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fan of Batgirl and Huntress and Signal and Wonder Woman, corruption comes from lack of connection to other people, greatest heroes are ones who regularly help and listen to individuals and community groups

[gabegiles777]

character analysis essays, editable for collaboration

I have analyses for multiple heroes at:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HRpHOx4wala71bgT9QExSVKWTo-qONDH?usp=drive_link

If anyone is interested in creating a group project based on these analyses, I have editable versions. I'm interested in if people want to add characters before I get to them personally, have a different analysis, or disagree with how I divide versions of the characters. If someone wants to discuss pre-Flashpoint and post-Flashpoint versions of Cassandra Cain, or combined pre and post-Crisis versions of Bruce Wayne and Kal-El and other characters, that would interest me. They're at:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1d6TRaOXoPf17dI95NovGjvr4qSwj_xbp?usp=drive_link

[currently-dazzling]

As a new dc fan the batgirls are just so superior to the robins imo

[toomanyf4ndoms77]

“Huntress is too violent!!” She’s got to grade midterms by tomorrow and answer student emails, God forbid a woman release some stress on people trying to shoot her.

[ladyloveandjustice]

Honestly, for all we can debate about Bruce's the code against killing all we want, but the biggest hypocrisy in Bruce's code is exposed not by the Joker or anything else, but by Wonder Woman and the Max Lord incident in Greg Rucka's Wonder Woman run. And it's pointed out within the text too, Batman and Superman just are not made to answer for it because DC is a coward.

Diana beheads Medusa, a lady who has snakes on her head thanks to Athena cursing her, but who is otherwise as human as anyone else, on live national television, to save millions of lives. Nothing from Batman and Superman. Not a blip. No effect on their friendship.

Diana snaps Maxwell Lord's neck to save millions of lives, after exhausting every other option: GET OUT DIANA! HOW COULD YOU! OUR FRIENDSHIP IS OVER!!!

And Greg points this out! That the only difference is Medusa looks scary!

She is saying this to Batman! She is reminding him about Medusa, that she did that too, and got no pushback from him when that happened! But does he respond? No. He tells her to get out.

And that's what DC seems unable to truly take their heroes to task for. Diana has killed monsters that are fully sentient before and gotten no pushback. I believe there are even comics where Clark and Bruce do the same. So, according to Clark and Bruce, several times throughout the history of comics, if you've got some sort of creepy or alien appearance, your humanity is forfeit, you don't have the same rights as anyone else.

Diana simply does not have that hypocrisy. Your actions make you monstrous to her, not your face.

But then, in the end, Rucka wasn't allowed to finish his story and everyone acted as if Diana was the one who needed to change here. Not Clark and Bruce. Drives me up a wall.

[reducingemissions]

I get so mad when people say selina, barbara and helena aren’t apart of the batfam because it just minimises and undermines what they have done for the batfam especially someone like Barbara who literally carried them on her back through multiple missions making her one of the most important members of the family (top 2 imo after bruce just bcs he started it all ig), and helena who at first might seem like she isn’t that loyal to Bruce but she is literally his ride or die, she took two alter egos in nml as huntress and batgirl and played by his rules, and in injustice she literally stood by him (even though you would think she would agree more with superman), she literally went against gods like superman and wonder woman and died for him, don’t even get me started on selina, one of the only crime fighters bruce trusts to keep gotham safe alongside him, you can claim some fake noble stance on why you don’t like them being included but it’s actually misogynistic imo since all it does is bury and erase their impact and influence on it.

[roninlin]

I'm late for International Women's Day, but I'm still gonna use the opportunity to talk about one of my favorite comic series. So, the thing about Catwoman is that in order to stop seeing her merely as a fandom image of a "hot cat thief meow girl boss lady," you really need to read that damn Catwoman (2002) run…

Catwoman (2002) tackles topics of misogyny, sex trafficking, child abuse, CSA, SA, alcohol abuse, and drug use. We start the very first issue with the fact that an unnamed man is killing sex workers in the East End. Batman won't do anything because he has Gotham's rogues gallery to deal with, and Gotham's police simply wouldn't bother with "low-class" women. So, the only person who is willing to do anything about this situation is Catwoman.

Well, isn't that a fun and totally-not-relevant-to-real-life thing. Speaking about the police angle: I think Gordon and Batman's dynamic is so fundamental to bat-stories that writers frequently pull their punches when it comes to showing the GCPD as truly rotten. As a result, the takeaway about the system usually ends up being pretty weak: "Yeah, Gotham's police force is pretty corrupted and rotten, but there are some good people here, so they're still allies. Also, sometimes police brutality is okay."

Fortunately, the Catwoman (2002) run doesn't have that problem — you'll find yourself genuinely hoping for all cops to die in that one, which is a win in my book

That run is a DC classic in the sense of how gritty and dark it gets sometimes, but I still wouldn't call it hopeless or edgy. What always set Selina apart from other rogues for me is that she never uses her trauma as a free pass for her actions. She's constantly walking the line between selfish (Batman's villain) and altruistic (Batman himself), and exists in that grey area: part rogue, part hero. The thrill of the hunt balanced against real compassion for victims who remind her of her young self.

The reason why Selina resonates to me is that she's sharp and resilient, but also very vulnerable and human. My favourite scene is when she comes close to giving up on being good, because trying to help has only ever brought her and the people she loves suffering. Oh, Selina, my poor meow meow…

On a brighter note, Selina gets to off Black Mask not once but twice in the series (with a third round in Blackest Night), plus she forms an incredibly sweet bond with a jaded detective Slam Bradley and her very own Robin figure, Holly Robinson.

Heartwarming <3

Unfortunately, the second Brubaker stopped writing for the series, the quality of the story immediately went downhill. It still had some moments that I liked, but the previous atmosphere and social commentary were no longer there, in my opinion. Also, it has one writing decision that I won't spoil, but it's perplexing at best and downright misogynistic at worst.

That said, it's still absolutely worth reading if you want to understand Catwoman as a character or just enjoy a good woman-led story.

[deadletterpoets]

I think the fandom often forgets, that while there is always more for Cassandra Cain to learn, and she's learned a good amount from Bruce and Babs, in terms of fighting and weapons handling, she came to them basically prepackaged ready to go. And even then when they do teach her new fighting skills she picks it up faster than everyone else.

Most of what Cass needs to "learn" is social and non fighting based, but she can get that from many places not just Bruce or Babs.

It's why I want more detective stories with Cass where she has to examine evidence and follow leads and stuff. It's why I want more stories of Cass just out in the world making friends with people outside the batfam.

[automaticsoulharmony]

I actually love how tense Tim and Cass’ dynamic is in Bludhaven.

He’s intimidated by her past, and scared of how she values Batman

She’s confused by him and feels devalued every time they talk

They’re alone in this city now but after one mission decide to not work together

They train together but everything gets tense whenever Steph is mentioned

He knew Steph more than any of them and she found her first and only friend in Steph

She’ll never be as smart as him and he will never be as talented a fighter

Cass thinks Batman is the best, Tim accepts how many times Bruce has been wrong

Their both teenagers given direct permission to live on their own in a dangerous city because they have both been on their own for so long that no one blinks an eye

[mavericks-circuit]

People on tiktok are trying to argue with me about the relevance of the Fox family to the batfamily lineup and I actually can't spare my breath on these people or I'll hurt someone. Lucius has been working alongside Bruce since the early days. He was like. OG BATFAM. Before batfam was even a thing he was part of it. When batfam was like 6 people Max HE WAS THERE. don't. Annoy me.

[gabegiles777]

ending of Batgirl 2000

I'm still upset at how Batgirl (2000) #73 ended by reversing every ounce of character growth and thematic development Cass had experienced since her introduction in No Man's Land but I think I have figured out how to accept her temporary killing of Shiva as in character, though that should never have been the final issue. Her reaction and growth from handling her decision and mistakes needed to be explored. Unfortunately, we got Cass as a villain and Cass in Hong Kong instead. I know the metatextual explanation is that the page was preparing to either kill off Cass or turn her into a villain but I'm trying to figure out how to have it as an action that she takes that doesn't shred her prior characterization, especially after she refuses to kill Shiva in issue 25.

Does it fit that Cass is following her behavior that was shown in issue 19 where she values other people's wishes that will make them happier even when it goes against her moral code and hurts her? In issue 19, the mother wants the execution to occur while Cass is against allowing anyone to die but when she sees how upset the woman is at the idea of her child's killer living, she accedes and allows the execution even though she feels like a cruel killer for allowing it to occur. Similarly, Shiva wants to die and Cass is depressed enough from her feelings of failure in the earlier issues to be unwilling to argue unlike in issue 25 when she was unwilling to kill Shiva even though it's what she wanted. Cass' failure to save people in issues 71-72, her failure to help Victor Fries and his wife, and her failure to protect Bludhaven's people added up to her feeling worthless. Is this the explanation that everyone else already figured out or is there a more in character reason that I'm missing?

[hyperfixatedfandomer]

Duke really is special bc the way he got Damian, in his peak “Everyone sucks, I’m the best” era to like him in RECORD time is insane

Look at my boy, reading Dami like an open book yet treating him like a normal kid. He has no idea he’s about to get acquired into the Wayne family🤭

[nghtwng030]

HOLYYYY the rendering is so hard and I'm hating it so far 😭

[aingeal98]

Thinking about all the potential of an Oracle and Batwoman team up. How their moral codes differ from the bat standard in similar ways while also being unique enough that there could be some friction. How their vigilante personalities could either work really well together professionally or clash due to abrasiveness. How Kate would take one look at Babs and Dinah and see something is up there. How their experience with the government and military could lead to some really interesting foiling.

And instead we get this.

[dyke-terra]

And she literally hadn’t been to war.

[aingeal98]

HELP I forgot about that 😭 I can't believe dc writers get paid to create Wattpad fanfiction levels of dialogue

[dyke-terra]

I made this a while ago about this specific panel and it still drives me insane.

[roguewanda]

Can't stand how people are so dismissive of Steph's actions in War Games. "She was reckless and decided to start a gang war" no she fucking didn't, she was expressly trying to stop gang wars. Was enacting such a complicated plan without telling anyone a rash decision? Yeah, sure, but she was a teenager trying to prove herself to a mentor who fired her for no good reason and was always unfair to her. The only reason her plan failed was because Bruce refused to tell her any of his secret identities, which even Catwoman was shocked by. A Robin should know Batman's secret identities, so shit like this doesn't happen!

[ladyloveandjustice]

The Steph-cuts-her-hair-short-because-it-bothers-her-under-her-Spoiler-mask to Steph-now-has-her-hair-just-hanging-there-loosely-getting-sweaty-under-her-hood-and-in-her-face pipeline saddens me.

I know it's not popular to obsess over practicality in superhero comics (And BQM even included a little jab at fans like me complaining about her hair in her Batgirl solo THANKS BRYAN) (the Babscowl bothers me less than her current look though because at least the cowl keeps it out of her face)

But the fact the comics showed her actively worrying about her hair:

Then deciding to go with a ponytail sticking out to deal with this:

THEN cutting it short to deal with it:

Just made her feel really real to me. It was one of the things that made me connect to her so hard, that she felt like a real teenage girl even in the minor details like that. And the fact this was all implied, she never SAID that the ponytail was to deal with her hair under the mask, she never SAID the hair being short was to help with the mask, it was just something you noticed if you remember that Robin #25 panel and connected the dots.

It also SAYS something about Steph. The fact she cut her hair for the sake of being Spoiler shows how much more she prioritizes her life as a superhero over her civilian life, and how she took it even more seriously as time passed. It also gave the implication she likes to be comfortable, which you could see extend to her choice in a really practical costume.

But that kind of started slowly disintegrating as time went on, and while teen me was dramatic about it, I do look back on it and be like, "man, I miss that careful continuity in the little details of her life".

[willobert-deactivated20200315]

Black Canary Appreciation Post since y’all love to sleep on my girl so much

  Her Canary Cry is strong af. My girl can break things, shatter metal, kill aliens, rip almost anyone’s head off with it. 

“She possesses a incredible degree of control over her vocal cords. This enables her to mimic sounds and generate any sound she desires.“

“Canary Cry has been able to reach 300 decibels,which is enough to make a person’s ears start bleeding even if they’re not the target.”

MARTIAL ARTS. She is one of the most skilled martial artists in DC. She is an expert at hand-to-hand combat. 

She is a very important member of Justice League. Even led it. 

In Young Justice, Black Canary provides counseling to the team after tragedies.

She offered training to the girls she (they) has rescued.

here she is, holding her own against some Amazons. (AMAZONS, PEOPLE.) 

And here she is kicking some *** because why not? 

She doesn’t take shit from anyone. And i mean ANYONE.

Remember when Superman&Batman&Wonder Woman had secret meetings and tried to lead the league behind her back? NAH-UH.

WHAT DID SHE DO? THAT.

“In our line of work, asking a favor means asking someone to put their life on the line. Dinah Lance, The Black Canary, doesn’t even hesitate one moment.”

“Why should i fear you?” 

“Because i fight like a girl.”

To summarize, Dinah Lance is a very powerful, strong, caring, kind, badass, amazing, talented, smart woman who deserves to be loved and appreciated way more. 

[cicanddesist]

I catch myself wanting so badly to like David Cain, especially when Cass' flashbacks show her being happy, but it's like. Man. He's such a shitty dude. He turned his daughter into a weapon. He kept childhood from her. He kept language from her. No amount of happy moments like this make what he did any less horrible. Cass is forever burdened by guilt and self-hatred and the idea that she only exists for what she can do, good or bad. A smile when she was a kid doesn't change that.