical Chinese drama:
(Inspired by this classic!)
Someone offends you unforgivably by calling you by your actual name.
You are preparing for a bloody battle in the rain. Your boots are made of exquisitely embroidered silk duchesse.
Everyone you know is god-tier beautiful. You ignore this.
Significant tea is being poured.
Your soulmate tells you in plain words that they love you. You comically misunderstand what they said, and will keep doing so, because the plot is not over yet.
The only thing more elaborate than the villain's cunning plan is the engineering of your man-bun.
Duels are scored like gymnastics routines. To beat your opponent, try a triple-twisting double tucked salto.
You have been married for thirty years. You have never seen your spouse's wrist.
Sometimes peasants and servants are killed horribly in front of you. It's a normal part of life. The other peasants will presumably take care of the practicalities, such as burial and being upset.
Any injury, including a broken nail, makes you vomit blood.
The year is 400 AD. French tips have been invented.
You're on a moon bridge and you are yearning.
Dude you forgot falling off the cliff at 0.25 speed. That's like the most important one
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Lan Wangji
me when i first started watching cdramas: woah the sets are so beautiful
me watching cdramas now: hey, i know that street. hey, i know that temple. hey, i know that courtyard. hey, i know that gate. hey, i know that tree
Someone pitch a c drama where the plot is just that two producers double booked hengdian studios for their new high budget wuxia dramas and now they're fighting over the sets
There's only one bed set
Actors get halfway through a fight scene before they realize they’re from different shows.
What is THE chengxian quote?
YEAH BABY.
So, canon quote: “As long as we both live in the world, we’re bound to meet somehow”. Yes, Wei Wuxian, tell me more about this sense of inevitability that ties you to Jiang Cheng. I’m all ears!
And, for the non-canon, I’ve got two!
The first is this uncomparable Wuthering Heights (the whole book is a Chengxian AU, basically) quote, which I really feel encapsules their VibesTM: “They said I killed you - haunt me, then! The murdered do haunt their murderers, I believe. I know that ghosts have wandered on earth. Be with me always - take any form - drive me mad! Only do not leave me in this abyss, where I cannot find you!”.
And the other is this one: “I loved her (him) to the point of invention”. Need I say more?
Sometimes I wonder what Jiang Cheng could've become if his parents didn't instill a mix of "crippling fear of failure" and "impossibly high standards" in him. Cuz like, his dad was holding him to the vague standard of being as good as wwx, his mom yelling at him whenever he goofed around like wwx, and then both of them expressed disappointment when he's less successful than wwx. The thing both of them seem to ignore though is that wwx got where he is entirely because he had the freedom to fuck around and find out- he trained tirelessly because he made training fun for himself, he was innovative as a cultivators because he experimented and persisted through failures, and he was able to act in line with the Jiang clan moto because his actions had less political pull than members of the main family. Jiang Cheng on the other hand- if he fucked around he got told to "stop stooping to the level of servants." If his achievements were lesser than wwx's, he got either dismissed by his dad or yelled at by his mom to try harder. And if he picked fights with the Wens, they'd have an excuse to destroy his clan. Like ya- no shit that'd create an adult who's terrified of failure.
The kite game serves as such a good metaphor/embodiment of this set back- with Jiang Cheng never being able to shoot as far as Wei Wuxian because he pulls back and shoots closer the second he misses.
And its sad too because he's shown to be pretty brilliant when he's in "fuck it, we ball" mode. Like, when he's not freezing up, he manages to pull off things like rebuilding his entire clan from the ground up, leading armies and taking back territories from the Wens, and I'm fairly sure he's the only character we see counter the Lan music cultivation techniques (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that last one. Also feel free to add any of the other cool shit he did that I'm blanking on at the moment, cuz I know I'm forgetting something).
That being said- even with his anxiety, he's still one of the top cultivators. Imagine what a force of nature he'd be if he could sustain "fuck it we ball" mode
What's fascinating here is his dad didn't actually hold him to the standard of being as good as Wei Wuxian, in the sense of like. Accomplishments.
That was Yu Ziyuan's hangup, which Jiang Cheng pretty naturally wound up acting on in his father's direction as though if he just Performed Well Enough it would solve things. But there's no evidence that Jiang Fengmian would have behaved any differently if it was Jiang Cheng who was the genius and Wei Wuxian merely very good, or even if Wei Wuxian had been as incapable as Jiang Yanli.
Because his favoritism hinged on 1) who he liked as a person and 2) who seemed to actually need his protection. (Also 3 who thrived in response to his parenting style, which wasn't even really favoritism it just had the same effect.)
Jiang Cheng's father does not seem to have demanded or expected he do any better than he did, as a cultivator or scholar or any of that, or to have been disappointed in him in that regard. He did take his accomplishments for granted, in an 'of course a-cheng is succeeding' way that isn't great parenting, but wouldn't by itself have been very harmful.
No, Jiang Cheng's dad held him to the standard of being 'as good as Wei Wuxian' ethically.
Which was still a whole can-of-worms unfair in a lot of ways, because Wei Wuxian's tendency to act recklessly on his principles that Jiang Fengmian encouraged is damn stupid a lot of the time, and it is very often quite difficult to tell whether Jiang Cheng not doing that is 'common sense' or 'being a prick.' Sometimes it's both. Often, even.
That time in the Xuanwu cave, when Lan Wangji and Jin Zixuan both refused to step aside and let Wen Chao take Mianmian, and Wei Wuxian tried to get involved and Jiang Cheng held him back--that was a really difficult situation. Jiang Cheng cannot be said to have been wrong; his concerns were well-founded and he had reason to see himself as the person responsible for making the politically sound calls.
He was, however, prioritizing his own interests and the protection of his own people over any sort of broader moral principle. And his father prefers the broad principle.
His father goes on to run headlong into a battle that was already lost, and die pointlessly.
There is exactly one moment where we see Jiang Fengmian breaking Jiang Cheng's heart in real time, besides when he runs off to die. It's when Wei Wuxian wakes up having been rescued from the turtle cave, and Jiang Fengmian comes and says completely appropriate supportive things by his bedside.
And Jiang Cheng, who has also been through a grueling emotional ordeal and also pushed himself as hard as he could and succeeded, is overwhelmed with jealousy. Because he only ran for help unarmed through enemy territory, he didn't kill a legendary monster. He only got in his first deadly fight with other human beings, he didn't come within a hair of physically dying from his wounds.
And his father may or may not have acknowledged his suffering and accomplishments at all, but if he did it wasn't enough, it wasn't like this; he didn't find it emotionally fulfilling.
And it's impossible to say how much of that was because Wei Wuxian overshadowed him by being more impressive and actively in more danger, and how much of it was because his father just...isn't as emotionally invested in him.
(And for that matter to what extent it's because Jiang Cheng's unfulfilled need for validation is so severe at this point almost anything would leave him wanting. This is a big issue in relationships of all kinds but especially parenting; by the time a problem becomes obvious the reasonable actions that could have prevented it developing are no longer sufficient to resolve it.)
So he lashes out about it, and gets a technically appropriate ethics lecture that is incredibly unhelpful wrt the actual problem. Wei Wuxian tries to jump in and redirect the conversation, because this is a pattern of communication fail he can recognize, although he's as helpless as anyone else to actually fix it.
And then Yu Ziyuan comes in. And most of what she says is demonstrably wrong. And none of it is kind to Jiang Cheng, because she is never kind to Jiang Cheng. But she pulls very hard for Wei Wuxian's heroic impulse being wrong, and therefore Jiang Cheng's caution being right.
This backhanded validation doesn't stop Jiang Cheng from being ashamed of his own priorities under fire, any more than being ashamed of it allows him to be the sort of person who doesn't worry about consequences. It's something, so of course part of him clings to it.
But at the same time, he can't fully believe it; Wei Wuxian being better than him is true enough that he can taste the denial through even heavy doses of anger.
Years later, when Wei Wuxian has put him in a shitty position by murdering fellow cultivators to steal POWs and he's been woken up from the first actual night's sleep he's gotten in weeks to deal with it, and he hates. That moment is in continuity with this moment, in Wei Wuxian's bedroom, probably one of the last times his whole family was in the same room together, all of them displaying their personal ways of failing him.
The Jiang Cheng who turned on Wei Wuxian and called for his death is the same person as the Jiang Cheng who fell to his knees and begged his mother not to maim Wei Wuxian. He's just one person. But he's also fighting himself so much of the time.
Which brings us to the crux of why, I think, he has such a self-doubt and freezing problem.
Jiang Cheng's self-sabotage is only partly because his parents' expectations were too high; it's also because his parents gave him standards to live up to that contradict one another. He cannot perform to both standards at once. He will always be failing one of them.
And he loves them both, and he respects them both, except when he doesn't, and his mother is crueler and more unreasonable but she's also the one who is at least in principle on his side, and who went around grouping them together rhetorically when picking fights with his dad, so his identity is heavily inflected by his consciousness of himself as her son.
But of course being his father's son is also an enormous part of his identity, it's basically legally mandated.
He has to choose whose value system to prioritize every single time he makes a call with any emotional or moral weight. Of course he suffers from paralysis!
When he and Wei Wuxian are acting in concert, he's mostly his father's son. His mother's influence is always visible, but when he's acting as half of that pair and feeling secure in that relationship, he knows himself in the context of Yunmeng Jiang and its values, and is less likely to second-guess himself. This is the happiest form of Jiang Cheng, even though it's never free from the poison of his insecurity, of remembering how Wei Wuxian is more worthy of love than him, is better at being this thing they are both trying to become.
Similarly, when he turns firmly against Wei Wuxian, he's acting as his mother's son and cleaving primarily to her principles, even though his father's are never absent from him; this too allows him to act without hesitation and second-guessing. He throws himself into the narrative frame Yu Ziyuan put on their family, and in many ways it sucks, but at least under its terms he's entitled to put himself first and not hold back.
Like you say, op, he's extremely effective in this mode; unfortunately in he's also definitely more harmful to himself and everyone around him.
So it's not just that Jiang Cheng holds himself back as a result of doubt; even when he picks a side he's impairing his own access to the character traits bound up in the other self-narrative.
I think in some ways despite how horrible it was, the war was the most emotionally straightforward period of Jiang Cheng's life; it was a situation where he could bring all his strengths to bear on the problems before him. All his wrath and all his loyalty, all his pride and all his honor, brought to bear on a single point.
And his parents were dead, so they couldn't tell him he was doing it wrong.
mdzs au where instead of giving jiang cheng his whole golden core, wei wuxian gets to keep half. everything is normal except they’re both kinda mediocre now and jiang cheng can feel it in his prostate when wei wuxian gets railed by lan wangji