what is detransition kink, and why does our response matter?
a public service announcement about a worrying niche fetish subculture targeting those exploring detransition/desistance that is growing by the day.
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what is detransition kink, and why does our response matter?
a public service announcement about a worrying niche fetish subculture targeting those exploring detransition/desistance that is growing by the day.
Ā read on mediumĀ | archive
so tired of seeing comics, story times, ect of women saying they weren't allowed to have short hair growing up or to wear clothes that weren't made specifically for girls because their parents believed women couldn't have those things, and then they finally had the chance to do it.... and now they aren't women, they're nonbinary or trans masc. Like you really are just like your parents, huh?
" girls don't look like that " - parents
"you are right" - the non binary daughter
please y'all this is the funniest thing I've ever made
I know this is a meme, but I feel like there is a genuine reason behind this
Autistic women and girls, especially ssa ones, have a tendency to be gender non-conforming for a variety of reasons (beauty rituals are complicated and uncomfortable for one). At the same time, we also tend to overthink things and are taught as kids to mask and people please. So, thereās really only two responses to alleviate the distress of being constantly told that weāre doing girlhood/womanhood wrong.
āMaybe Iām not actually a girl if I keep breaking the rules of being a girl. If Iām not actually a girl, then I can dress and act however I want without being wrong.ā
āFuck patriarchy and gender roles. I can dress and act however I want and itās not wrong because not following the rules doesnāt make me any less of a girl.ā
Thatās my take anyway š¤·š»āāļø
I want to thank my armpit hair for making sure my underarms are protected, never irritated from chafing against my sides, and for making sure my sweat has a way to slowly perspire instead of drenching down my body.
I want to thank my leg hair for keeping my legs cozy and protected from all kinds of little bugs that try to crawl up them when Iām in nature. You also protect me from the direct sun and my legs love having that.
I want to thank my pubic hair for keeping my private parts well protected, shielded from view or impact, keeping me cozy and protected from chafing and irritation.
My thigh hair as well, thank you for making sure my thighs donāt chafe!
And finally, to my stomach hair, thank you for being in a visible and easily available spot where I can play and fiddle with you when Iām bored. We are all so cozy and happy together.
oh no how dare a woman age
yea i feel like that too. i think i can speak for many suicidal girls when i say one factor of considering suicide as a lowkey option even when things arent going horrible, is that we simply cannot picture ourselves happy at 35, 50, 60 etc. and we believe this means were not supposed to live that long. but truth is its a symptom of being socialized female.
The lack of sympathy in the notes is terrifying. I know that how secure I am in myself is partly because I spend so much time around much older Butch women on a regular basis. Before that, I also had know idea what my future would look like, I could barely imagine it because I never saw older Black Butch women. Not in my day to day life, not in media, barely even in books. At this same time I also was identifying as trans. Being in a hyper feminine industry probably doesn't help her either.
an actual slide i was shown in class
Homosexual identity does not exist but gender identity does? How does that work?
āto avoid artificial conceptions of a master-statusā aka those uppity homosexuals are getting a little too comfortable and exclusionary thinking words have meanings, they must think theyāre better than us
āMen are taught not to share their feelings isnāt that so sadā I donāt know what dimension youāre from but the men here on earth will immediately let you know theyāre upset or angry by taking it out on everyone around them
wait this is so true. Men think their anger is a perfectly rational product of their objective assessment of reality... whereas women are taught to constantly second-guess if their feelings are valid or if they're just overreacting.
gay men who donāt acknowledge trans men as actual men
lesbians who donāt acknowledge trans women as actual women
transphobia in the queer community
transphobia
chansgenders making their 321,091st thinly veiled post about not getting any ass from gay people and pretend its about human rights
Where is this energy towards heterosexuals? Why is it only ever aimed at homosexuals?
homosexuals just trying to fucking live while being told by both conservatives and āprogressive leftistsā their same sex attraction is inherently wrong and they should go through conversion therapy to āfix themselvesā
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Isnāt it interesting how gay people will talk about how we wish we didnāt have to go through questioning and all that, and we wish we couldāve just had the straight experience of our sexuality just being thereā¦but straight trans people often express the opposite?
Itās so weird to see them crying over how they never got to discover their sexuality as a gay man would, never got to come out as a gay man the way gay men do (experience homophobia), etc. When gay men will often express how they wish they didnāt have to go through that. Theyāre fetishising a gay experience that gay people donāt even enjoy.
āEDUCATE yourselfā girl i have read every page of your pamphlet backwards and forwards. i can explain every aspect of your beliefs back to you, in exactly the terms youād use, with all the layers of nuance youād be so careful to include. believe it or not, it is possible to be an informed apostate.
āAll our previously existing numbers say should abate over timeā are you referring to the 80% desistance rate? Iām guessing youāve seen the new study that came out which had a desistance rate of 2.5%. Do you have misgivings about the study? Iām still trying to take in all the information available and am not really on any āside.ā Interested in your thoughts.
I think this is a pretty good question! I know there are a lot of qualms with the 85% figure I see tossed around a lot or at least with the research methods used to get the 85%, but I do think we have several clues that the desistance rate among people who don't receive an intervention of any kind must be quite high, over a long enough period of time.
Firstly, I think that anyone who's spent significant time with children should feel pretty comfortable making the claim that the number of children who insist on anything extraordinary about themselves as children, even to the point of actively growing upset when questioned on it, is in almost any instance going to be much much smaller than the number of them who grow into adults who still insist that thing about themselves well into adulthood. I think a lot of people find the "my three year old says he's a firefighter" comparisons, etc, to be trivializing, and that makes sense from an adult perspective, especially if you think all or most gender dysphoria is innate, and I think sometimes they can be used dismissively. But anyone who's spent a lot of time with children should know those comparisons are not necessarily trivializing at all, and especially should know that the children who make those extraordinary claims are not kidding, and are taking them as seriously as they can for their age, and moreover are using those declarations to do real emotional work or to learn some important concepts, etc. Child's play is very serious business- it is not unusual for a child to grow very distressed and cry when their imaginary best friend is challenged, or when someone corrects them and says they are 4 and not 9 as they insist, etc. So when we are talking about any claim made by a child as young as 3 (GIDS in the UK has publicly said the youngest person they've seen was 3 years old, last I saw, and in the US there's one very famous case of a person having been taken to professionals who allegedly presented the diagnosis of gender dysphoria at the age of 3 as well) I think comparing the proclamation of a cross-sex identity is directly comparable to the proclamation of other extraordinary identities or realities a child might make at the same age, and that that speaks to the importance of the thing being communicated in every instance and not to one being silly and one being serious.
Secondly, I think the sheer number of very loudly desisted detransitioners does tell us that the desistance rate cannot possibly be all that low, or else it should simply be very difficult to locate members of this allegedly very small subset of the allegedly also very small subset of people who've undergone transition steps.
Thirdly, the best numbers I've found from a very sympathetic source (Thomas Steensma, who helped to develop the protocol for stopping puberty in children in response to gendered distress and supports the practice to this day) still show a desistance rate, being most generous, of roughly 30%, and this in a subset of children who were distressed enough to be at a clinic in the first place. I'm getting 30% by roughly chopping out those who were counted as desisted merely because they stopped attending the clinic because that has been the best criticism I've seen of the study, but if even 30% of the children being given an extremely powerful and medically experimental protocol with drugs we know are correlated with really horrific effects even in adult use for serious medical problems don't "need" it, which is ceding for a second the concept that puberty could possibly be something a person doesn't need to experience and I'm not sold on that concept, that's a very big deal.
Fourthly, I think the prevalence of gender dysphoria among very gender nonconforming gay and bisexual women in their childhoods probably indicates that most people at least of that variety really do make it through the other side of puberty with their gender-related distress significantly lowered or resolved, and I think that could potentially only get harder and harder to see if there is less opportunity ever even presented for non-medical or even just non-transition resolution. However, I think I also have to grant that the percentage of very gender nonconforming female people I know who think of themselves as women is incredibly small right now, and to be fair you could correlate that with the fact that most gnc girls grow up to be non-gnc and heterosexual women, and the small subset that do not grow into those could be argued to be the kind of true gender dysphoric subject in question. I don't think that's a very good argument but I grant it is one you could pretty reasonably make.
I actually personally don't think desistance rates are all that important honestly, and I don't really like much focus on them- the only way in which they matter to me personally all that much is I suspect that puberty blockers and the affirmative model may be actively locking children into identities which will compel them to make choices that cause real harms to their health and body over time. To get to your question about the new 2.5% study, I did see it in the NYTimes and I don't think much of it. I don't think it tells us anything that a child could speak up about distress with regard to gender norms and their body at the age of 6.5 (which was the average I think initial questioning age) and then be handed an entire narrative that affirms and describes and gives real form to a form of distress they are experiencing by professionals in white coats who say it is best that they be allowed for instance to engage in cross sex behaviors from which they were previously barred, and then have their brain development paused (not all of the children were on blockers in the study is my understanding, but some were) while they are experiencing this severe emotional distress about their developing body and the gender norms ascribed onto it which they think about constantly because the purpose of the protocol is often said to be allowing children time to think (I would say obsess) about their distress, and then still be experiencing that distress in a way that lines very neatly up with the narrative they were fed at the age of 6, 5 years later. None of that surprises me given my experience with and understanding of the deeply obsessive nature of a lot of people who struggle with gender dysphoria, the role of homophobia in the distress, the rigidity a lot of these children have around roles, etc. The problem now is that in order to untangle the impact of social and medical transition steps we would need control groups, and while I think the medicalization of this issue in children is unethical, there are others who think that having a control group of children not given blockers if deisred would also be unethical. But without control groups none of this really means all that much to me.
Thank you for the question! Hope this mostly makes sense.
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These three flags are garbage and look gross.
Letās go back to the original, please?
This one is so pretty! The pink and light blue look so cute and helps break the flag up a bit more. Plus they were removed for stupid reasons.
1: Donāt call me racist or transphobic because I understand how colour theory works.
2: I am literally trans
3: The original flag didnāt exclude people of colour, it treated them the same as everyone else. I donāt understand why you would need an extra stripe or two toĀ āappreciate POC moreā. Also, right before he died, the creator of the flag (Gilbert Baker) added a lavender stripe to represent diversity.
4: The black bar already had meaning. It represented those who were lost to AIDS. The people who added the brown stripe completely appropriated the meaning of the black one and painted over its meaning and history, which is honestly pretty disgusting in my opinion.
Stop calling people who disagree with you racist and transphobic because they know the history of the flag more than you do and realise that the brown stripe is ugly as fuck.
āthe pink stripe is uglyā just say graphic design is your passion and go. also gilbert baker wasnāt consulted on the bullshit design, and they released it like a MONTH after his death. thatās fishy as fuck.
hereās a higher quality version:
the meanings:
Lavender- Diversity.
Pink- Sexuality.
Red- Life.
Orange- Healing.
Yellow- Sunlight.
Green- Nature.
Turquoise- Art.
Indigo- Harmony.
Violet- Spirit.
hereās a picture of Gilbertās actual flag!
#not to mention the newer one was made by a corp so#ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
WHAT?
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if you support the philly pride flag, you lose the ability to complain about capitalism and corporations pandering to LGBT people.
The city paid an ad agency to make up an āinclusiveā LGBT flag to cover up for the fact that the city was racist as fuck and wanted to shift the buck to the LGBT community instead.
Also the creator of the philly flag stated clearly that the goal of adding the trans/intersex/etc flags in the design was to SHIT THE FOCUS AWAY FROM HOMOSEXUALITY.
Itās literally a homophobic pride flag and I think the design is pretty well made in this regard. Because itās fucking obvious.
Transmasc Asks
How tight is your gorilla grip bussy?
Which boypussy videos do you watch to alleviate your dysphoria over gay men not wanting to fuck you?
Are you an autoandrophile or HSTS?
Did your parents divorce before or after you decided you were a boy?
Are you a smol goth prince or a feral rat himbo?
Which is your favorite yaoi smut fic?
How big is your penis-sona?
Which cosplay conventions have you been to recently?
Which homophobic slur do you like appropriating the most?
How many blowjobs have you given to gay men under the pretense that you were also a gay man?
How many pride flags are in your room?
When was the last time you took a shower?
When were you diagnosed with autism?
Which shade of Manic Panic hair dye is your go-to?
Do your wear your pronoun pins on your schoolbag, or your jacket?
Who makes your telephone calls for you?
Which is your favorite Cavetown song?
Nobody is excluding trans people from discussions about abortion rights. YOU are the ones who decided that when I say āall women are entitled to safe abortionā, Iām not talking about you. Your refusal to acknowledge your womanhood is not my problem; when I advocate for women, Iām advocating for you too.
I want to research how the abbreviation āsexā for sexual activity has impacted the evolution of the word āgenderā into a more āpoliteā stand-in for biological sex because people donāt want to sound like theyāre talking about sexual activity. Iām dead serious when I say this linguistic phenomenon is part of the reason gender ideology has gotten where it has; Iāll concede to the postmodernists that language can shape thought even if it doesnāt shape reality
iāve seen a LOT of people say that artemis hates terfs or whatever and i always have to laugh purely bc of this myth in particular, about daphne & the huntresses of artemis:Ā
āLeukippos (Leucippus) fell in love with Daphne, but despaired of winning her to be his wife by an open courtship, as she avoided all the male sex. The following trick occurred to him by which to get her. Leukippos was growing his hair long for the river Alpheios (Alpheus). Brading his hair as though he were a maiden, and putting on womanās clothes, he came to Daphne and said that he was a daughter of Oinomaos (Oenomaus), and would like to share her hunting. As he was thought to be a maiden, surpassed the other maidens in nobility of birth and skill in hunting, and was besides most assiduous in this attentions, he drew Daphne into a deep friendship. The poets who sing of Apollonās love for Daphne make an addition to the tale; that Apollon became jealous of Leukippos because of his success in his love. Forthwith Daphne and the other maidens conceived a longing to swim in the Ladon, and stripped Leukippos in spite of his reluctance. Then, seeing that he was no maid, they killed him with their javelins and daggers.āĀ Ā (Pausanias, Description of Greece 8. 20. 2 (trans. Jones) (Greek travelogue C2nd A.D.) (source)Ā
they literally killed this man for pretending to be a woman in order to infiltrate their female-only space. but please, tell me again how artemis would totally accept males as her huntresses.Ā