#missed potential

[flameswiftly]

popular girl x loser dork, it’s so gooddddd ❤️

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So after watching Cartoonshi's recent video about the NSA Files from The Incredibles, and seeing many other people's thoughts on one particular part, I also agree that if Incredibles 3 ever happens, Gamma Jack needs to be the villain.

He has genuine potential to be a great villain and could easily be among Pixar's best.

Among the likes of Randall, Stinky Pete, Hopper, Lotso, and yes, even Syndrome himself.

However, I figured that bring this up first.

Recently I've been seeing people on this site saying that Jack wasn't evil and complaining about the newgens (whatever the fuck that is) claiming to him to be a villain.

Here's the thing....

While yes, Jack wasn't a villain, his NSA File makes it pretty clear he wasn't a good guy either.

From the way he talks, he definitely comes off like a total narcissist.

Not to mention the multiple facts that were revealed from his interview and file.

-He's a womanizer and a massive horndog. So much so that when facing female supervillains, he can barely bring himself to take them down.

-He generally saves attractive women first and whittles his way down the list in terms of attractiveness. Implying that he's possibly caused the deaths of innocent people before.

-Speaking of which, he pretty open about how he actually kills people and dead-ass considers civilian deaths "collateral damage".

-He's prone to tyrannical and megalomaniacal impulses.

-He considers Supers a superior race.

As you can see, while Jack may've not been a full-on villain, he had the makings to become one!

And even The NSA knew so, as it's stated that they closely monitored him.

When people say that Jack is literally Homelander, they're not lying.

But he's also kinda like Magneto, given how they both view their respective species as being superior to humans.

The only difference is that he doesn't have a tragic backstory and he has a much bigger ego and superiority complex.

I know many people are gonna bring up that he was terminated by the second Omnidroid.

But remember, Bob managed to evade being detected by Syndrome!

Plus as shown on his file, Jack is very intelligent.

So there's a chance that Jack managed to survive and escaped Nomanisan Island.

That would be the set-up for Incredibles 3, being the reveal that Jack wasn't killed by The Omnidroid.

And his goal is the start a Supers revolution and either take over the world or wipe out all humanity.

The reason why: Jack eventually stumbled upon the Kronos file and saw that all of his fellow Supers were killed.

His reaction would be along the lines of this.....

But that's not all.

He also found the NSA Files, which Syndrome had gotten his hands on.

And upon seeing all this, Jack believes that the government is trying to wipe out all Supers and that it's time to stand up.

But he's not alone.

It turns out he wasn't the only one who survived The Omnidroid.

There were three other survirors.

Those being Blazestone, Hypershock and Psycwave.

Who, after they were founded by Jack, were shown Kronos and we're immediately onboard with his plan.

Now this plan can go one of the three ways.

1#) Jack and his crew tries to revive their fallen comrades and have them join their revolution. I mean, given that mad scientists do exist in the world of The Incredibles and how bringing back stuff from dead is what they do, this shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

2#) They're trying to create a special device that will essentially amplify their powers to even greater levels in order to be essentially unstoppable.

3#) Jack and his crew try indoctrinating the new generation of Supers for their cause.

Either of these options I think could work really well, particularly 1# and 3#.

In the case of 1#, this version would see Gazerbeam playing a huge role in the story.

And it would led to an interesting conflict.

If you've seen his deleted funeral scene from Incredibles 2, it was shown he was spent most of his life as a societal outcast.

But he eventually found a place among the Supers.

And when Supers went into hiding, Gazerbeam greatly struggled with it due to him, once again, being an outcast.

The conflict would essentially be whether Gazerbeam would will join Jack and his revolution or not.

On one hand, Gazerbeam doesn't want to be alone again.

But on the other hand, he was one of the best and morally-just heroes during The Glory Days, so he definitely wouldn't be down for.......

Meanwhile with #3, I could see this version putting a greater focus on Violet and Dash.

It would make sense given how the first film was focused on Bob and the second film was focused on Helen.

I'd like to imagine that Incredibles 3 would take place after a short time-skip.

4 years to be exact.

Violet would now be an adult: 18 years old.

And Dash would be a teenager: 14 years old.

As for why Jack would want them and the new generation of Supers for his revolution.

Well think about this.

Jack and his gang would be right around the same age Bob, Helen and Lucius.

And with this time-skip, they would all be about 44.

While they're all still legitimate forces to be reckon with, I think it's safe to say that these guys wouldn't be quite as powerful as were in their prime.

So in that case, why not have an army of younger Supers who are either nearing or already at the peak of their power?

Either one of these plots I think could work really well.

And even then, they're a lot of other cool things Incredibles 3 could do.

Like going more into depth about The Glory Days and even giving some context on particular aspects.

For example, it's kinda funny to think that it took Bob accidentally injuring people while stopping a runaway train and saving a man in the midst of a suicide attempt for the public to turn against Supers while Jack here was getting people frequently killed due to his own perverted nature or apathy.

And not just him.

The three other Supers i just mentioned that would be joining him aren't much better either.

Blazestone was originally a criminal, then got rehabilitated and became a hero, and then fell off the bandwagon and a became a criminal again.

Not only that, but I also heard that she may or may not be an arsonist.

Hypershock had an incredibly bad temper and often needed praise in order to calm him down.

So he's probably a narcissist as well.

He also was an alcoholic, which given his power of seismic wave generation, sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's gotten multiple people injured or even killed!

Not to mention how much property damage he's potentially caused.

And Psycwave......

Good God this woman.....

Psycwave has stated that she actively took over the minds of multiple guys before in order to have them go out with her, including the boyfriend of her BEST FRIEND!

And the fact that she looks back at this with a smile and chuckle is genuinely unhinged behavior.

If Jack is a textbook psychopath, then Psycwave is a textbook sociopath.

And given that she has no qualms about taking over the minds and bodies of others for her own personal gain, it really leads to the terrifying implications of what else she's done.

She could very well be the super-powered version of P. Diddy!

I'd like to imagine that thanks to these four clowns, the public opinion on Supers started to degrade.

And what Bob did was essentially the last straw, given that he was one of the most revered, respected and trusted of the Supers.

As a result of their attics and personalities, I could imagine that they all ended up become social pariahs among their fellow Supers.

And rightfully so.

I can also see Blazestone and Lucius having so really good back-and-forth during the confrontations.

Remember, they were once partners (and possibly a couple).

Blazestone lowkey wanting to get back together with Lucius, who has to keep reminding her that he's a married man now!

And lastly, I could see Jack serving as a good contrast to Bob.

Like Bob, Jack probably longed for The Glory Days as well.

However, their reasons why are very different.

As stated on his NSA File, one of Bob's powers besides mega strength and durability is the ability to sense imminent danger.

I was admittedly confused by this at first, but after seeing some retrospectives, I realized that it was essentially slightly more cracked-out Spider Sense, with Bob being able to detect danger in a pretty big radius.

This really contextualizes his mid-life crisis, as he basically has a natural stranger danger alert constantly going off in his head.

And despite having the power to do something about it, he legally couldn't.

No wonder why he was so miserable.

If I had something like that, I'd probably go insane.

As he seen in the office scene when the mugging was happening outside, the movie makes it clear that Bob genuinely wants to the help the guy getting mugged.

Overall, the reason why Bob wanted to be a hero again was because he genuinely loved helping those in need, similar to the two characters that inspired his creation: Superman and Captain America.

Whereas with Jack, he most definitely didn't care about helping the innocent.

He only really cared about the glory, the fame and the attention from the ladies.

Incredibles 3 could also showcase the past relationship between Bob and Jack.

It was shown in the Gazerbeam deleted scene, that they were close friends, alongside Lucius and the aforementioned Gazerbeam.

Which already sounds strange given everything we know about Jack.

But maybe once upon ago, Jack was a genuine hero.

But he let the fame, the glory and even his own power corrupt his mind.

As a result, his friendship with Bob, Lucius and Gazerbeam went down the drain.

And so did his reputation among the Supers.

And then eventually, the general public

I think the main theme of Incredibles 3 could be what it means to truly be a hero.

With Bob (along with his family and friends) representing what true heroes are like, whereas Jack and his gang don't.

And just to really drive it home, here's what I think Jack would look like.

He would still be wearing his old hero suit, which would be depicted as ragged and tattered.

Despite being in his mid-40s, he would look notably older than that (like he's in his mid-50s).

And he would balding with a horrible comb-over.

Essentially, whereas Bob (along with Helen and Lucius) look like aged legends, Jack would look like a washed-up has-been.

[theknucklehead]

Apparently there was an art book for Treasure Planet calked "A Voyage to Discovery", sadly it's not available to buy anymore and copies online go for $2000. There is a sight that does let you read through it, so if you get the chance it's worth checking out.

There is just so much interesting information about the making of the movie, as well as commentary on the characters that you wouldn't know just from face value.

It really is a shame this movie didn't do well when it originally released because there was so much potential for this to be a franchise.

[aykean]

2D animation jumpscare. Not a great animation, i did in 1h and a half, just to try out the funtion on procreate. I tried yo animate Yrhen in the concept art style but we were robbed :c I still need to used to the style but maybe i'll try to clean a animation to see how the show would have look if yrhen didn't have tha "ankama girl" same face syndrome

[withdevovotion]

i know this has been said 100 times but i really do wish eddie had met argyle. i think the experience of argyle listening to metal while high and eddie also being like off his head on purple palm tree delight couldve been so funny….they would’ve had a back and forth conversation nobody could even begin to make sense of 

and might i add. high eddie munson couldve also given us a hysterical steddie scenario

[qwacktrap]

So do yall remember when Inklings were initially gonna be rabbits?

Why didn't they bring them back for return of the mammalians? Like, they could have so easily replaced the fuzzy octolings...

Along with the fuzzy octolings, me and a friend are discussing possible ideas for other "mammalian" enemy types that could've taken the place of the octarians. So if yall are interested in seeing that lmk and we'll try sharing more in the future.

Like what you see? My commissions are open!

[numberonemovielover2008]

Ok I just want to talk about something I’ve been thinking about for a while and that is the different interpretations of the whole Oswald/Ed/Isabella plot line in season 3. Now when this plot line happened, there were a lot of fans angry because it caused conflict between Oswald and Ed and felt like a giant middle finger to Nygmobblepot shippers.

But for me personally, I had a very different interpretation to how most people viewed this storyline. I always thought this storyline was not trying to say “oh, Oswald and Ed can never be together”, I thought it was trying to show the complexities of falling in love when you are a psychotic villain like these two.

Because no matter what anyone says, Oswald’s love for Ed was genuine. Even if he did awful things to make Ed reciprocate, it’s obvious that Ed meant something meaningful to him.

After all, if it was just purely obsession, he probably wouldn’t have gone to the lengths he did to save Ed when Lee stabbed him. Does this whole Isabella plot line show a lot of toxicity? Yes, a lot of it lol. But I always thought it was a storyline supposed to show how Oswald and Ed are fucked up soulmates.

That despite everything they do to each other, they always find a way back in each other’s lives. Sort of like star crossed lovers, but with murderers.

I feel like “How the Riddler Got His Name” really backs up this interpretation because why would Ed hallucinate Oswald singing seductively if there wasn’t some repressed feelings there? I always thought that even if Ed hated him, there was always a part of him that will harbour some sort of love towards him.

If Oswald didn’t mean that much to Ed, he would have never spiraled as hard as he did in that episode. But he did, and I don’t think that was on accident.

However, while I thought that this was what the storyline was supposed to represent narratively, I feel like the writers had a different idea of what this storyline was supposed to be, mainly with it being about how Oswald can never be with anyone because he’s selfish. And yes, that was clearly a theme in that arc but I thought that was something he had to overcome, not a thesis on his character. It seems like the entire point of that arc was to show why Oswald will always be alone.

His Sofia crush plot line in season 4 also carried those same themes. But like… why? Why can Barbara Kean, who always has her own agenda and puts herself before others, have multiple romance plot lines but apparently Oswald can’t? Why, because he’s too selfish? I think that’s kind of bullshit lol.

I don’t get why the writers had this obsession with not wanting Oswald to be happy. Do they have a gripe with Robin Lord Taylor or something (lol I’m just kidding but you got wonder why)? Because I don’t understand why for some reason, Oswald seems to be the only character denied the opportunity to be in a meaningful relationship. It’s just kind of strange, especially because him and Ed did have such great chemistry.

[crisshex88]

The Character 9-1-1 Let Slip Away (And Why I’d Trade Him Back in a Heartbeat)

EDIT: I admit I wrote this two weeks ago and that my opinion of Ravi is changing slightly. That said, I stand by what I said about Albert and am posting the article anyway.

Sometimes, “They Deserved Better” isn’t just about a storyline.

It’s about a character.

A character who had everything: pot

#tvmeta

#unpopular opinion

ential, emotional depth, connections — and yet somehow got lost along the way.

Today, I want to talk about one of those characters in 9-1-1.

Because if there’s one name that perfectly fits this category, for me, it’s Albert Han.

Albert Han: The Potential That Was Actually There

Let’s start from the beginning.

Albert Han enters the show in Season 3, becomes more prominent in Season 4, appears as a recurring character afterward… and then disappears.

And that still doesn’t make sense to me.

From the moment he showed up, Albert felt like a character with a clear direction.

His story wasn’t random.

It was layered.

He was the younger half-brother of Howard "Chimney" Han, someone who had grown up without a real relationship with Chim, yet actively chose to build one.

And that alone already gave him something important:

emotional purpose.

Then came his decision to become a firefighter — inspired by Chim, just like Chim had once been inspired by Kevin.

That parallel?

Beautiful.

That kind of narrative symmetry is exactly what makes a character feel like they belong in a story.

Integration Matters — And Albert Had It

Albert didn’t just exist in Chim’s orbit.

He integrated.

He built relationships.

He connected with the group.

His dynamic with Evan "Buck" Buckley is one of the clearest examples.

It wasn’t forced.

It wasn’t superficial.

It felt natural.

He even lived with Buck for a while, creating that sense of found family that 9-1-1 does so well.

And when Buck was struck by lightning?

Albert was there.

Present. Worried. Invested.

That’s what makes a character matter.

And Then There’s Ravi…

Now, this is where my take might get a little controversial.

Because this isn’t about the actor.

This is strictly about the character.

Ravi Panikkar has been in the show since Season 4.

And yet…

What do we really know about him?

A childhood illness.

A few scattered traumatic moments.

And that’s pretty much it.

There’s no real backstory development.

No consistent emotional arc.

No real layering.

And that’s strange — because 9-1-1 is a show that usually excels at giving its characters depth.

Even side characters often get full emotional exploration.

But Ravi?

He’s remained, for the most part, a background presence.

When a Character Feels Like Filler

The problem isn’t that Ravi exists.

The problem is how he’s used.

Too often, he feels like a character who’s there to fill space.

To complete a scene.

To add a line.

To be “the extra person in the room.”

Even his more dramatic moments — the traumas, the struggles — feel isolated.

They don’t build into something bigger.

They don’t shape a long-term journey.

And now, it feels like the show is trying to give him relevance by pairing him with May.

Not because it makes sense.

But because:

He’s single.

She’s single.

And that’s… convenient.

But that’s not how you build meaningful characters.

Albert vs. Ravi: A Missed Opportunity

This is where my biggest frustration comes in.

Because Albert was already there.

Already developed.

Already integrated.

Already connected to the emotional core of the show.

And yet he was written out — partly due to external circumstances, yes — but in a way that never truly closed the door.

He didn’t die.

He didn’t disappear permanently.

He left.

Which means he could come back.

And honestly?

He should.

Because Albert had something Ravi still doesn’t:

a solid emotional foundation.

The Story That Could Have Been

I’ll go even further.

Back then, I actually saw potential for Albert and May Grant.

Not as an instant romance.

But as a slow build.

Friendship first.

Connection.

Growth.

They were close in age, both navigating their own paths, both tied to the 118 in different ways.

It could have been something meaningful.

Something organic.

Instead, we’re now watching dynamics that feel rushed, surface-level, and ultimately forgettable.

The Core Issue: Writing, Not Actors

I want to be very clear about something.

This is not about disliking actors.

This is about writing.

Because sometimes, characters fail not because they’re bad…

But because they’re never truly given the chance to exist.

Albert was given that chance — and proved it worked.

Ravi wasn’t — and still hasn’t.

The Trade I’d Make Instantly

If I had the choice?

I wouldn’t hesitate.

I’d trade Ravi for Albert in a heartbeat.

Because one of them had a future in the story.

And the other still feels like he’s trying to find a place in it.

Your Turn

This is my “They Deserved Better.”

But I’m curious.

Where do you stand?

Are you Team Albert?

Or Team Ravi?

And more importantly — do you think the show missed a real opportunity here?