Morrivar

The feverish ramblings of an nerd extraordinaire.

[my-midlife-crisis]

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Could be different groups in the same crowd.

For some reason, I strongly doubt OP is giving an unbiased, objective account of the situation, with full context.

This feels like a distraction from the whole "left-wing terrorist" thing, and much of the left's abysmal reactions (such as acting like Kirk deserved it), which many people on the left hated. You can't retroactively justify Kirk's death by pointing a finger at the right's reactions. Y'all sure weren't forgiving Kirk. So this is hypocritical at best.

He also acknowledged Erika had a differing opinion, and they might be able to convince him he's wrong. Literally in the same breath.

Also, it's kind of hilarious for folks who've openly hated and accused Trump of being the worst kind of person imaginable for a decade now to say "he shouldn't hate us back!"

Admitting you do or feel something is not the same as endorsing that behavior.

[morrivar]

It is entirely correct, both morally and according to Christian principles, for the widow to forgive the murderer while the magistrate seeks justice.

These are perfectly compatible and in fact complimentary positions. It’s almost like different people have different roles in a society.

[my-midlife-crisis]

and is it morally compatible to show a funeral on TV with fireworks and large TV monitors? They caught the shooter. They will get justice. Please show me where a magistrate is allowed to seek "justice" aka political vengeance in the bible.

[morrivar]

Yes, all of these things are morally compatible.

A major function of a funeral is to celebrate the life and legacy of the departed. The memorial was beautiful and the only people who didn’t like it are idiots who hate everyone involved anyway.

And there are far more people responsible for this than just the shooter. He didn’t decide Charlie needed to be killed all on his own. Everyone responsible for pushing the narrative that even normie conservatives like Kirk are existential threats must face consequences.

[my-midlife-crisis]

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Could be different groups in the same crowd.

For some reason, I strongly doubt OP is giving an unbiased, objective account of the situation, with full context.

This feels like a distraction from the whole "left-wing terrorist" thing, and much of the left's abysmal reactions (such as acting like Kirk deserved it), which many people on the left hated. You can't retroactively justify Kirk's death by pointing a finger at the right's reactions. Y'all sure weren't forgiving Kirk. So this is hypocritical at best.

He also acknowledged Erika had a differing opinion, and they might be able to convince him he's wrong. Literally in the same breath.

Also, it's kind of hilarious for folks who've openly hated and accused Trump of being the worst kind of person imaginable for a decade now to say "he shouldn't hate us back!"

Admitting you do or feel something is not the same as endorsing that behavior.

[morrivar]

It is entirely correct, both morally and according to Christian principles, for the widow to forgive the murderer while the magistrate seeks justice.

These are perfectly compatible and in fact complimentary positions. It’s almost like different people have different roles in a society.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

So his actual take was more nuanced. And I assume he was including self-defense deaths.

Gee, I wonder why westenraskiss turned off the reblogs on a post where they justify terrorism.

>I said “death.” Very big difference, pal.

"You can't make inferences from context because I didn't explicitly make excuses for murder and only implied the guy deserved it in some way."

So somehow someone who's 200% aware of how they say things...somehow didn't realize their OP could be interpreted as condoning murder, and only disavows it after multiple challenges.

At best, you phrased OP extremely poorly. At worst, you're lying.

Which means you're wrong about your awareness, or you're wrong about defending terrorism.

I shouldn't have to say this, but nobody hostile ping them, or harass them in any way. This is not some sort of deniable statement. I 100% mean it.

It won't change their mind, it won't even be constructive, it'll just make you feel better for yelling at a Bad Person™.

[justkillingtimeuntiltomorrow2]

I mean...I have to point out that saying 'the death of X person can sometimes be a good thing' and then tying that precise statement back to Kirk's murder is, in fact, suggesting murder can sometimes be good. The fact that you said 'death' instead of murder is ultimately irrelevant when the death you are talking about was, in fact, a murder.

I understand that it may have been meant as any and all deaths in general, but that doesn't change that you are unequivocally and directly including a very specific murder in that wide swath. Don't try and motte and bailey this shit. In ordinary moral conversation, saying “a person’s death can be good” when the death in question was a murder is not a harmless semantic distinction.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

it took them several post before they actually disavowed The killing.

And even then they were mostly concerned with the right wing escalating in response, and not the actual wrong of the murder itself, you'll note.

Also since when did anyone ever say that only terrorist organizations treat killed people as martyrs? Are they just making up a stereotype from thin air to try and get moral leverage over right wingers?

[morrivar]

There is no logical connection between “this person’s death is good” and “you shouldn’t kill this person”. These are incongruent statements. If his death is good, then so is killing him.

[maaarine]

Why aren't we talking about the real reason male college enrollment is dropping? (Celeste Davis, Oct 6 2024)

"White flight is a term that describes how white people move out of neighborhoods when more people of color move in.

White flight is especially common when minority populations become the majority. That neighborhood then declines in value.

Male flight describes a similar phenomenon when large numbers of females enter a profession, group, hobby or industry—the men leave. That industry is then devalued.

Take veterinary school for example:

In 1969 almost all veterinary students were male at 89%.

By 1987, male enrollment was equal to female at 50%.

By 2009, male enrollment in veterinary schools had plummeted to 22.4%

A sociologist studying gender in veterinary schools, Dr. Anne Lincoln says that in an attempt to describe this drastic drop in male enrollment, many keep pointing to financial reasons like the debt-to-income ratio or the high cost of schooling.

But Lincoln’s research found that “men and women are equally affected by tuition and salaries.”

Her research shows that the reason fewer men are enrolling in veterinary school boils down to one factor: the number of women in the classroom.

For every 1% increase in the proportion of women in the student body, 1.7 fewer men applied.

One more woman applying was a greater deterrent than $1000 in extra tuition! (…)

Since males had dominated these professions for centuries, you would think they would leave slowly, hesitantly or maybe linger at 40%, 35%, 30%, but that’s not what happens.

Once the tipping point reaches majority female- the men flee. And boy do they flee!

It’s a slippery slope. When the number of women hits 60% the men who are there make a swift exit and other men stop joining.

Morty Schapiro, economist and former president of Northwestern University has noticed this trend when studying college enrollment numbers across universities:

“There’s a cliff you fall off once you become 60/40 female/male. It then becomes exponentially more difficult to recruit men.”

Now we’ve reached that 60% point of no return for colleges.

As we’ve seen with teachers, nurses and interior design, once an institution is majority female, the public perception of its value plummets.

Scanning through Reddit and Quora threads, many men seem to be in agreement - college is stupid and unnecessary.

A waste of time and money. You’re much better off going into the trades, a tech boot camp or becoming an entrepreneur. No need for college. (…)

When mostly men went to college? Prestigious. Aspirational. Important.

Now that mostly women go to college? Unnecessary. De-valued. A bad choice. (…)

School is now feminine. College is feminine. And rule #1 if you want to safely navigate this world as a man? Avoid the feminine.

But we don’t seem to want to talk about that."

[xcziel]

very good tags from @downwarddnaspiral

[tiggymalvern]

These guys are so dumb, and tragic. Any straight guy with an ounce of self-confidence should join the majority female classes for a better chance of getting laid. That's why Mads Mikkelsen trained as a dancer (and it worked LOL)

[siryouarebeingmocked]

"Any man with an ounce of self-confidence couldn't possibly walk away from a situation because he doesn't want to face an environment that is systemically sexist against him."

Interesting definition of "confidence" you have there.

The irony is that mocking men for being weak sissies is actually traditionalist, Patriarchal, "toxic masculinity" standards.

Of course, feminists do that a lot.

You did notice the lack of actual men saying these are their reasons, right? It's basically just people talking about what they think men are like.

[aslanscompass]

Funny that OP refers to veterinary medicine as an example. My dad was a large animal vet for 35 years. all but two years at the same location. The thing is, when he was in vet school, it was majority large animal med--horses, cows, farm animals. These days, vet graduates are overwealmingly headed for small animal practice--cats, dogs, other pets. Large animal work is mostly done on-site, outdoors, in all weather. Most large-animal practioners frequently have to work after-hours, weekends and holidays, because the cattle don't take vacation. It's also primarily rural. Small animal vets work indoors, with animals that are brought to them, and can often send emergency cases to emergency clinics, esp. in urban areas. I'd wager the percentage of female large animal vets hasn't changed--but the percentage of large animal vets in the overall total has.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Tangent: James Herriot said both his kids wanted to follow him into vet work, but this was the 1940/50s, where it mostly meant working with big animals in open air.

So he talked his daughter into becoming a regular doctor. Jr. stayed a vet. Even worked with dad.

Herrior also noted that vets were becoming more pet-focused and indoor at the time of writing (70-early 80s).

Tangent to the tangent: I seem to recall that female and male doctors usually have different career paths. Women are more likely to be pediatricians, GPs, family doctors. Men are more likely to go into trauma and surgery (which pay better).

[morrivar]

Also, let’s not pretend that the moment an industry becomes female dominated it doesn’t change drastically.

Women make workplaces incredibly hostile for men the second they’re in charge, which usually happens long before they’re the majority.

Women utilize HR at much higher rates than men do, and men and women prefer different things in the workplace.

So I’m sure there actually is some validity to the concept of male flight, but it’s not about the public perception of a profession’s value.

It’s about men not wanting to deal with the drama and hostility that comes with being in the minority under women.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Come to think, it's...interesting how feminists say male-dominated environments are inherently hostile to women and that's bad, but the reverse is assumed to be a problem with men, not the environment. Which is the exact sort of misandric behavior that puts off men.

[maaarine]

Why aren't we talking about the real reason male college enrollment is dropping? (Celeste Davis, Oct 6 2024)

"White flight is a term that describes how white people move out of neighborhoods when more people of color move in.

White flight is especially common when minority populations become the majority. That neighborhood then declines in value.

Male flight describes a similar phenomenon when large numbers of females enter a profession, group, hobby or industry—the men leave. That industry is then devalued.

Take veterinary school for example:

In 1969 almost all veterinary students were male at 89%.

By 1987, male enrollment was equal to female at 50%.

By 2009, male enrollment in veterinary schools had plummeted to 22.4%

A sociologist studying gender in veterinary schools, Dr. Anne Lincoln says that in an attempt to describe this drastic drop in male enrollment, many keep pointing to financial reasons like the debt-to-income ratio or the high cost of schooling.

But Lincoln’s research found that “men and women are equally affected by tuition and salaries.”

Her research shows that the reason fewer men are enrolling in veterinary school boils down to one factor: the number of women in the classroom.

For every 1% increase in the proportion of women in the student body, 1.7 fewer men applied.

One more woman applying was a greater deterrent than $1000 in extra tuition! (…)

Since males had dominated these professions for centuries, you would think they would leave slowly, hesitantly or maybe linger at 40%, 35%, 30%, but that’s not what happens.

Once the tipping point reaches majority female- the men flee. And boy do they flee!

It’s a slippery slope. When the number of women hits 60% the men who are there make a swift exit and other men stop joining.

Morty Schapiro, economist and former president of Northwestern University has noticed this trend when studying college enrollment numbers across universities:

“There’s a cliff you fall off once you become 60/40 female/male. It then becomes exponentially more difficult to recruit men.”

Now we’ve reached that 60% point of no return for colleges.

As we’ve seen with teachers, nurses and interior design, once an institution is majority female, the public perception of its value plummets.

Scanning through Reddit and Quora threads, many men seem to be in agreement - college is stupid and unnecessary.

A waste of time and money. You’re much better off going into the trades, a tech boot camp or becoming an entrepreneur. No need for college. (…)

When mostly men went to college? Prestigious. Aspirational. Important.

Now that mostly women go to college? Unnecessary. De-valued. A bad choice. (…)

School is now feminine. College is feminine. And rule #1 if you want to safely navigate this world as a man? Avoid the feminine.

But we don’t seem to want to talk about that."

[xcziel]

very good tags from @downwarddnaspiral

[tiggymalvern]

These guys are so dumb, and tragic. Any straight guy with an ounce of self-confidence should join the majority female classes for a better chance of getting laid. That's why Mads Mikkelsen trained as a dancer (and it worked LOL)

[siryouarebeingmocked]

"Any man with an ounce of self-confidence couldn't possibly walk away from a situation because he doesn't want to face an environment that is systemically sexist against him."

Interesting definition of "confidence" you have there.

The irony is that mocking men for being weak sissies is actually traditionalist, Patriarchal, "toxic masculinity" standards.

Of course, feminists do that a lot.

You did notice the lack of actual men saying these are their reasons, right? It's basically just people talking about what they think men are like.

[aslanscompass]

Funny that OP refers to veterinary medicine as an example. My dad was a large animal vet for 35 years. all but two years at the same location. The thing is, when he was in vet school, it was majority large animal med--horses, cows, farm animals. These days, vet graduates are overwealmingly headed for small animal practice--cats, dogs, other pets. Large animal work is mostly done on-site, outdoors, in all weather. Most large-animal practioners frequently have to work after-hours, weekends and holidays, because the cattle don't take vacation. It's also primarily rural. Small animal vets work indoors, with animals that are brought to them, and can often send emergency cases to emergency clinics, esp. in urban areas. I'd wager the percentage of female large animal vets hasn't changed--but the percentage of large animal vets in the overall total has.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Tangent: James Herriot said both his kids wanted to follow him into vet work, but this was the 1940/50s, where it mostly meant working with big animals in open air.

So he talked his daughter into becoming a regular doctor. Jr. stayed a vet. Even worked with dad.

Herrior also noted that vets were becoming more pet-focused and indoor at the time of writing (70-early 80s).

Tangent to the tangent: I seem to recall that female and male doctors usually have different career paths. Women are more likely to be pediatricians, GPs, family doctors. Men are more likely to go into trauma and surgery (which pay better).

[morrivar]

Also, let’s not pretend that the moment an industry becomes female dominated it doesn’t change drastically.

Women make workplaces incredibly hostile for men the second they’re in charge, which usually happens long before they’re the majority.

Women utilize HR at much higher rates than men do, and men and women prefer different things in the workplace.

So I’m sure there actually is some validity to the concept of male flight, but it’s not about the public perception of a profession’s value.

It’s about men not wanting to deal with the drama and hostility that comes with being in the minority under women.

[balioc]

For whatever it's worth:

In my experience, if you actually go to the trouble of "constructing [gender] identities" for other people to adopt, they love it and it goes amazingly. If you do it with any skill, at least.

Indeed, you could convincingly argue that one of the major tactical mistakes of the recent left-identitarian movement - one of the major causes for its ever-less-deniable failure to secure the kind of cultural traction that it wants - has been its insistence on dissolving existing [gender] identities while stubbornly refusing to construct any real new ones to replace them. "Something kinda androgynous" and "whatever, you do you" were never going to cut it.

[barryogg]

What does "real" mean in this context? I think if we massage P.K.Dickian definition of "reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away" a bit, we can come up with "that which doesn't fade away when the original inventors stop proselytizing it".

But anyways, to channel BA a bit, such a thing cannot happen because it could result in a creation of a positive identity men could have. Under identitarian progresivism, cishet men as a group cannot be allowed to have a positive identity because that would interfere with the goal of herding them into accepting their lot as ideological cannon fodder.

Previously, previously.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Hmmm.

[morrivar]

A new set of gender identities won’t ever succeed, at least not in any lasting way, because the existing gender norms weren’t just fabricated by some people sitting around pontificating.

They’ve developed organically over thousands of years of societal interactions, and they are what they are because they describe something real and true about men and women.

Sure, every society has some things unique in its gender norms compared to other societies, but there is a great deal of basically universal overlap that developed independently pretty much everywhere people have ever been.

[morrivar]

So the shipf*gs are still at it.

I saw this posted under the hashtag "dinluke".

If Anakin wanted grandkids, why the hell would he be pushing for Luke and Din to get it on?

Did nobody teach these children how babies are made?

Gay fetishization is one hell of a drug.

[morrivar]

A much delayed update to this saga:

Nobody gets to dictate what I post on this blog. I make no money off this so I don’t owe any of you anything.

[pr1nceshawn]

What You Say About Mental Illness vs What You Actually Mean.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

I know someone with diagnosed social anxiety. Both of the first panels describe her.

Also, figurative uses of terms are a thing, and the first panel lady isn’t even claiming to have social anxiety disorder, just to be socially anxious.

Depression does have a commonly used non-medical definition, and even the clinical form can manifest in many ways other than wanting to die, or being unable to get out of bed.

I’m not sure why College Humor decided to make a federal case out of this, but it did so very poorly.

[morrivar]

It's amazing they're acting as though they're correcting misunderstandings about these disorders while leaning into the patently false "depression = sad" misconception.

Chronic depression can manifest as sadness or suicidality, but has little to do directly with either

Depression is merely a lowered or "depressed" mood. It is essentially a deficit of any of a number of "positive" moods and traits.

Energy, enthusiasm, motivation, happiness, joy (which is not happiness), love, and many more things are on that list.

[chirmartir]

Ch👍

[newplayingsmash]

Oddly satisfying

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Michael Westen : [narrative]  Not all hiding places are created equal. Generally speaking, a good hiding place is hard to find but easy to access. On rare occasions, for the most sensitive material, you have to go a step further and find a hiding place even you can't get to. (418 - Last Stand)

It's always a challenge hiding something sensitive that you might need quickly. Any hiding place involves a trade-off between security and access. Hide something in the sewer main under your floor, and it's secure, but good luck getting to it. Hide something in your sock drawer and it's easy to get to, but hardly secure. The best hiding places are easy to get to but tough to find. The do-it-yourself versions are known in the spy trade as slicks -easy to slip something in, easy to slide it out.  -(Burn Notice Episode 209: Good Soldier)

[morrivar]

Several of these fail his definition once their batteries run dry.

Also on that first one, who has all that space in their wall just sitting empty? That's a deep ass wall to not even have insulation.

[beardedmrbean]

this is tougher than it should be given the title

[beardedmrbean]

I like the way you think

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Body temp (save on heating and clothes), discount, or wifi.

[morrivar]

Being a Wi-Fi Hotspot doesn't mean you have Internet connection, so it's pretty useless by itself.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

Also, Batman punches anyone who’s threatening others, including supervillains, mass murderers, and rich people.

He also donates a great deal to charity.

Magneto is a straight up racial supremacist. He has tried to create an  ethnostate for der ubermenschen.

It’s ironic that a progressive supports him just because he’s an Angry Minority™.

…Ivy has mind-controlled, enslaved and murdered people. 

That’s literally her main shtick.

Previously.

[drtomt18]

Batman/Bruce Wayne does not “go around beating up poor people”. He donates enormous amounts of money to try and help people get off the streets. On more than one occasion, he has desperately tried to reason with the fucking JOKER. He knows that a vast majority of his rouges gallery are people who were delt a raw deal by someone, or that society has failed them on a fundamental level that left them broken and angry. And he wants to help them. He offers jobs to goons who want an out, helps fund rehabilitation centers, soup kitchens. Even out of the cape, Bruce Wayne never stops being a hero to the people of Gotham. I’m sick of this new era of “actual batman is a CRAZY BILLIONAIR WHO HATES THE MENTALLY ILL”

Fuck you. Go watch the Batman cartoon. Watch him hold a little girl’s hand so she doesn’t have to die alone.

[riflebrass]

“Hurr rich man bad” is such a dumb take. I get that the “invincibility” cheat where he can outsmart ANYONE with enough planning can be tiresome for some people, but the rich boy gives his all for his community.

That episode where he held a little girl’s hand while she died was from an episode of Batman Beyond that tied in with Justice League. Ace from the Royal Flush gang had some kind of brain tumor or some shit that gave her the ability to read minds and put images into them. As time progressed her condition worsened and her powers became too much for her to control. Her mind was bending the very fabric of reality. It was decided she was too dangerous to be left alive. SOMEONE had to go in and kill a child to save Gotham. Batman volunteered with no intention of killing her. Ace was a villain, she has tried to kill him and the rest of the Justice League before when Joker was manipulating her. She’s still just a kid. She’s dying, she’s alone, and she’s afraid. What she needed more than anything in the world was a friend so he went in to be with her and comfort her in her final moments before her condition killed her.

There was also an episode of the animated series where Harley Quinn got released from Arkham. To reward herself for her hard work she bought a dress. Due to a misunderstanding she accidentally set off a shoplifting alarm and not wanting to get arrested she ran. Bruce just happened to be out shopping and saw the whole thing so he suited up and chased her around Gotham trying to talk her down before someone got hurt. When he finally caught her she had to go back to the loony bin for a little bit, but as a reminder of all the progress she made Batman made sure she got her dress.

There’s also a villain who is also a victim. There’s this vintriloquist with a double personality. He thinks his dummy is a real mobster and he is forced to serve him. After he got out of Arkham Bruce got him a job at Wayne Enterprises working in the mail room. Ex-cons have a hard time finding a job after they get released, but Bruce wanted to take a chance on him because giving him a leg up to rebuild his life will help prevent a relapse.

I never really read the comics but the cartoons are full of this kind of stuff.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

The Prep Time meme is a meme, not reality.

Though the occasional comics writer seems to have bought into it.

[morrivar]

That episode where he held a little girl’s hand while she died was from an episode of Batman Beyond that tied in with Justice League.

I could be wrong because I can't be bothered to look it up, but I'm pretty sure this is backwards.

Pretty sure it's a Justice League episode that hooks in with Batman Beyond.

[whitepeopletwitter]

[biglawbear]

Studies showed that DARE literally increased drug use

[cardenvondraken]

My DARE officer was arrested for possession with intent to distribute.

[psychoticrambling]

in elementary school the DARE officer mentioned that you shouldnt sniff sharpies or white-out and everyone in the back two rows immediately took out their sharpies and liquid white-out to see if they would get high DURING THE DARE PRESENTATION

[coolfrogdad]

It’s called creating job security 👮‍♂️

[tomfooleryprime]

Spent my entire formative years waiting for that inevitable moment when a shady fellow would emerge and offer me, an awkward suburban eight year old with Coke bottle glasses, some crank. For free. Presumably to get me hooked on drugs. That I could not buy because I was 8 years old and had no job.

[heardbook]

I knew a dumbass who found out about whippets through DARE and started doing it like there wasn’t a thought in his empty ass head that maybe it was a bad idea

[cheshireinthemiddle]

I get that we’re making fun of this now, but this is the same mindset paranoid parents had about teaching sex in school.

People were scared that teaching sex in school (necessary) would encourage kids to have sex at earlier ages (possible, given the DARE program’s track record), and we called them paranoid and stupid.

[morrivar]

I'm going to have to quibble with the idea that teaching sex in school is necessary.

For most of human history we got by just fine without sex ed.

Even if we agreed that kids should learn certain things about sex before a certain age, why is it necessary for this to happen in the schools?

[morlock-holmes]

Ok, as an economic idiot, why would we expect capitalism to do a good job allocating scarce goods?

It seems to me that what we would expect from econ 101 is that when the supply of a good is low relative to the demand, the price would increase, thus tending to distribute that good to people who have more wealth, and away from people who have less wealth.

My poor understanding of the market is that what it succeeds at is, when there is a small supply of goods relative to demand, market forces spur the creation of more of the good to meet demand.

But that of course entails that it's actually possible to supply more of the good, i.e. that it is *not* scarce.

In situations where the supply is inherently constrained in some way, wouldn't we expect the price to remain high?

As a concrete example, my Dad's cancer treatment cost him half a million dollars. He does not have half a million dollars. Luckily for us, he has medicare.

If we assume that there is a floor to the cost of cancer treatment, that in some sense the price of his treatment is a rational response to market conditions (in terms of the skilled labor and complicated machines and medicines used to treat it) then why would we expect the cost of that treatment to reach a place where he could afford it out of pocket?

[kaziusklasterzoroaster]

Ok, as an economic idiot, why would we expect capitalism to do a good job allocating scarce goods?

So you believe that you don’t understand capitalism, but you also believe you understand how to replace it? Yeah, you are an idiot. 

that it is *not* scarce.

That’s not what scarce means, retard. 

[morlock-holmes]

I have never in my life claimed to know what should replace capitalism.

Also, "Scarce doesn't mean that something is inherently hard to get, retard" is, uh, not the amazing slam dunk that you think it is.

[morlock-holmes]

So, the question I was trying to ask above is this:

In a situation where the supply of a good can't easily be increased so as to meet demand, wouldn't we expect the price of the good to increase, thereby tending to funnel it towards the wealthy?

And I have gotten a full spectrum of responses from "Yes, we would" to "You're a stupid fucking retard who obviously doesn't understand anything! But yes, we would expect that."

[machine-elf-paladin]

That is a very different question than the one you asked in your first post! Notably, by not using the phrase “good job allocating scarce goods”, it is no longer implicitly comparing the outcome to other potential allocations and making a moral judgement thereof. Which means that the answer required by your final post changes to “Yes, we would” from “Any desirable good of which the supply cannot be increased will tend to be funneled towards powerful segments of society, regardless of economic system.”

[brazenautomaton]

morlock and changing what the thread was about in every post, name a more iconic duo

seriously morlock what is the point of this? people including myself have had this exact conversation with you before. are you pretending not to remember what people said to you? or do you actually not remember it? because like I am not here demanding you be convinced but you aren't saying you're unconvinced, you're saying you never heard the discussion, and once again every time a person compares the responses you get to the question you asked, you change what the question you asked was. like, is this a bit? is it just a bit you do?

[newplayingsmash]

morloc-holmes be like

[unterwaesche]

At its core it's an interesting question for people who really don't know. When people say "capitalism breeds innovation" the knee-jerk reaction from certain types is "hurr durr 16 chicken sandwiches and white cars." But in the cancer treatment scenario, the only thing that can't be improved to be made cheaper and more efficient is the labor. Which is negotiable. Even as it stands right now, half the reason that it costs half a million to get cancer treatment is the blank check from...uh, Medicare.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

>"hurr durr 16 chicken sandwiches

Someone pointed out that those sandwiches are all different. I personally pointed out how many fast food joints regularly introduce new products to lure people in.

Also, I'm pretty sure that stupid meme didn't use burgers, because burgers look less boring.

[morrivar]

Even if they weren't different, and a lot of them are very similar, the reason there are so many is because Chikfila did such a good job while being hated for being owned by Christians, so a thousand other places decided to try to steal their market slot.

[gsirvitor]

[gsirvitor]

In Canada a mature minor is a 7-12 year old, so yes, they will kill a child and harvest their organs because the kid asked them to.

[gsirvitor]

I wish we could vote against it.

[2urban2fantasy-deactivated20241]

[gsirvitor]

[i-hate-ziggers]

Canada and Australia remain as a monument to the fact the founding fathers were right

[wormist-priest]

Shitting and pissing over fully voluntary mercy killings for the terminally ill...

It's an objective positive for both the people whose suffering can be alleviated and society at large.

[gsirvitor]

Someone with a Xi Jinping profile picture finds the governmental killing for the harvest of organs of kids and the mentally ill a societal good?

Imagine my shock.

[you-stand-corrected]

Commies really be out here saying euthanasia of children is a good thing.    Yeah, that tracks.  

[wageronvoluntaryism]

The road from "we promise government healthcare won't lead to death panels, you kooky conspiracy crackpot" to "killing the mental ill and children is a societal good axshually" is predictable short for leftist retards and demons

[you-stand-corrected]

As predictable as the next sunrise.    The slippery slope isn’t a fallacy if it’s fucking real. 

[the-davest-of-uncles]

Leftism is a death cult.

[howlingday]

"They will kill a child and harvest their organs because the kid asked them to."

Forgive me for my ignorance, but... What the fuck is going on over there?

[bretonnianknight]

Theyve always been bad... In the 80s they slaughtered most of the huskies and malamutes because the inuits used them. But this is a new low. And its celebrated

[weatherman667]

It’s not celebrated.

This courts decide that we have a “right to die.”  This lead to extremely hasty laws put into place, to stop people from killing grandma for the inheritence.  The expectation was that it would be expanded later.  The vast majority of Canadians don’t have an opinion, and don’t want to have an opinion and where people should be allowed to die.  We find the whole thing horrifying.

But then the government started recommending suicide.

[bretonnianknight]

You should kill yourself now is no longer an insult but a medical decision

[weatherman667]

And none of us are happy about it.  Most people are don’t want to be offensive, and won’t say anything about it.

[morrivar]

The number one problem with Canadians, right there.

Be offensive. Speak the truth. Grow some damn balls.

[lesserknownwaifus]

[siryouarebeingmocked]

"Are you my mommy?"

"You mean 'mummy'."

"I said what I meant."

[morrivar]

[siryouarebeingmocked]

A…library that runs on taxpayer money and is controlled by the state is “punk”?

Or the ones that exist because powerful capitalists gave away a lot of their money? Like the  Rockefellers? Or Andrew Carnagie?

Also, that academia she complains about? Heavily funded by taxpayers and private donations. 

Most US college loans are federal.

@ancappunk

It probably won’t surprise anyone to learn that thejennnster has me pre-blocked. Ironic for someone who wants to paint themselves as an edgy rebel. fighting against conformity.

[yetanotherdayofdrudgery]

We have late fees so that everyone has access to that particular book.

Also, “punk” as a word has a different definition from “-punk” as a suffix. Yes, the suffix is derived from the word, but the meaning has evolved in its own direction, just like “-gate” as a suffix doesn’t mean the same as “gate” as a word.

[morrivar]

Comparing libraries, for which there is no market demand, with the Internet, for which there is unlimited market demand, is about the stupidest thing I’ve read today.

[alanwilsonwatts]

“If God were the sort of being most Christians suppose him to be, he would be beside himself with boredom listening to their whinings and flatteries, their redundant requests and admonitions, not to mention the asinine poems set to indifferent tunes which are solemnly addressed to him as hymns.”

— Alan Watts

[apenitentialprayer]

“A child kicks his legs rhythmically through excess, not absence, of life. Because children have abounding vitality, because they are in spirit fierce and free, therefore they want things repeated and unchanged. They always say, “Do it again”; and the grown-up person does it again until he is nearly dead. For grown-up people are not strong enough to exult in monotony. But perhaps God is strong enough to exult in monotony. It is possible that God says every morning, “Do it again” to the sun; and every evening, “Do it again” to the moon. It may not be automatic necessity that makes all daisies alike; it may be that God makes every daisy separately, but has never got tired of making them. It may be that He has the eternal appetite of infancy; for we have sinned and grown old, and our Father is younger than we. The repetition in Nature may not be a mere recurrence; it may be a theatrical encore.” - G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy.