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Chapter 3 of Patriarchy and Accumulation on a World Scale by Maria Mies: Colonization and Housewifization
In this chapter Maria Mies leads the reader up to her main thesis, the housewifization of women, its benefits to capitalization, and its relationship to colonialization. (She expands on these in the next chapters, so donât worry if you donât quite understand the connection yet just from reading this chapter!) Along the way she also makes a case for direct connection of the witch hunts to the development of science, law and the formation of the state. In order to get there she compresses nearly a thousand years of history into a few paragraphs, which if you arenât that familiar with European history (cough cough like me cough) can be hard to follow. After a lot of frantic reading, Iâve done my best to fill in gaps! A good companion for this chapter is Silvia Federiciâs Caliban and the Witch which helps with some of this. Aside from the weird postmodern body-based language in the first few chapters, Caliban brings some more information and a different framework to the womenâs history table. [Also recommend Wallersteinâs The Modern World System, which does decently explain how capitalism came into existence despite not once mentioning women as a class.]Â
Ch. 2 | Ch. 3 | Ch. 4 | Ch. 5 | Ch. 6 | Ch. 7
Chapter 3: Colonization and Housewifization
The historical development of the sexual division of labour was not evolutionary, progressive, or peaceful, but was instead a violent process. Women are the main producers of things people need to live, but men use warfare and conquest to âproduceâ everything society needs by holding women producers hostage and taking what they produce. This accumulation of material wealth through looting and robbery also facilitates the faster development of technology. Arms and transport tech development is the main driver for technological development for all patriarchal societies, but this has been particularly the case in Europe, which has conquered and subjected the whole world since the fifteenth century. The European concept of âprogressâ is historically unthinkable without the one-sided development of the technology of warfare and conquest. Culturally, all the technology for creating well being and supporting life (gardening, cloth-making, renewable energy) is seen as backwards and simple-minded compared to war tech (navigation, the compass, gunpowder, etc).Â
The sexual division of labor is a predatory division of labour, based on a separation and subordination of human beings.  Men are separated from women, "Our ownâ people are separated from âforeigners/heathensâ. Man is separated from Nature. In the old patriarchies, the separation could never be total, because the subjected people were still visibly present. When capitalism arose as a world-system, based on large-scale conquest and colonial plunder, and through the emergence of the world-market, it became possible to externalize anyone the new patriarchs wanted to exploit. They were no longer a part of the economy or society, they were outside âcivilized societyâ. The outsiders were naturalized, declared to be wild savage nature waiting to be tamed by male âcivilizersâ.Â
This polarization between patriarchs and nature could now develop its full destructive potential. Science and technology became the main productive forces through which men could âemancipateâ themselves from nature, as well as from women. The modern European Patriarchs made themselves independent of their European Mother Earth, by conquering first the Americas, later Asia and Africa, and by extracting gold and silver and other âraw materialsâ and luxury items from other lands. They also âemancipatedâ themselves from European womenâs control of the production of new laborers by destroying the âwitchesâ and their knowledge of contraceptives and birth control. Thus, the âprogressâ of European men is based on the subordination and exploitation of European women, on the exploitation and killing of Nature, and on the subordination and exploitation of other peoples and their lands.
The laws governing the concept of âprogressâ are always contradictory. Evolution for some means devolution for others. Humanization for some means de-humanization for others. Development for some means underdevelopment and reverse development for others. The rise of some means the fall of others. There cannot be uniform progress for all because our economic system is a non-reciprocal, exploitative relationship. If the wealth of the cities is based on the exploitation of colonies, then the colonies cannot achieve wealth unless they also have colonies. If the emancipation of men is based on the subordination of women, then women cannot achieve equal rights with men, because that would mean having the equal right to exploit others. In a contradictory and exploitative relationship, the privileges of the exploiters can never become the privileges of all.Â
That means that feminism has to aim for the total abolition of dominance relationships. It must aim for an end to all exploitation of women by men, of nature by man, of colonies by colonizers, of one class by another. As long as the exploitation of any person remains the precondition for the advance of any section of people, we cannot speak of liberation or socialism.Â
This chapter will briefly sketch out the process by which, in the last 4-500 years, women, nature, and colonies were externalized, declared to be outside society, pushed down, and made invisible like the underwater part of the iceberg is invisible, even as it is the foundation and support for the visible part. The emergence of European science and technology and its so-called mastery of nature is linked to the persecution of witches, and both of these are linked to the slave trade and the destruction of the subsistence economies in what became the colonies of European states.Â
"If the emancipation of men is based on the subordination of women, then women cannot achieve equal rights with men, because that would mean having the equal right to exploit others. In a contradictory and exploitative relationship, the privileges of the exploiters can never become the privileges of all." -- this is such a great response to the people who say, oh, but women and men have equal rights under the law now, so we don't need feminism anymore.
OP, I really appreciate that you did extra research and added contextual notes too.
I have a question, in chapter 2 Mies linked the historical emergence of male violence to men figuring out that the tools they used to hunt animals could also be used to enslave women. I thought she meant that happened globally, but this chapter seems to contradict that when it points to European colonization as the cause of the subjugation of women in the colonized countries, who previously had a higher social status.
Does Mies give a reason in later chapters for why the men in non-European countries hadnât implemented their own version of patriarchy by that point? Was it because the targeted campaign against women via the witch hunts developed along with the scale of the economy, and the Europeans just happened to get there first because of environmental factors or resource availability or other factors?
Sorry if this comes off as a homework question or something lmao, I'm just trying to understand how the statements in this chapter and the previous chapter are linked together. It's entirely possible I missed something while reading your two posts because social media has destroyed my attention span.
The people who insist AI is smarter than a human are doing their fucking damnedest to manifest that
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"there is no way you're not using chatgpt for at least a few things here and there no matter your stance on it" what the FUCK are you talking about
> turns on my computer
> disables a new AI feature that was turned on by default
> opens my email
> disables a new AI feature that was turned on by default
> launches a software
> disables a new AI fea
Honestly, at this point, if you're still bitching about AI but not moving to open-source and nonprofit software/tech/services, you deserve it. Shut up or stop using it. Those of us who've put in the effort to switch to non-evil tech are sick of the purposeless whining.
I've been nicely letting everyone suggest open source on this post because it might genuinely be useful to someone but because you've decided to be a condescending little bastard- this might be a hard concept to grasp, but some of us actually have jobs. Some of those jobs also provide us with computers equipped with an OS we have zero say over, to use software we also have zero say over. Kindly get off your high horse and suck my dick.
As someone who has worked in IT for the past 17 years, I'd also like to say that there is often a higher barrier of entry for open-source software / operating systems when it comes to technical knowledge and ability, and those who can't jump that barrier still deserve to not have AI programs installed on their devices without their knowledge or consent. Someone who struggles with Windows is not going to be able to just hop into Linux, especially when they probably have other things going on in their lives and don't have the time to sit down and learn a brand new operating system. Someone who doesn't even recognize that there are different browsers, much less open-source ones that aren't Chromium forks, isn't going to be able to seek out one they can both a.) safely download, b.) install, and c.) use instead of the shortcut they know as The Internet.
And sure, you can dismiss these people as lazy, as stupid, as being elderly and so who cares. But from my 17 years of experience, I can tell you that technical instinct and ability varies widely across the entire adult spectrum. And I can also tell you that people have different strengths, and that just because someone isn't good with computers doesn't mean they aren't smart as hell.
And I can also say, again, that it really doesn't matter.
Companies like Microsoft and Google sneaking AI software into devices and software without the consent of those using the software or devices is wrong. It's invasive and raises major security concerns. People should not have to learn entirely new operating systems to escape this nonsense. It's an unreasonable expectation, and it fails to hold companies like Microsoft and Google accountable for their malicious behavior.
As someone who has changed up entire workflows and platforms I use I will continue to 'whine' about AI being jammed needlessly into fucking everything. For all the reasons above which I won't repeat.
And also because there isn't an alternative for everything, either. Not to mention sometimes you (I) go through all the work of finding one, changing processes and information, and then whoopsies oh look now it's also using AI, or dropped, or broken, or unsecure.
10 to 15 years ago if my computer or phone wanted to update, i would immediately restart it because updates meant security patches which made my systems safer.
Now my phone wants to update and i will put it off as long as possible because i just know it's either going to try to add more ai junk in or turn it back on and i am going to have to dig through all my settings again trying to find ways to disable it.
I thought I needed a new laptop but nope, youtube is slowing down your PC if you have adblock on on any open tab...
To be very clear about this: CPUs aren't magical devices that can operate forever. They generate heat. They wear out over time. This happens faster when they're operating near capacity. This is not just an attempt to inconvenience you; this is an attempt to damage your property.
For the "crime" of not wanting to be tracked/have ads pissed into your eyeballs 24/7.
Even if you've paid for the "privilege" of the latter.
Fuck Google, and I hope they get sued into oblivion over this.
i see everyone in the notes talking about newpipe but nobody's talking about youtube alternatives for desktop
IF YOU USE A DESKTOP PC OR LAPTOP, TRY INVIDIOUS
https://invidious.io/
it is a free, open-source alternative YouTube front-end. in addition to not having ads, it has other great QoL features like a download button. try one of the several instances on that link up there ^^^^
so i was super pissed and concerned about this but i have just discovered that while this is true, it is apparently only true for google chrome users. i just tested this by having ten tabs open in firefox playing ten different youtube videos at the same time and my cpu usage spiked to 25% as the videos were loading and then dropped back down to 10% as they played.
if you ever needed another reason to switch to a different browser, this is it.
"If you acknowledge that male biology plays a role in perpetuating male violence you're just removing accountability from men" is a truly braindead take.
If I get hit by a truck, and I say, "I think part of the reason my injuries are so bad is because it was an 18-wheeler," are you going to say to me, "nooooooo it has nothing to do with the size and speed of the truck!! Don't take accountability away from the driver!!!"? Of course not.
You deny evolution when you insist that male biology has NOTHING to do with their dangerousness. It's nothing but male propaganda designed to silence women into not naming the problem. There is no reason that we cannot simultaneously acknowledge the problem AND hold men accountable -- but they've made it into a false dichotomy and you're so scared of having the wrong opinion that you fell for it. It's literally #notallmen logic repackaged with some sciencey words like "bioessentialism" to shut you up and keep your eyes closed.
The same reason men are less healthy than women is also why they're more intrinsically--biologically--evil and dangerous. The lack of a second X chromosome means there is a no backstop for a wide variety of disorders and neurocognitive impairments, many of which facilitate violence. If a female has a corrupted gene on one X chromosome, she's got a whole other one, doubling her chances of having healthy gene expression. XYs do not have this and that's why there are so many more males with profound intellectual disabilities, they die earlier and have more cancer and disease, etc. There's no backup, they're stuck with one X.
Do you know why humans have sexual dimorphism? Because your forefathers were violent rapists. If men had not been oppressing women for millennia, they would not be so much larger than us on average. We would be the same size, like many species where males and females show similar levels of aggression.
Give yourself some credit for your pattern recognition skills (how many of your foremothers had to die brutal violent deaths at the hands of men for you to have this innate ability??) and stop letting men intimidate you into turning your brain off.
To acknowledge the fact of the matter is not removing accountability for their actions. I argue the opposite. Because they are predisposed to violence, they MUST have swift consequences and longer prison sentences for rape, child molestation, and domestic violence. That is quite literally the only thing keeping so many of them from violently raping/abusing others. If they believe they can weasel their way into 6 months for child molestation, they will be more likely to commit that crime.
IT WAS NEVER "NATURAL".
This whole thing has made me hate men more. Right wing men want their slaves back and left wing men are just mad that they can't afford a slave.
And left wing handmaidens, don't think I don't notice the way y'all sanctimoniously scold tradwives for being antifeminist in between your dutiful condemnations of "terfs" and "swerfs".
People want SO BAD for this to be women's fault because people don't actually want this structure of society to be dismantled.
Right wing handmaidens want every woman to be a private property of a man, and hopes she will manage to get herself a good benevolent master so the abuse and violence will happen to other women.
Leftist handmaidens want to have a separate class of women who are considered public property, so they would absorb male violence instead.
I saw this from the female separatism subreddit & the responses are some of the biggest reasons for separatism et al (or extinction if I'm being candid here). Moids cant be reformed they are fully aware of the hell they force women to live in. MaIe achievement & happiness is rooted in female exploitation & life. Their glory days are based on our horrific days. No amount of love, kindness or facts will change maIes and we cannot happily or even neutrally coexist with them.
Main points across answers:
Many want to experiment but not permanently be women
They dont want to be in constant danger or lose their autonomy at the hands of maIes for merely existing
They dont want to deal with childbirth (& periods)
They dont want to have to share spaces with species much stronger than them with ulterior motives
It makes me go crazy seeing people give moids benefit of doubt for their evil like "maIes just dont understand", "we need to teach maIes", or claiming that maIe violence is a result of maIes struggling with (expressing) their feelings. I get that women love maIes and it can be hard to imagine that people can intentionally be so evil but it is what it is. MaIes have no problems expressing themselves, abusing women is what maIes choose to do because they enjoy & benefit from it - that is their expression.
MaIes see the same news of women being abused, raped, and killed like we do except rather than be disheartened or alarmed they're either apathetic or satisfied. It isn't aliens that's committing GBV it's maIes & maIes have no problem reminding women of this when women anger them (such as rape threats & threatening women they'll end up on the news/true crime). The victim blaming, denial, and derailment of misogyny is part of the game to keep the system alive, they know the events occured & are a systemic occurence they just dont care. Hell not only do they not care, they rejoice in it or get off on it.
MaIes set up environments that work in their favour which simultaneously ensures that women will lose. They know women are set up to live in damn near impossible conditions for us. It's normalised for women to defenselessly share personal & private spaces with beings much more stronger than them with ulterior motives for us, it's trap. It's interesting how these moids aren't saying that they'll just cover up and *poof* harrassment gone, or they'll just pick a nice guy & they'll be okay. MaIes know the net negative they are towards women.
MaIes know that childbirth is a painful process & what do they do? Demand it happens and make it even MORE painful for women. MaIes that impregnate women do not love or care for them. Pregnancy itself is dangerous & sometimes lethal, often comes with a range of health issues, to cause someone to be in that condition especially in a environment where abortions are illegal is reckless & unloving. Now imagine how sinister & full of hatred one has to be to impregnate someone and abuse them on top of that. Many women risk their health & lives to reproduce with a Y and they get abused by said Y instead of being taken care of. Deranged.
Realising that maIes are aware of the evil they inflict is one of the things that radicalised me. It isn't a miscommunication or ignorance issue, their violence is intended. They want control. The cruelty is the point. Instead of wasting time & energy trying to change maIes or hope that they "understand" one day, focus on yourself & other women (who prioritise women). Moids aren't oblivious to female pain they enjoy it. A lot of women treat maIe evil like it's a mistake on maIes part but it's calculated terrorism. I know that this will go over many womens heads as they refuse to hold strong negative sentiments about moids as a collective so if you're not a woman like that, take this post as a sanity check. You aren't crazy, it isn't all in your head.
Adding honourable comment from the separatist subreddit:
TLDR: Don't waste time debating or educating moids. Focus on (building for) yourself & other women who aren't maIe apologists.
Few others in my gallery I couldn't include in the main post:
Notice the apathy these men talk with about all the horrible suffering women have to endure, as if it's someone else's problem, as if it isn't their mothers, daughters, sisters, and spouses experiencing these horrors first-hand 24/7 trapped on this planet with them. Notice that "sucks to be themđ¤ˇââď¸" attitude as they casually list all the pains women go through. The cold, detached awareness they have of half the population's misery. I don't know how women convince themselves "not all men". Clearly men collectively prefer patriarchy and want to maintain the status quo. Women can stay deluding themselves but reality is reality.
Men are aware of their sociopolitical and physical advantages that they hold over women and that being male in a male dominated world shields them from the majorities of rape, sexual abuse, sexual harassment and male violence victimization in general. They are aware of womenâs reality, and yet they express no remorse, no empathy, no compassion or regard for womenâs humanity and have no desire to make amends or remedy the damage they cause women on a global scale.
This proves men are largely self-serving and misogynistic, attempts to humanize men or consort with them are better spent enriching your own life or those of other women.
Reminds me of a therapist who worked with abusive men and asked them what they gained from the abuse. Lots of things, obviously. Their only reasons for not being violent were personal consequences to them. Not one word about women deserving better.
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Like a patriarchy microcosm.
As for the Twitter OPâs last question, I want society to change such that the concept of âtransitioningâ is irrelevant and makes no sense. If we abolish the idea that certain things are for men and certain things are for women, everyone could present however they like without it being associated with their sex.
I wonât prognosticate about the disappearance of autogynephilia, fetishism, and men wanting to access womenâs spaces and lesbian spaces for sexual thrills, in a post-gender-abolition society, because maybe males are just Like That, who knows. But if anyone can wear anything and have any job and personality it would be a lot harder for them to deceive others into thinking theyâre women.
Most* of the the truly distressed "transition or die" crowd wouldnât feel that way if children grew up in a society free of gender and homophobia, a society that understands that you canât be born in the wrong body because bodies have a biological sex but minds donât.
As for the predatory trans """lesbians"""âthe bad men that JK Rowling is talking aboutâtheir "happiness" comes at womenâs expense. They can just die.
(* = if body dysmorphia specifically focused on secondary sex characteristics continued to exist, it would be understood and treated the same way as other forms of dysmorphia)
Hate when TRAs are like âradfems suck because they dehumanise women by defining them by their vaginasâ.
There is one criteria for being a woman, one box you have to check, and that is being biologically female. You can be literally anything else as long as you check that box, masculine or feminine, a Russian housewife or a Portuguese construction worker or British cottagecore lesbian or American cowherder.Â
That isâŚ. so much more liberating than thinking womanhood is femininity, or lipstick, or shaving your legs, or wearing skirts, or conforming to misogynistic ideals, or somehow âfeelingâ like a woman.Â
So yeah. Woman have vaginas. They are also everything and anything else.
And to add on to that, you donât even need a vagina. As long as youâre an adult female human, youâre a woman. So in the case of women with DSDs who may have abnormal genitalia, theyâre still women. You canât be a third sex, youâre either one or the other.
Just like how a man could get his dick blown off in a war or something and heâd still be a man because not having a penis wouldnât change the fact that heâs an adult human of the male sex, aka all that matters.
Idk how this is so hard for them to understand. Maybe I need to put it in a simpler way: women and men are defined by their sex, meaning they will always be female and male respectively no matter what they look like, act like, and feel like. Acknowledging that women and men are different biologically and have important characteristics that separate them doesnât mean weâre reducing them to their genitals. Understood?
"We're just making up for the girlhood we never got to have!!"Â
My friend who left her Amish order at age 19, who was the eldest daughter to a family of nine, who never had a birthday party, whose days of cooking and cleaning and farm labor and taking care of her younger siblings started at 4:30 am, has never felt the urge to do ageplayÂ
My coworker, who raised her violent younger brother and fended for herself in a filthy double-wide trailer where her parents were either gone or raging drunk at home, who couldn't even dare to invite a friend over because of how horrifying her home life was, has never felt the urge to have a slumber party pillow fight
My neighbor's mother, who grew up as a house girl in southern India, who was born into a life of drugery and hiddenness and abuse, who wasn't allowed to even touch the toilet or dining utensils of the house she was forced to work in for 10 hours a day as a child, has never felt the urge to drink out of a Disney princess sippy cupÂ
MTFs do not want to experience girlhood. Girlhood as we lived it would have made these pampered, whiny, milksop men kill themselves. They want to live in the sexualized schoolgirl anime that was contrived entirely in the minds of men. None of us got to experience that girlhood, and yet none of us are desperately trying to recreate it as adults now.
"Parents usually try to protect girls more and dress them in pretty dresses" â yes, because for centuries, women's lives depended on whether the rich rapist would like them and buy them or not. Woman were literally raised for sale like cattle.
Just remember that "princesses," contrary to the stereotypes about their pampering, were mere bargaining chips. They were artificially pushed out of power, driven back to tea parties and dress fittings, because their primary function was to be sold and then regularly subjected to sexual and reproductive violence.
Your idea of ââwomanhood or girlhood is literally built on the propaganda of misogynists (who don't want to lose the opportunity to rape women so they block women's right movement) and the mockery of femicide. Just think about that twice.
It's pretty clear that a lot of TIM anger comes from jealousy.
They're angry about TIFs being welcomed in lesbian spaces because they want to be there instead, they think they're more worthy of being there. They frame it as concern for "men in lesbian spaces" and it makes them furious, because they know inside that they are the actual men in lesbian spaces.
They're angry about women and TIFs talking about our sex based oppression, because they wish they had oppression to talk about. They try to claim they're oppressed for their dicks, but deep down they're aware that they know nothing about sex based oppression and never will.
They're extremely angry about lesbians existing. They grew up feeling entitled to women's bodies, and lesbians rejecting them made them angry because they wanted access to them. So they tried to make up a workaround by identifying as a lesbian, and it infuriates them when it doesn't work, because they so badly want to force women into having sex with them.
They all try to pretend their anger is about trans rights or justice, but in reality they're just painfully jealous that all they have is male experience and they'll never have anything else.
straight men will never change. Even when they are trying to escape manhood. Male-ness and predatory male tactics are still inside them. The fact they make up the majority of the trans population tells a lot about this movement.
there was one super rapey cotton ceiling post i saw once that was so heinous that like i feel like the need to go find it and make everyone look at it to prove that we are not making it up like they really do say shit like that.
sorry for long post but I found it!!!
it just makes me feel crazy that they will deny that anyone has ever perpetuated this cotton ceiling rhetoric when they make posts like this acting like a woman's lack of attraction to them is a problem to be solved. It doesn't matter why a woman doesn't want to fuck you!!! Coming at her like it's some type of debate and trying to convince her that she's a bad person for not having sex with you is sex pest behavior!!!
Here's another one I found while looking for this one where the same user reblogged that conflates allyship with dating and hookups. Maybe that's why women don't want to be your allies anymore!!!!!!
And here's another one where they're just for real just lying and saying we're the ones who are loudly announcing totally unprompted that we don't want to fuck you!!! No!!! You people will pester us about whether or not we'd theoretically fuck you and then you call us hysterical terfs if we say no!!!! Or you'll hear some random women you don't even know mention that she's only into vagina and you'll take that as a personal attack for some reason because you feel completely fucking entitled to a random woman's body!!!!!
like it reminds me of the scenario in this comic where this person gets offended that a female celebrity that doesn't know they exist would not theoretically fuck them. Like you realize that's a completely normal situation for lesbians since most female celebrities being straight??? who the fuck caresssssssss
Yeah I canât imagine why he never hears lesbians say theyâre grossed out by vulvas. Weird. I canât think of a possible reason that lesbians donât say that. Oh well.
âThis marginalized group of womenâ are men.
Even if they werenât, dating is not activism. You are allowed to reject anyone at any time for any reason. Transphobia is not solved by dating trans people, no matter how much they claim it would.
we've shown these people dozens of posts with thousands of likes and reblogs and shares proving that this is a real thing ppl believe, and instead of admitting that they were wrong, they move the goalpost to "okay it exists but its only a small part of the community. NOBODY says this irl."
wrong! my bisexual ex said to my face that lesbians who won't fuck transwomen are transphobic. we had a huge debate about it that ended with me breaking up with her.
the "cotton ceiling" has real life consequences for lesbians! my own girlfriend believed in lesbian rape rhetoric! this is not some online hyper-niche corner of the internet, this is affecting actual women!!!
when i was a kid i was so mad all the time bc i thought someday i'd have to be somebody's wife i didn't know it was optional. is everybody reminding the young girls in their lives that it's optional.
AND SO IS BEING SOMEBODY'S MOTHERâźď¸
it is about being a woman. hope that helps!
reading comprehension questions for the notes:
is wanting to be a wife and mother a requirement for being a woman?
why might OP be annoyed with replies assuming that this post is about being aroace or transmasc if a woman doesnât want to be a wife or mother?
are there reasons unrelated to sexuality and romantic interest that might make a woman not want to be a wife or mother?
are there reasons unrelated to gender identity and expression that might make a woman not want to be a wife and mother?
core concept: what is gender essentialism?
is it gender essentialism to imply that all women inherently want to be wives and mothers? could this be what OP is critiquing?
look at the notes OP responds to. is it gender essentialism to imply that being a wife and mother is so affixed to womanhood that to not want to be those things means youâre incapable of sexual/romantic feelings, or not a woman?
what trait are you perpetuating when you assume that women who do not want to be wives and mothers must be aroace or trans? is it gender essentialism?
Iâll never forget when I was arguing with a person in favor of total prison abolition and I asked them âwhat about violent offenders?â And they said âWell, in a world where prisons have been abolished, weâll have leveled the playing field and everyone will have their basic needs met, and crime wonât be as much of an issue.â And then I was like âokay. ButâŚno. Because rich people also rape and murder, so it isnât just a poor person thing. So what will we do about that?â And I donât think they answered me after that. Iâm ashamed to say I continued to think that the problem was that I simply didnât understand prison abolitionists enough and that their point was right in front of me, and it would click once I finally let myself understand it. It took me a long time to realize that if something is going to make sense, it needs to make sense. If you want to turn theory into Praxis (Iâm using that word right donât correct me Iâll vomit) everyone needs to be on board, which mean it all needs to click and it needs to click fast and fucking clear. You need to turn a complex idea into something both digestible and flexible enough to be expanded upon. Every time I ask a prison abolitionist what they actually intend to do about violent crime, I get directed to a summer reading list and a BreadTuber. Itâs like a sleight-of-hand trick. Whereâs the answer to my question. There it is. No wait, there it is. Itâs under this cup. No it isnât. âThereâs theory that can explain this better than I can.â As if most theory isnât just a collection of essays meant to be absorbed and discussed by academics, not the average skeptic. âRead this book.â And the book wonât even answer the question. The book tells you to go ask someone else. âOh, watch this so-and-so, she totally explains it better than me.â Why canât you explain it at all? Why did you even bring it up if you were going to point me to someone else to give me the basics that you should probably already know? Maybe Iâm just one of those crazy people who thinks that some people need to be kept away from the public for everyoneâs good. Maybe that just makes me insane. Maybe not believing that pervasive systemic misogyny could be solved with a UBI and a prayer circle makes me a bad guy. But itâs not like womenâs safety is a priority anyway. Itâs not like there is an objective claim to be made that re-releasing violent offenders or simply not locking them up is deadly.
I've done a lot of reading about prison abolition, particularly academic sources, and the general idea is that crimes will still happen, but the communty will essentially sort it out on their own.
A lot of prison abolition frameworks rely on what we know about how societies met their own and each others needs before currency. So, if someone needed milk, they'd take eggs from their chicken and trade it with the person who has a cow. This ensured that everyone's physical needs were usually met.
Prison abolitonists won't say it, but their idea of how rape should be handled is exactly how these early agricultural societies handled it. It was a "majority rules" system. Meaning, if the community liked the women more, the man would be ousted or punished. And if the community liked the man more, the woman would be ousted or punished.
The general goal of prison abolition is not a society in which everyone is safe and has their individual needs met. It's a society that's stable and can maintain itself, where most people have their physical needs met enough to reproduce and continue the society.
This is why they can never give you a straight answer. Because the prison abolition framework doesn't aim to abolish rape, it aims to keep it as quiet as possible. Their solution is to keep men only raping their own wives and daughters, and for those women and girls to have enough other needs met that they'll shut up about it for fear of not having those other needs met.
Most prison abolitionists do not actually understand their framework, because they don't read the academic sources and they don't know how their ideal society would function. But the academics know exactly what it would look like, and it's a regressive society where instead of a justice system making prisons to keep the violent men contained, each household has a woman to keep that household's men contained.
If you want to know what prison abolition looks like, don't ask a prison abolitionist who says "I don't know what that would be like". Look at examples of early agricultural communities where their primary goal is survival. That's what it would look like, because in the absence of large scale people management, all of the social duties fall to women.
I'm a prison abolitionist, but only for men: I want to replace prisons with the death penalty (especially for rape) and lashings for lower level offenders. Women who kill their abusers would be put into a women only commune to heal, men who abuse and kill women would be thrashed then hanged. Maybe we could turn child rapists into eunuchs and then work them to death? đ¤ The possibilities for violent males to endure pain and suffering are endless, and prison systems are so mid for realising that dream.
All these industries with shortages of workers and they canât figure out why.
Im proposing the hypothesis that the reason we donât have enough doctors/pilots/bus drivers/etc is that maybe, just maybe, having your entire industry function as a lifelong hazing ritual isnât the best recruiting strategy.
Doctors are subject to 8 years of post-secondary education and are forced to work 48 hour shifts.
Pilots and other transportation workers have absurd hours of service requirements that start your rest period as âthe moment you shut the vehicle downâ and can be as short as 9 hours in some cases.
Railroad workers have to be available on-call 6 days a week and be ready within two hours notice. They donât get sick time.
Retail workers have to keep a veneer of politeness against any and all abuse or they can be fired.
Truck drivers get paid by mileage and rarely see pay for shipper or receiver delays.
Work should not be designed to make you a miserable burnout and yet here we are.