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its amazing how johns have rendered themselves practically invisible in the discussion of sex workers. like every justification for a sex work industry has everything to do with whether women have the right to make a living and not whether men have the right to purchase sex. the women are the actors here but men are just the force of nature. this applies to a lot of dynamics but it feels so evil when it comes to the sex industry.ย
Even if I agree just for argument's sake that the existence of intersex people proves that some people can have "nonbinary" sexes, or "third" sexes, and that "sex is a spectrum," how does that have any relevance to people who are not intersex? Like okay, let's "agree" for the moment that intersex people are something other than male or female. How does that make YOU, as a person who is not intersex, something other than male or female? Saying that intersex people's existence somehow makes sex "complicated" for you specifically is like saying that the issue of whether or not you can hear is "complicated" because some other people who are not you suffer from hearing loss or deafness. Like sorry but for 99% of the human population it is not "more complicated" than born with perfectly normal male genitalia = male and born with perfectly normal female genitalia = female, and chances are you fall into that 99%.
Sex is not a social construct or a nebulous enigma of a concept. It is not debatable and made up in the manner that gender is. You cannot philosophize about whether there are two sexes any more than you can philosophize about whether humans have two kidneys. Someone having a missing or malformed kidney or accessory kidneys does not change the fact that humans as a species have two kidneys. Humans are gonochoric just like nearly all other animal species on Earth.
People who make this argument have never met an intersex person. They're overwhelmingly just men and women with some funky endocrine stuff happening. The odds of genital development being affected is like .0001% of the human population, and even then, it's more like 'you're not fertile' and less 'we can't tell your biological sex without genetic testing.'
Yeah. TRAs want so bad for, say, Turners to be a magical third sex and itโs just girls who have some developmental issues and are infertile as adults.
The thing is, these people are trying to expand the definition of intersex to include themselves. There are posts with tens of thousands of notes demanding that โpeopleโ with PCOS accept they are intersex or else theyโre intersexist. They absolutely think, or are trying to gaslight others to think, that the slightest variation from psychological and physical stereotypes is intersex.
Also itโs fucked up to make them do the additional heartbreaking labor of putting on a show of โenjoyingโ what theyโve been made to suffer through.
Men will ask these things literally while raping her and then act like theyโve solved the problem when she says โyesโ
genuine question regarding the "women are female people" post. trying to understand the radfem mindset because I don't agree with y'all on most things, but I understand your need to find safety and acceptance within the patriarchy's oppression/danger. I am female but not a woman. I was never socialized as one either. I feel like biological socialization piece goes out the window in my case. Biologically yes, I am female, but socially no one, including myself, would ever view me as a woman or place me through the same social oppression that women face, nor will I experience or have experienced any of the good parts of womanhood. I feel no desire to, because despite sharing the same biology, we are not socially the same. I feel like, in this experience, theres a stark divide between the social category of "women" and biological category of "female." What is your take on this, I'm curious?
The crucial issue here is that youโre conflating women and femininity. You say thereโs a difference between women and females, when you instead mean thereโs a difference between feminine women and non-feminine women. You believe women are socially constructed, when you instead mean femininity is socially constructed.
The only way you could think that your non-conformance to femininity indicated that you were not a woman, is if you believed femininity was innate and inseparable from women. This is not only an unabashed display of bioessentialism, but a reinforcement of the same sex-based roles and sexist stereotypes that gender ideologues purport to be defying.ย
In case you donโt know, the concepts of femininity and masculinity were created solely to enforce female subjugation and male domination (elaboration here). Therefore, nothing is more misogynistic or in direct contradiction to the radical feminist goal of gender abolition than claiming women are defined by the very social construct created to subjugate them, rather than by their biological sex.ย ย
Iโll be honest, I feel increasingly irritated and hopeless every time I receive these messages of โIโm not a woman because I donโt conform to societyโs sexist, outdated idea of what women are.โ How can you not see how backwards it is to believe your conformity to a demographicโs harmful stereotypes is what determines whether you belong to that demographic? In what other circumstances is this ever the case?
This is a genuine question: why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that youโre a gender-non-conforming woman? Why must you go through all these mental cartwheels and act as though being a woman is contingent on how others view you, or how you socially conduct yourself, or what degree of oppression you face? What benefit do you see in defining women by the social construct of femininity (hierarchical, prescriptive, arbitrary) rather than defining them as female (non-hierarchical, descriptive, concrete)?ย
Much of my frustration stems from the knowledge that radical feminists and gender ideologues actually hold similar views on the concepts of women and men, until they diverge at one crucial, irreconcilable point:ย
Both radical feminists and gender ideologues acknowledge the existence of regressive stereotypes attributed to the sexes. But where radical feminists seek to remove the stereotypes from the sex, gender ideologues instead, quite stupidly, seek to remove the sex from the stereotypes.
In short, I still consider you a woman completely deserving of access to womenโs spaces, because being a woman does not, and should not, have any other prerequisites other than being an adult, a human, and a female. There are not, and should not be, any behaviors, aesthetics, feelings, or non-biological characteristics that determine whether youโre a woman. There are no gendered brains; there are no gendered souls. Being a woman is an innate, neutral, and non-prescriptive reality, no different than having freckles or brown eyes or hooked noses.
this website is literally overrun with uncensored, untagged pornography and is practically the hub for pro-ana and pro-s/h content meanwhile being mostly popular with young adult/teen women but ur beef w staff is because of the FEMINISTS?
stop reducing radical feminism to gender criticism
and stop reducing gender criticism to transgender criticism
and, for the conservative crowd, stop mistaking gender criticism for hating on gnc people
men be like
ppl are always saying that women are "allowed to cry" more than men are but I don't really think being expected to is the same as being "allowed" to without judgement, because generally the social judgement is still extremely present and imo not made much better by it being a "typical behavior from the likes of you" flavor of contempt
I just saw one of the many ways that rape culture is subtley normalized in media.
I won't say what show I was watching because I don't want any spoilers, but the main character is a shifty guy who's meant to have a good heart regardless, and we're meant to sympathize strongly with him. He tricked a drunk woman into having sex with him by telling her a direct lie about who he was. She woke up horrified at being lied to and he went through his morning routine undisturbed by her outrage or her abrupt departure. The writers try to make it an amusing and light-hearted situation, like, "Boys will be boys! What a scoundrel, how funny, right?"
It isn't funny. It's sexual assault.
Imagine being the sort of "person" who lies to someone in order to get them to sleep with you with the understanding that they wouldn't come near you if you were honest about yourself; knowing that you were subverting their right to be selective about sexual partners and treating them like an object for your use rather than a human being who has the right to decide who has access to their bodies. Yet this is what this man did, and the show just moved on like it was no big deal instead of addressing what it actually was: a sign of a soulless, exploitative sexual predator, and someone no one should be sympathizing with.
There are SO many examples of this. Did anyone ever see those dumbass movies from the early 2000's, Superbad and 40-Year Old Virgin? The former is entirely about two teenage moids trying to get their classmates drunk so they'll be incapacitated enough to have sex with them, fully acknowledging that the girls would regard it as a mistake...
"๐ฌ๐ผ๐ ๐ธ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ต๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ ๐ด๐ถ๐ฟ๐น๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ '๐๐ต ๐บ๐ฎ๐ป, ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐ต๐ถ๐-๐ณ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐น๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ป๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐, ๐ ๐๐ต๐ผ๐๐น๐ฑ๐ป'๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ณ๐๐ฐ๐ธ๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ด๐๐? ' ๐ช๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐๐น๐ฑ ๐ฏ๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐บ๐ถ๐๐๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ!"
The latter is about a man getting advice as to how to manipulate women into sex, which in one scene involves targeting women who are so inebriated that they're stumbling out of the bar. The men in the movie compare "drunk bitches" to gazelles and themselves to tigers, openly admitting that they're predators.
"๐๐น๐น ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ด๐ผ๐๐๐ฎ ๐ฑ๐ผ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐๐ถ๐ป๐ฐ๐๐. ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ฑ๐ผ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ธ ๐ฎ ๐๐ถ๐ด๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ธ๐ป๐ผ๐๐ ๐ต๐ผ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ๐น๐ฒ ๐ฎ ๐ด๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐น๐น๐ฒ? ๐๐'๐ ๐๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐๐ฒ๐ป, ๐ถ๐'๐ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฒ ๐๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐๐ฒ๐ป ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ถ๐ฟ ๐๐ก๐, ๐๐ฎ๐๐ "๐ง๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ๐น๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ด๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐น๐น๐ฒ." ๐๐ฒ๐น๐ถ๐ฒ๐๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐ป๐ผ๐, ๐ถ๐ป ๐ฒ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ'๐ ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฒ ๐๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐๐ฒ๐ป ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐๐ "๐ง๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ธ๐น๐ฒ ๐ฑ๐ฟ๐๐ป๐ธ ๐ฏ*๐๐ฐ๐ต๐ฒ๐."
This all plants the idea that there is nothing serious about men preying on women; that it's even funny in it's own way. A lot of times, these men even have their happily ever after (or something closely resembling it) with the woman they preyed upon. I'm not even ๐ต๐ณ๐บ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ to think of examples and tons of them are crashing down on me. Another is the Breakast Club, where John Bender insulted Claire the entire time, made her cry, attempted to fucking ๐ด๐ฆ๐น๐ถ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐บ ๐ข๐ด๐ด๐ข๐ถ๐ญ๐ต ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ under the table...
And yet at the end she kisses him multiple times and gives him her diamond earring.
Why? WHY? It makes me want to scream, cry, and vomit! I feel such despair at all of this because it's EVERYWHERE. The message of "Yeah just let men do what they want to you okay, it's normal, dont be such an uptight bitch, it's just what guys do and it's not a big deal" is all over the place and it's no wonder women have such a low standard for decent behavior from males. It's intentional. You have a million shitbag males in movies and shows who you're told to like and to root for while they abuse women who adore them at the end, after all they've done to them. Why would you not believe this is all normal when you're seeing it wherever you turn?
Sometimes it feels like such a huge problem, so all-pervasive, that I just want to throw in the towel. But ALL through my most impressionable years, no one pointed out any of this to me. No one said, "Look at what they're trying to make you believe is normal. Isn't that disgusting and pathetic?" ๐๐ฐ ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ talks about it, and I wish someone had! So if even ONE woman becomes more vigilant about the messages she's being fed through these storylines, and the way these situations are portrayed as normal, funny or charming, and these characters as "good guys" when actually they are ๐ด๐ฆ๐น๐ถ๐ข๐ญ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฅ๐ข๐ต๐ฐ๐ณ๐ด and NONE of this is normal or okay...
Then it was worth writing a post about.
tbh I donโt think Iโll ever really forgive the trans movement for indoctrinating so many people into the belief that women speaking about our sex-based oppression is โterfyโ and shouldnโt be allowed and any woman who does it wants to genocide trans people. even if they back off of this stance, the damage is done.
me saying โwomen are oppressed on basis of sex, not gender identity, and we cannot identify out of that oppressionโ does not mean I think itโs okay to kill or hurt trans people. it does not mean that I agree with right-wingers when they say gender non-conformity is destroying civilization. It does not mean that I am going to vote for politicians who think all gay people/gender non-conforming people are groomers.
it literally just means you cannot change your biological sex (which was never a controversial statement, even among trans people, up until like 5 years ago) and females should have special protections and spaces since we are constantly being preyed upon by males who see us as subhuman sex objects. that doesnโt mean I think all trans people are predators, it means that enough males are predatory toward women that we deserve to have spaces away from them (especially spaces where weโll be not fully clothed).
we deserve to be able to talk about female-specific oppression without being told weโre evil genocidal nazis. and the fact that they constantly have to misrepresent what our actual beliefs are tells me they know weโre right and it scares them.
ppl really r like โhow dare you place misogyny on the same level as *ACTUAL BIGOTRY*โ like idk where people get the idea that itโs like totally unreasonable to compare misogyny to racism or homophobia or to think misogyny is a serious issue
People will be like how dare you compare the suffering of women to the suffering of real people
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Criticizing the flaws of your own side does not automatically make you a member of the oppressor. I am not anti-black if I point out that the Blank Panthers were hypocritical and violent towards their own womyn. I am not a conservative for pointing out that the left is too obsessed with perfect victims and perfect representatives. I am not anti-feminist for pointing out that womyn often play a part in their own oppression.
If you think in black and white like this, you are asking people to ride on a boat with weak spots in the name of blind solidarity.
Like you just spent the last eight years calling the womenโs March terfy and claiming anti abortion laws are about every single facet of oppression except misogyny and using the term โwhite woman tearsโ to describe women crying about the (also white) men who abused them but now you want to talk about white women being too stupid to realize theyโre oppressed? Lmao
men when their idol is a misogynist nazi and a whore with like 204 different children from 65 women who is a nepo baby benefitting from apartheid money whos lying about being a founder of a company and designing dysfunctional cars that implode or trap the driver inside in an accident:
men when their idol lies about his gamer rank: ๐คง๐ญ๐ญโ๐ป๐ก๐ก๐ต๐ค๐ป๐ซต๐ป๐๐ป๐คฌ๐คฏ๐ค
Controversial opinion, feel free to push back on this.
I feel like the modern fat positivity movement is intrinsically anti feminist. The fat positivity movement has women complacent about obesity and has spread a general discomfort with the concept of living a healthy life. The fact that San Francisco has a weight czar is absolutely insane. Obesity, especially morbid obesity, being pushed on women as okay leads to women being weaker, having a shorter lifespan, sometimes these women are even overweight to the point of becoming disabled. Our government has done nothing to promote health to women in the middle of all of this. They've chosen in some places to give "fat activists" a platform to speak to larger groups on behalf of local government. People who want women to suffer benifit from the rise in comfort around clinical obesity amongst women. I think this should be a feminist concern.
the stereotype of tumblr going back to like 2013 in most other places is literally โthe male tears mug websiteโ, do these people even know what they mean when they call someone a terf
