This is a blog where we call out the irony of bigots, especially anti-endos. Though, we also cover / accept: racists ( including white racism ), ableists, transphobes ( including transandrophobes ), homophobes, and more!
I guess you could say this blog is another "this is [bigotry]" like this-is-sanism and thisis--ableism, but specifically highlighting the irony of the bigots.
Our asks are always open, so feel free to send us any bigoted irony you've seen! We're also ok with people tagging us in posts.
Note that we DO NOT condone / promote harassing anyone regardless of their beliefs! This does not include respectful discussion if the user participates in discourse. We don't cover names so that you can just block and move on if you wish.
Blogs we recommend for information about plurality if you truly need to educate yourself: cdd-safe-haven , education-system , sysmedsaresexist , cambriancrew , guardiansystem , and most "this-is-[blank] blogs! And be aware that blogs like "antimisinfo" are NOT AT ALL a good resource due to ignoring all research on non-disordered and non-traumagenic plurality due to sources supposedly "not being professional."
Ways to check if a source is credible can be found here: https://www.tumblr.com/jesterattack/817138319566749696/how-to-determine-if-the-source-is-credible-1-is
There's no DNI, but we block freely — it's not personal ( it so totally is, lol ). For real though, we don't really check who interacts with our posts.
If you feel you have been mistakenly posted, please message @just-another-sys privately.
saying endogenic plurality can't exist because the DSM only includes traumagenic origins is like saying skydiving can't possibly be a real thing because the ICD-10 (you know, the complete manual for everything humans can do ever) has no category for "falls from a plane"
it's actually cultural appropriation to say you were """"falling"""" when you were """""skydiving""""" because some people fall from trees, cliffs, scaffolding, and/or stepladders and it can be really devastating to them, and it's really insensitive to say you ALSO "fell" but you had fun with it somehow
Unsurprisingly, @/this-is-little-joy is NOT a safe space for non-traumagenic systems!
The owner refused to take accountability for their words in the blogs' pinned intro raising a massive red flag and concerning the community that they don't support endogenics. Plus they still haven't changed it to actually be welcoming and clearly supportive of all origins! This alone should be enough evidence that they're not truly a safe space for anyone in the plural community who isn't traumagenic.
Screenshots under the cut if you really want to see just how fast they run from fixing a simple problem!
hey, anti endos? uh, not sure how going up to someone and saying "you deserve trauma" for being plural in a way you don't approve of is "fighting against ableism", do you think you could tell me? my oh-so-tiny little brain doesn't seem to be getting it 🥺
I did not think I had to clarify so soon, but "anti-endo" systems are not valid. Do not follow me if you think anti-endo "systems" are "fine".
Note: this is an edit of an anti-endo post saying mixed-origin systems are not valid. It is not fakeclaiming anti-endos, but mocking how they invalidate other system origins.
Elli: You got one part right! Pro endos do support the existence of endogenic plurals! Although you kind of fell flat on your face with the second part of this post! Endogenic plurals are not claiming to have DID (dissociative identity disorder) without trauma! They are however claiming to have plurality that formed their system for reasons other then trauma. You see, plurality is just a symptom of DID/OSDD, and not the entire disorder! As with many other illnesses/disabilities/disorders people are able to have symptoms of them without having one.
Someone: *posts about trauma, using the tag #anti-endo, and proceeds to get upset when people tell them endos experience trauma as well*
Sure, it may be a bit far to invade their dni, but it's the internet and boundaries like that don't work well here. Plus, I can guarantee that some of them were probably traumagenic systems telling them endogenic plurals have trauma too, it's just not what initially created their system.
No one's really trolling anyone here, just spreading validation and information in an unconventional and silly way. Everyone can experience trauma, and everyone reacts differently!
Sometimes that reaction doesn't create a system, but it still feels like they need it so they create one ( willomancy or tuplamancy ) and others end up becoming one by other means ( endogenic ). Hell, sometimes they're a system before ever even experiencing trauma!
Just because someone's creation was different doesn't mean they're not valid.
[ Highlighted Text: I won't respect DNI (do not interact) when they think people's existence isn't real, or read the links, think about yourself, become a better person, nobody is asking you to join a cult ffs (for fuck's sake); you're a predator by allowing children on your fetish blog; cultish behavior, encourage and refuse responsibility, actively seeking out people like those who have disorders; this is totally normal, here's the article that's not official or helpful at all to spread misinformation; it's only an issue if it's you, when it comes to other people, look like the victim and cry wolf, being a hateful person; they're learning things about themselves and are expressing themselves without hurting anyone; we only make posts of you to tell you to stop, at least not in a hostile way, only joking and shitposting, stop being delusional. ]
WOW there is a lot wrong with this one, folks! Firstly, I'd like to say that "allowing minors on a fetish blog" isn't inherently bad. Most kinks and fetishes are paraphilias, and beings between the ages of 13-17 should also be allowed to safely explore what they like since that's typically around the time of starting puberty.
Secondly, I will say that not listing if they themselves are an adult or not on such a blog can be unsafe for everyone. Minors should be allowed to explore, but not within the same spaces as adults. However, it is highly implied by them saying "Minors interact with caution" that they are an adult and the rest of the bio makes it clear what type of blog it is. Someone in the kink community not stating their exact age doesn't automatically make them a predator, especially when they themselves are not purposely interacting with minors in a way that's predatory.
Now that the paramisia and anti-kink bullshit is out of the way, it's time to talk about the anti-endo side of this post! "Cultish behavior" is an absurd take from beings (anti-endos) that refuse actual real science, just because it's... "Not official." Like, what is even considered official by you, then? And if you mean studies done by people who are legally scientists / doctors / psychologists, then you did not look at the sources we provide. It's true that some surveys are conducted by people that don't have degrees, but why does that matter? It's about collecting data to show and provide information about all types of plurality for those scientists.
Let me also point out that "looking like the victim and playing wolf," "targeting people with disorders," and "spreading misinformation" is exactly what anti-endos do, even if they don't realize it. In the same post, they state that, "they're learning about themselves and are expressing themselves without harming anyone," which is exactly what non-traumagenic systems and other plural-adjacent beings are doing. Not to mention, "we only make posts telling you to stop" while simultaneously admitting that they attack being's identities "only in a joking and shitposting way." Yeah that's just called bullying and then playing victim when we call it out.
And to end it off, they tell beings to "stop being delusional" as if that's not literally just a part of plurality. Telling someone who experiences delusions to not be delusional is not only absurd, but can be extremely dangerous and harmful. Yet you say you're not harming anyone? The irony is unparalleled...
Below the cut is the bio of the blog in the first image. ( solely for the purpose of not making this post longer than it already is )
Anyways, shout out to @lateralliminality because we think they're awesome and they deserve recognition 💗
Note that we DO NOT condone / promote harassing anyone regardless of their beliefs! Just block and move on if you wish.
[ Highlighted Text: main reason syscourse keeps going around in circles without logical conclusion, anti endos and pro endos talking about endogenic systems in two totally different ways; when I talk about the existence I treat it like conversations about whether God exists; an attack on their personhood, we aren't against their identity just we have different opinions. ]
I've heard this before somewhere... Oh yea, by homophobic and transphobic beings! It's literally so obvious and they still don't get it. 🤦♂️
Note that we DO NOT condone / promote harassing anyone regardless of their beliefs! Just block and move on if you wish.
[ Highlighted Text: endos will be pissed if you don't properly tag your posts with anti endo tags; if you do, post your blogs on lists; not being cool with them invading your spaces; we make our own spot. ]
Hm... I wonder where I've heard that second half from..? Oh right, endogenics! We make our own spaces ( and tags / words ) that antis invade with THEIR hate. And then the posting y'all's blogs on lists? Yea it's so we can block you, which is entirely valid.
Note that we DO NOT condone / promote harassing anyone regardless of their beliefs! Just block and move on if you wish.
"Pro para" paraphile doesn't support "the big 3" and says they don't hate them while saying "they need (conversion) therapy" and that "all pedophiles want to touch children"
Honestly there's nothing else to say. You're not pro para if you don't support all paras just being able to exist. This person actively wants those that have one of "the big 3" to suffer and "get rid" of their attraction.
Oh and "fictophilia is fine but you can't make art of YOUR paras" is just stupid. Make it make sense. It's giving "all paraphiles need therapy to stop being paraphiles except for me" and it's disappointing.
"You're brainwashed big time" says the person brainwashed by society that "pedophile = predator (sooner or later)"... The irony is strong with this one.
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Like you are not a safe space if you exclude people. ALSO it’s so funny they italicized “all” like that’s going to make me go “OH they really are a safe space!” No. You’re literally excluding people. That’s automatically not a safe space.
The anti-endo rhetoric that pro-endos are ableist is wild to me.
How can someone saying that anyone can be plural and a system ableist in anyway, they aren’t denying your existence, and pro-endos tend to be supportive of ALL systems.