Considerably less spooky than implied

Spook | ENFP | 9w1 2w3 p6w7 so/sx

[enfp-and-intj]

Versions of ENFPs

(that I’ve met so far) 

The Popular ENFP - Really flirty, talkative, friendly and would find joy in being a leader. Usually have good looks and using them to their own gain. Will ignore you if you’re a dork to not ruin their reputation. 

The Timid ENFP - The quiet one, usually sit in their group of dorky and awkward friends. Don’t stand out. Very altruistic, maybe too altruistic - this version needs the most protection. Nicest of all ENFPs. 

The Soft ENFP - Less crazy about memes and rainbows. Just a normal, friendly and nice person who prefers solitude more than other ENFPs. A little awkward. Usually into anime/manga/gundam. Best pal is doggo. Draws very well. 

The Nerdy ENFP - Have very few close connections that are also nerdy as them. Smart and caring only for their own circle. Makes awkward jokes a lot and likes to be a little dramatic in every situation. Very idealistic.

The ENFP with Hidden Struggles - Rarely seen in public. Have lesser friends than the timid ENFP. Have memes as profile pictures. This version of ENFP contributes very little to group projects. Nevertheless, treat this one nicely.

[mindjumpthoughts]

@funkymbtifiction could you give enneagram analyses to these short descriptions of different ENFPs, presuming that they are not mistyped! Would be fun!

[spookymbti]

In order:

3w2 or 3w4, soc

9w1, maybe 2 fix depending, also possibly soc

sp/so, maybe 9 fix

possible 4w3, maybe 5 fix?

4w5, sp first?

[spooks-typology]

The Enneagram, Simplified

Below is a simplified overview of the Enneagram types and their wings, useful for introducing people to the theory objectively – I tried my best to keep all descriptions unbiased and to-the-point. They should be okay to print, too, depending on the formatting. Translations into other languages are available in the notes. With that out of the way, the rest is below the cut!

Keep reading

[spooks-typology]

Translations ahoy!

German (DEU) Translation, courtesy of @tsvetaya Polish (PL) Translation, courtesy of @vasirion Dutch (NED) Translation, courtesy of @redeveningsky Italian (ITA) Translation, courtesy of @squirbtkirblox Thanks all :D

[spookymbti]

@funkymbtifiction here you are!

[funkymbtifiction]

How does a sp-blind look in real life? The descriptions of sp-blind seem descriptions of characters from action / adventure movies: People who jump into action recklessly, don't think about how dangerous a situation could be and don't care either, etc... Does sp-blind make people so extremely reckless in real life? Like an action hero?

Not necessarily, although there are exceptions (often with ESXP daredevils).

Of the sp-blinds I know, the things they have in common are:

- Having no savings at the end of the month / living from paycheck to paycheck

- Forgetting to prioritize “essentials” in their budget (like rent, paying the electric bill, fixing the broken heater in the winter, or the a/c in the summer)

- Assuming they are going to “last forever” / that not taking care of their body won’t backfire on them at some future

date (abuse including a poor diet, lack of sleep, forgetting to eat, tiring their eyes with screens, and no exercise)

- Having no sense of when they have had “enough” and need “down time”

- Having almost nothing “comfortable” in their space (not knowing what to buy / what they like / no nesting instinct) OR having a ton of clutter / being a hoarder

SP-blinds often “cling” to people with sp as their lifeline and feel panicky without it since they don’t know how to do basic things for themselves (like budgeting, keeping track of their spending, saving money, setting boundaries, having time at home to calm down and introspect, etc) along those lines.

One sp-blind I know has harmed herself multiple times living in a house where it never occurs to her to fix anything that breaks / she does not know how to do it. She has gone two winters without heat, because she never remembers to fix the broken furnace when it’s not cold outside, and when it is, she has no money to fix it with due to her tendency to over-spend / loan people money she does not have. She went last summer without an a/c also because… same story, it broke and she can’t afford to fix it.

Each sp-blind is different, depending on the core type also.

See this post.

- ENFP Mod

Note by sp-blind ENTP Mod. - I want to add that having a six wing or strong thinking function would ideally cut down on the dumb things that sp blind stereotypes are wont to do. For example, fiscally speaking - the last time I quit my job, I hadn’t planned enough savings to sustain me for the gap in between. I do pay my bills on time, but that’s mostly because it is all online. If it actually involved me remembering to prioritize, go somewhere and pay my bills, I am pretty sure I would learn my lesson after a few shut - offs. Food wise, I have the absolute worst diet though I am trying to work on it. She is right in that I do and did live life like I would live forever. Sp firsts treat their body with a great awareness, mindful of what they consume. Sleep isn’t prioritized if I have some big idea or side projects I am working, or if I have someone online with whom I am really feeling the connection, in a manner of speaking. Not knowing when I have had enough? Yes. Not feeling hunger till my vision goes fuzzy? Why, that’s how I spent most of my teenage and early twenties. I have lived life from biscuit to ramen packet, somehow survived to tell the tale.

About boundaries: This is is kind of a huge thing because the sp users know when they are tired, when they should wind down whereas I have no sense of equitable energy distribution, and can end up drained. I push myself and my body unknowingly beyond its limits, and come down HARD.

Sp people: I hadn’t thought about this consciously till I read about how easily the so/sx defaults to the dynamic of transferring responsibility for their growth and survival on to someone with strong sp. I have through my life gravitated towards high sp users, who are probably the reason why I am actually here to tell you not to do what I did.

(Just because you are sp blind does not mean you don’t have an ounce of self preservation. That is a hard-wired instinct in every single one of us. Be it a homo sapien, or an animal, or a bird. What it means is that you don’t prioritize meeting those needs. What it means is that you will willingly sacrifice sp needs to make sure your soc and sx needs are met. So don’t think all sp blind folks will be penniless junkies, it is dependent on Enneagram, and to some extent cognitive type as well)

- ENTP Mod.

[spookymbti]

 I’d like to add that sp isn’t just about physical awareness of resources/self-preservation, it’s about awareness of your emotional boundaries and resources. Sp-dominants are acutely aware and usually protective of “their space”, who they let into it, and how it’s handled. They’re “reserved”, not usually forthcoming with information about themselves. This plays out differently between sp/so’s and sp/sx’s. Sp/so’s are able to maintain their space and resources and reach out to “gather” more resources via soc in the form of people, connections, etc. They maintain a “soc mask”, their social “persona” or the side they show to the world. Once people are in “their bubble”, the soc mask is dropped and people within that “bubble” are extended sp-privileges, sort of cared for and protected as one of their own. Charity/ENFP mod’s talked before about sp-bonds (becoming exclusive/almost like an sx-bond with a friend, because there was sp-value there — her friend stood up for her and protected her in the soc/social sphere.) Sp/sx’s have a problem, though. Sx requires a shedding of safety, to an extent, a rawness and exposure — “letting someone in.” With sp-dominant sx, this becomes a problem, because the dominant sp is intently focused on maintaining its resources and boundaries. It ends up blocked from forming sx-bonds for the most part. All of this to point out and back up what ENTP mod said: sp-blinds have little to no awareness of their personal boundaries or walls, and it’s easy for them to end up overcommitted and exhausted. I find with my sx-bonds, it’s extremely easy to forget sp, like ENTP mod said, in favor of satisfying soc and sx -- staying up far too late, as well as not forming appropriate boundaries. Thankfully, sp is the most “learnable” or mimicable of the instincts, at least in my thinking (and experience, to an extent -- just that’s a WIP). You can get on a schedule, you can learn to spot when people are encroaching too far on your space, you can learn to form those necessary walls around yourself emotionally.

[funkymbtifiction]

Enneagram question. What's the difference between being a 6 and having anxiety disorder? I believe I am a 3w4 ENTP with 7 and 9 fixes. However, I've struggled with anxiety all of my life and have been diagnosed with anxiety disorder. Just wondering if that means I must have a strong connection to 6 somewhere or not necessarily.

It’s not the same thing at all, so I’m glad you asked.

I think a lot of 6′s have anxiety disorders on top of being a 6, a lot of non-6′s just have anxiety disorders, and some sixes (like me) do not have anxiety disorders.

I read a lot of 6 stuff like ?? because that’s not how my 6 works. It’s cautious. It’s distrustful. It wants to step back and consider before it commits. It has self-doubt and can be indecisive (unable to choose between options, and seeks opinions). It has no natural trust of people in authority. It tests people and tracks their words in contrast with their behavior to see if they’re insincere. It’s ambivalent about most people / things most of the time. It does not like to be “indebted” or “relied” upon, although it always comes through for people out of loyalty.

General misconceptions and online misinformation is why you need an actual Enneagram book (I recommend “The Road Back to You”), so you can read up on in-depth profiles of the good and negative qualities about each number. If you are one of those numbers, you will see both in your life.

The Good & the Bad: On the negative side, 6′s tend to anticipate the worst, are fearful, full of doubt, prone to changing their mind, can be irritatingly contrarian (always playing the devil’s advocate), can be unpredictable, inconsistent, and anti-authority. Young or average-health 6s feel threatened by differences of opinion since it makes them feel unsafe. On the good side, 6′s are focused, linear thinkers, good at completing projects and seeing the consequences of present decisions, loyal to their family and friends, and funny / able to lighten an intense situation through humor. They are also more realistic than 5s.

When deciding on a head fix, you have to discover how you react to fear.

5′s ward off fear with knowledge.

6′s ward off fear with pessimism (focusing on the negative potential).

7′s ward off fear with optimism (refusing to see any negative potential).

In any combo:

Gut:

1 + 6: morals, judgment, duty, caution, pessimism, loyalty, testing (Hermione)

8 + 6: strength, domination, power, pushing, caution, pessimism, loyalty, testing 

9 + 6: numbness, calm, serenity, caution, pessimism, loyalty, testing

Heart:

2 + 6: helping, controlling, love, duty, caution, pessimism, loyalty, testing

3 + 6: ambition, workaholic, success, caution, pessimism, loyalty, testing

4 + 6: identity, uniqueness, drama, emotion, caution, pessimism, loyalty, testing

The main difference between a 6w7 fix and a 7w6 fix are pessimism (6) and optimism (7). The 6 is more willing to face their inner darkness than the 7, who will distract themselves and others with frivolity and fun to avoid “that talk.” 6′s also project negative motives onto others, whereas 7′s ‘re-frame’ their negative experiences into positive ones.

- ENFP Mod

[spookymbti]

I’d also like to add the triads here:

1-6, 2-6: Double/triple compliant (126 is compliancy triad)

4-6, 6-8: Double/triple reactive, reactive triad (468 is reactive triad)

2-6, 6-9: Double/triple passive, conflict avoidant* (2p69 is triple passive)

*only p/phobic 6. cp/counterphobic 6 is still compliancy triad, but isn’t as passive or conflict avoidant.

[ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is]

Enneagram and MBTI

I’m going to talk a bit about correlations between Enneagram and MBTI types and how descriptions borrow from each other, sometimes when they shouldn’t.

For all enneatypes: I’m talking about the core.

Type 1: almost exclusively judgers. More common in TJs than FJs; more common in SJs than NJs; and more common in introverts than extroverts (such that the type most likely to be type 1 is ISTJ with not quite a quarter of ISTJs being type 1). This enneatype doesn’t therefore correlate strongly with any one function and tends not to get confused with a certain type.

Type 2: Strong correlation with Fe, particularly dominant Fe. However, not identical to Fe. The enneatype most concerned with morality is type 1, and it doesn’t particularly discriminate between approaches to morality. 2, along with all of the heart types, is about other people’s responses to them, and while this is often used in MBTI to distinguish between the feeling functions, MBTI feeling is about morality approaches first and foremost. Interestingly, ENFPs are more likely to be type 2 than INFJs (though ISFJs are more likely than either, and ESFPs are less likely than either). Perhaps there is a slight correlation with the Ne-Si axis as well, although ISFPs are very slightly more likely than INFPs. This also might be an issue of either intuition being correlated with type 4 or identification with intuition being correlated with identification with type 4 (see Type 4 below). In summary: Type 2 is about a fear of being unloved or unwanted. It is far more common in feelers. It correlates most strongly with dominant Fe (over half of all ExFJs are type 2) but is not exclusive to Fe users, and a high Fi user who is type 2 will not appear to have Fe to the knowledgeable person as this does not influence one’s approach to morality and individualism. Indeed a type 2 high Fi user will probably excel at tailored individual approaches so as to win the love of each individual.

Type 3: Worth noting that the ESTJ data in the sample I’m working from is insufficient. Type 3 is still relatively common, with ENTJs as the most likely type. Type 3 is noticeably more common in extroverts and the Se-Ni axis (ESTPs and ESFPs both have more type 3s than their Ne-dominant counterparts; a significant number of ENFJs are 3s but very few ESFJs). Therefore we can say it correlates with either Se-Ni or dom Te (as ESFPs are actually less likely than ESTPs to be a type 3) and extroversion. It also tends not to get confused with a certain type though it may mess with (inaccurate) stereotypes of perceivers as scattered and disorganized.

Type 4: Very strongly correlated with Fi-doms, but more so for INFPs. Significant numbers of Fi-auxes as well. Also not uncommon among NFJs.

Type 4 like type 2 is often falsely treated as identical to a feeling function (Fi) rather than sharing in similar goals. In fact, ESFPs are more likely to be 2s than 4s and INFJs are almost twice as likely to be 4s than 2s. The reason for this is likely that 4 is not about individual approaches to morality for all people but individuality specifically in the self (and is not about morality at all). Type 4, moreover, is concerned very much with other people’s reactions and judgment unlike Fi, which may or may not be depending on the individual and their values and health.

Type 5: Very strongly correlated with Ti-dominance but actually absent for ESTPs in the sample, though present with ENTPs. Also strongly correlated with Te-auxes. Present in INFxs though less so than their thinker counterparts. As such, introversion and thinking are the primary deciders here, with a preference for intuitives. This is likely due to the 5′s emphasis on objective mastery (thinking),as well as withdrawal (introversion and to a lesser extent intuition). 5 should not be conflated with Ti, as a result, given that it is per this study also the most common type for both IxTJ types accounting for 2/3 of all INTJs and about 28% of ISTJs.

Type 6: Correlated with high Si. Along with 9, this is one of the only enneatypes that has all MBTI types represented. Also correlated with introversion more than extroversion and sensing more than intuition, though introverted intuitives include many 6s. It’s very slightly more common in feelers than thinkers but this may not be significant. The Si correlation is likely due to the tendency of Si users to prefer clear expectations and be prepared for contingencies, and 6′s security focus.

Type 7: Correlated with both dom Ne and Se at about equal levels (representing about 40% of all extroverted perceiving dominants). No occurrence in dominant Ni or Si users; fairly low incidence in Ne-aux types, slightly higher incidence in Se-aux types. This tracks well with the 7′s desire for external stimulation and new experiences which require engagement with the world and therefore extroversion.

Type 8: strongly correlated with extroversion, especially thinkers (Te-doms and Ti-auxes). Very low incidence in high Fe users. This may be due to the 8′s desire to be protective and dominant, which can be at odds with introverted desires though not exclusive with them, as well as the willingness to be confrontational. There is no marked preference for one function, however, so type 8 should not be assumed to be synonymous with Te as it sometimes erroneously is.

Type 9: Clearly more common with introverts and more so with the sensing introverts (particularly ISFPs; almost 40% are type 9); no similar preference for intuitives among the extroverts, however, though this may be a simple issue of sample size. The Se-auxes are most likely to be 9s, though again all types were represented for this enneatype. There is a slight preference for perceivers; this may be due to the 9′s desire to nonconfrontationally engage with its environment rather than control it (as extroverted judging would). The preference for sensors other than Se users however is unclear.

[bonechains-and-toothpicks]

The MBTI types + screenshotsofdespair posts

ENTJ: 

ENFJ: 

ESFJ: 

ESTJ: 

ENTP: 

ENFP: 

ESFP: 

ESTP: 

INTJ: 

INFJ: 

ISFJ: 

ISTJ: 

INTP: 

INFP: 

ISFP: 

ISTP: 

[intp-fluffy-robot]

last shitpost for tonight, crudely made rlly stereotypical typing flowchart (?) based on vibes

clearly i am no longer thinking

[mbti-notes]

I already sent this question to another blog but I want to read your reply as well. I hope this makes sense. Ni/Ne/Si/Se are perceiving functions taking in informations without judgement, but Ni's inexplainable gut feelings, Se's impulsivity, Si's reluctance to change aren't already a stance? Or are they the result of interaction between functions? Could a sudden inexplicable dislike for someone be Ni-Te-Fi in action, or is it necessarily Fi/Te, Te/Fi? (1/2)

[(2/2) When some XNFJs say they try to see the truth behind someone newly met and not to judge them isn’t it a judgement in itself (½) (2/2) this “stopped judgement”, or is it Ni-Fe-Ti interacting? In short, do perceiving functions only “choose” the direction their attention go to, or do they “express” some kind of judgement even without backup from other functions? thank you for replying.]

Cognitive functions direct where your attention goes. You learn to use a function over time, which means past learning plays a role in how functions develop. For instance, as a child, if you learned that paying attention to “Ni things” can make you more successful in understanding situations or solving problems, then you will become more likely to pay attention to “Ni things”, thus “turning” you into a Ni-dom (theoretically). Past learning/experience is an important component of ego development and this is not always obvious when you read simple function descriptions because they just describe what a function is/does but not how it develops over time.

Past experience gives introverted functions a more efficient way to filter data because introverts would feel quite overwhelmed if they had to attend to every parcel of incoming information, in other words, their “adaptive capability” is being able to filter information through a personal lens. Ni unconsciously compares the patterns you are seeing in present time to patterns you have seen before, in order to guess at what might happen next. This is why intuitions may or may not be accurate; sometimes the comparison to past patterns is valid and sometimes not. Si does the same thing except it compares sensory facts and details that it has previously categorized as promoting/harming sensory comfort. These two perceiving functions do have a “stance” (more like a “filter”) but are not really “judgments” because you are just gathering relevant information but have not yet reached a conclusion.

Here’s an analogy: In writing an essay, you do research by looking through books and resources to find information. You wouldn’t accept everything you read, right? You take down some notes and filter the info you believe is relevant to your essay based on what you know about the topic. But this does not mean your essay is complete or that you have a clear thesis to argue. You need to sort through the info you gathered and organize it into a coherent essay. You might even have to go back and do more research if your thesis is not coming together properly. This is why perceiving and judging functions must work together, and why their interaction makes a big difference in terms of how accurately you see the world.

INFJs will have intuitions about people because of Fe. When Fe is introduced, intuitions start to take on the quality of a judgment. The perceiving function gathers what it believes to be relevant data, and the judging function sorts it out and makes a conclusion. Judging functions form judgments on their own (as Te/Fe doms do sometimes) but those judgments would probably be inaccurate because they have not gathered/considered enough data. INFJs who say “Don’t judge so quickly” are using their Ni more prominently, meaning they want more information before judging.

Si gathers data according to what it already knows, so when it meets something “new”, it will hesitate and check it out carefully. That’s where Fe/Te comes in to evaluate whether that “new” thing makes sense or not. If it makes sense, it can be integrated into memory. If it doesn’t make sense (based on past experience), then Si must investigate further and gather more information, and maybe create a new category for the experience. Aversion to change is not purposeful, it is just a side-effect of how Si works. But, in real life, it will appear as though the person does not like change, however, that is not the fundamental quality of Si. The fundamental quality of Si is to look for familiar things, which is why it will pause when it sees something unfamiliar. If Si has learned through past experience that “new” things might bring great instability or harm, it will gradually hesitate more and more when confronted with novelty or change.

Se and Ne are not impulsive on purpose; impulsiveness is a side-effect of being responsive to any external stimulus that seems new or interesting. They gather information about new things/possibilities but they do not form judgments until the aux function kicks in and confirms whether that new thing/possibility is worth paying attention to. If Ti/Fi says “nope, this stimulus is not as new/exciting as first thought,” then Se/Ne will move on. Without proper aux functioning, Se/Ne would just flit from stimulus to stimulus, never stopping long enough to really appreciate what they are looking at, and then, in real life, you will see this manifested in some Se/Ne doms who have very short attention spans. But they cannot be said to do this “on purpose”.

[istpandora-deactivated20180706]

I'm struggling to figure out whether I use Si or not, because Si is often described as comparing stuff to the past and using past knowledge to solve problems, but I'm pretty sure everyone does this too? For example when I come across a completely new problem, I'll try to figure out what is wrong and how to fix it, and if I have any previous knowlege about the subject, I'll utilise it. If I come across a problem that is very similar to one I have had in the past, I will probably solve it in a (1)

(2) similar way. Also, I recognise similarities between things, for example when one person will remind me of someone else, or if an object/place looks similar to one that I have seen before. Is this Si, or just memory in general? Because I don’t really relate much to Si (caring about the past, establishing routine, worrying about the future and being afraid of the unknown) other than the part I already explained. So how can I tell between Si comparing/contrasting and normal memory?

Oh god, I can’t even remember how many times I’ve seen people equate Si to memories. But wait! I actually can remember because non-Si-users do in fact have memories. Much shock :’)

What you described is definitely memory in general. Both Pi functions (Si/Ni) and their place in your function stack influence the way in which you remember things. You just gotta focus on the how. Due to the internally focused and sensory nature of Si, Si-users tend to fixate on specific sensory details when they remember something. The rest of their memory about the general situation may or may not be foggy, but the things that they do remember are highly specific. Now as for Ni-users… I don’t think they have a tendency to remember any more or less than Si-users. Rather, they just filter their perceptions in a different way. Ni is different from Si in that it isn’t focused on sensory impressions; it’s focused on abstract impressions instead. Ni filters reality into a single interpreted whole. So, an Ni-user typically remembers the general gist of what happened, but will have a hard time calling to mind specific details of what was going on around them in the sensory realm. Their recounting of events will probably sound very unattached, from a bird’s eye view, like they weren’t really a participant in the scenario. The Si-user’s recounting will sound more personal, experienced from a first-person perspective. They’ll remember the details that really affected them at the time, but they might lose sight of the full picture of the scenario.

In short, Ni is cohesive and generalized. Si is fractured and specific. If you need a visual: An Ni-user’s experience is like abstract impressionism, while an Si-user’s is like those photographs with a sharp foreground and unfocused background.

If it helps, try examining your perception when you see something that strikes you as familiar. Do you tend to draw similarities between intangible things (like noticing a familiar atmosphere or concept) or do you tend to draw similarities between sensory things (like latching on to a specific detail that reminds you of another detail)? Obviously you can do both, but you probably lean more one way or the other depending on whether you actively use Si or Ni.

You might be interested in reading these posts as well: [1] [2]

[lophiusdragon]

@ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is

for ur compilation of si vs ni posts

[ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is]

I try to avoid updating the FAQ post often because it breaks the link but I agree this is a good resource, and I’ll add it to the desktop FAQ page which isn’t a post.

[funkymbtifiction]

Enneagram: Frustration

Source: Here.

Enneagram Ones

Ones get easily frustrated when quality slips, people are not on time, standards are not being adhered to, mistakes are made, and more. All of this is understandable, yet does frustration really help the situation? Instead try this: Breathe deeply so you become calm; laugh at the situation so you become playful; and be thankful that these human frustrations are simply part of daily life and you are part of it.

Enneagram Twos

Twos get really frustrated when people get themselves in difficulty especially after the two has offered very wise and practical advice. Twos also get frustrated when other people “shoot themselves in the foot” – in other words, make decisions with obvious negative consequences and, thus, self-sabotage. And Twos get frustrated when they speak up, yet do not get taken seriously. Instead, try this: Let others make what you consider to be “stupid” mistakes and allow them to bear the consequences. In addition, when you want to be heard, find your personal power deep inside your gut as well as your heart and speak from there!

Enneagram Threes

Threes get especially frustrated when obstacles occur in their pathway; when others don’t do what they said they would do – this applies personally as well as professionally; and when they are trying to express what they feel and want, yet the words don’t come easily. Instead, try this: Get into your body through breathing, exercise or whatever works for you, and ask your heart and your gut what you feel and what you want. Then sit back and “go with the flow” rather than try to control or change the movement of things and events.

Enneagram Fours

Fours get frustrated over many things and then become frustrated over their frustration. This double frustration, of course, makes them more frustrated. Many things frustrate Fours: people not understanding, superficiality, not manifesting exactly as they want, and more. Instead, try this: Find your sense of balance in your body, through breathing, exercising, centering, meditation, or whatever works best for you. Suddenly, you’ll find a different relationship to your frustration.

Enneagram Fives

Although they may not show it, Fives get frustrated by other people, by work projects, and by their own behavior. There is so much that’s frustrating, and not feeling comfortable expressing it outwardly is also frustrating. Instead, try this: Create a mantra for yourself that feels and sounds good. For example, when you get frustrated, say this: The world, including me, is full of so much nonsense. Let me scream once, get it out, and be done with it! Or, you could try this: I am enough; there is enough; let me laugh!

Enneagram Sixes

Sixes live in a world of frustration. Overthinking everything, as they do so often, breeds mental frustration. When things go awry, frustration. And Sixes also get frustrated with themselves for over-ruminating, over-planning and over-worrying. Instead, try this: Take a walk, breathe, and really let the oxygen in without, of course, hyperventilating. This is a great way to simply stop or slow the mental machinations.

Enneagram Sevens

Sevens have low frustration tolerance, which is a problem because they get frustrated easily – for example, something or someone that takes too long, in their estimation. The word “no” also frustrates them. Sitting still frustrates them. Not getting what they want quickly also frustrates them. Instead, try this: Sit down, be still, and breathe. Practice this over and over many times a day. It’s not the same as taking 3 deep breathes so you don’t explode; it’s actually intended to help you get more centered and more receptive.

Enneagram Eights

Eights, of course, do get frustrated. For example, they get frustrated when people don’t do what they are supposed to or don’t take responsibility for their own behavior. But Eights tend to get angry more than frustrated, and when they get angry, Eights take action, usually big action. Frustration, a milder form of anger, typically occurs only when Eights try repeatedly to get the something to happen and it does not. Instead, try this: Say what you want directly and respectively, and problem solve the situation with the other person or persons. Think of this as enlisting capable others rather than commanding them.

Enneagram Nines

Nines get frustrated, yet it takes them a long time to even be aware of it. Given this lag time, the frustration actually builds inside until they either somatize it – that is, become physically ill in some way due to the stress of holding in their reactions – or they eventually explode outwardly. There are, however, are other options available. Instead, try this: When you don’t like something, you’ll feel it – even if it is slight – somewhere in your body. Notice this and ask yourself: What is this? Allow the answer to appear, then express it.

[estj-destroyer-of-misinformation]

you mentioned something of a "core lie" for ennea 7. could you elaborate on that for the other types as well?

Core lie for 1: Both myself and the world are objectively bad. I have to make myself and it better. 

Disintegration to 4: Everything is too much, the world is too bad, I’m too bad, I might as well give up.

Integration to 7: The world has a lot of good in it, and maybe I can be better and help people more if I let go of the compulsion to see what’s bad. 

Core lie for 2: I am unlovable unless I’m the most helpful and sweetest around. 

Disintegration to 8: I failed or everyone is unappreciative, why should I keep trying to be nice when I could say what I want instead? I don’t need love. 

Integration to 4: People who really love me love me for who I am. I can let go of the compulsion to help and just help out of genuine kindness. 

Core lie for 3: No one has inherent value. The only way I can become valuable is through what I do in the world. 

Disintegration to 9: I’m a failure who will never achieve value. Why should I put in work when I’m doomed to fail?

Integration to 6: I can see the value in my friends and family, and realize that that same value is in me. I can stop the rat race and be with people who love and value me. 

Core lie for 4: Those who are different from the shallow normal people are special and deserve more. I have to be different and unique or else there’s no point to me.

Disintegration to 2: No one is treating me different, I have to make it clear to them that they should be and stay at their heels. If I have to sacrifice a little of my identity, so be it. 

Integration to 1: Difference isn’t valuable. Moral character and kindness to others is valuable. I can be authentic to myself and uphold my beliefs while being good to others. 

Core lie for 5: I can’t handle the world as it is, but if figure out everything about it, I might be able to handle it better than others. 

Disintegration to 7: I’ll never be able to handle the world. I might as well drop my carefulness, do what’s fun, and let everything buffet me around as it pleases.

Integration to 8: With confidence, I can adapt to what the world throws at me. I am intelligent. I can handle it. 

Core lie for 6: Everything will go wrong if I don’t have failsafes and guidance behind each decision. 

Disintegration to 3:My failsafes and guidance have failed me. I may be pathetic, but I’ll go it on my own. No one else is better. 

Integration to 9: Most people turn out fine without the torture and anxiety I put myself through for each decision. I can let go, embrace my strengths , and become grounded with the world. 

Core lie for 7: The world wants to shackle me, and if I don’t keep moving, I will be trapped in a life of pain. 

Disintegration to 1: The world has succeeded and I am in pain. I must resign myself to this misery and become yet another cog in a soul crushing machine. 

Integration to 5: I understand that responsibilities don’t always lead to pain. They often lead to meaning, clarity, and depth. I can move forward not only with my adaptability and talents, but also with a sense of purpose. 

Core lie for 8: The world is hard and cruel. If I expose weakness or let another control me, the world will swoop down like vultures trying to peck at my carcass. 

Disintegration to 5: It’s over. I am weak. My only hope now is to stay alone and hide from any potential harm. 

Integration to 2: Weakness is human. Those who love me will help me through it. I can surrender myself to them without fear of attack. I can be safe and protected without being cruel and aggressive. I can be kind. 

Core lie for 9: If I allow conflict and anger to disrupt me and my life, everything I value will fall to pieces and I will lose what I love. 

Disintegration to 6: I can feel the conflict near. I need to hide, I need to run. I have to protect against any coming conflict by giving in to anything and everything. I can hold the stress within me. 

Integration to 3: I can be confidant, assertive, and hardworking without fear of the friction from that breaking me away from what I love. If I can’t have a voice in an environment if I want to stay there, it’s not worth remaining.

[mr-entj]

Extraverted Thinking (Te) vs Introverted Thinking (Ti)

Combined with the following asks:

Can you write about Te from an ENTJ’s perspective? I find most online descriptions of Te are poorly written by non Te users and insufficient/patronizing. I would love to hear the Te-dom point of view. Thank you, Mr. ENTJ

Can you compare Te and Ti? I looked but didn’t see anywhere on the blog yet. Thank yyou for your time :)

Difference between Te and Ti?

How is Te any different from Ti? As a Ti-user I feel that I use Te as well in the way use my logic to make decisions

Related answers:

ENTJ: Auxiliary Introverted Intuition (Ni)

It’s objective vs subjective logic. For comparison:

Te (ENTJ, ESTJ, INTJ, ISTJ) emphasizes truth. Truth is defined as that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.

Ti (INTP, ISTP, ENTP, ESTP) emphasizes logic. Logic is defined as reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.

The reason why we call Te objective and Ti subjective is because Te is untouched by the individual– we use information provided to us as-is via the real world in forms like: facts, data sets, observations, research studies, news, rankings, academic journals, polls, subject matter experts, etc. Te logic is drawn from external sources to understand (”organize”) the outside world. “Organized” doesn’t mean that Te users are neat and tidy people– it means our minds sort information by relevance and impact. We first make sense of what is (current state), and from there, use that information to transform the world into what it can be (future state).

Te vs Ti

The main reason why these two cognitive functions (and their associated MBTI types) always clash is pretty simple: what exists in the real world (Te) is not always logical (Ti) and what’s logical in pure reasoning (Ti) does not always work in the real world (Te).

Let’s say you were to ask this question: “How does one become a management consultant at the best consulting firm in the world, McKinsey and Co.?”

Ti method (logical but false): “To successfully be accepted into the best consulting firm in the world, McKinsey and Co., I should first and foremost major in a relevant subject like business or economics, have exceptional grades in my classes, and develop strong skills in public speaking, problem solving, presentation, and preparation because that’s what management consultants need to succeed. If I do well in those areas, I should be a competitive candidate.”

Te method (illogical but true): “To successfully be accepted into the best consulting firm in the world, McKinsey and Co., I should first and foremost research which target schools they recruit from. The major I select and classes that I take have less relevance than the university I attend because without being in the right place, McKinsey won’t even consider me as a candidate. Next, I should excel in academics and network with alums and McKinsey professionals. If I do well in those areas, I should be a competitive candidate.”

The Ti method states a logical but false statement. It’s logical because to be a good management consultant, you certainly need to have all those skills (problem solving, quantitative analysis, presentation skills, etc.). The reason why it’s false is because it omits empirical evidence. The most important determinant in getting into McKinsey is actually the business school you graduate from– McKinsey doesn’t recruit outside of the top 10-15 MBA programs in the country, it’s extremely rare for them to do so. The Ti user is more likely not to know this.

The Te method states an illogical but true statement. It’s illogical because the university you attend shouldn’t have an impact on your job prospects: there are dumb kids at elite colleges and smart kids at lower ranked colleges. Even so, this is still a true statement because, again, McKinsey doesn’t recruit from universities outside the Top 10-15 MBA programs. Data suggests that school rankings have an impact on getting into McKinsey and other elite consulting firms (data references: McKinsey’s career website, LinkedIn, networking events, Poets and Quants, etc.). The Te user is more likely to know this.

Related: Mr. ENTJ, do things like rankings, reputation, and prestige for which school you attend matter when it comes to your career?

How do you change a Te user’s mind?

If you want the Te user to change their opinion, you must provide empirical evidence that overturns their logic.

If you tell a Te user you’re applying to Stanford University with a 2.0 GPA (C- average, 65-70%) and a 1000 SAT score (35 percentile) but the facts state Stanford’s average admitted GPA is over 4.0 (A+ average, 100%) and average SAT score is 1460+ (96 percentile) (reference: Stanford Admission Data) then Te will say you’re not a competitive candidate. It doesn’t matter if you’re a great student who’s actually really smart “but I’m just lazy/ I don’t do well on tests/my grades are bad.” It doesn’t matter if Stanford is the perfect fit for you and your tech entrepreneurship goals. It doesn’t matter if you think grading scales and test scores are illogical, insufficient, and inaccurate measures of intelligence. You can debate until your face is red, stomp your feet, cry, kick, and scream, but from a data perspective provided by Stanford University itself– the facts strongly suggest you aren’t getting accepted.

That’s not Te being mean or inflexible– that’s simply the facts – and we can’t do anything about the facts because they are what they are. They are objective. What is flexible to the Te user is how to solve the problem. Nothing will change the fact that you’re a poor candidate for Stanford but if the goal is to get accepted, the Te solution is to raise your grades and test scores to match the benchmark set by Stanford’s admission data. The solution is not to debate endlessly the merits of grades and test scores or Stanford’s admission criteria. 

I’d love for you to get into the university of your dreams, Stanford is a phenomenal school, but if the data clashes violently with the decision then I can’t side with you. If the data doesn’t support the decision, the Te user won’t budge.

How can Te and Ti work better together?

Te gets frustrated with Ti’s focus on irrelevant details, inability to interpret generalizations, and frivolous nitpicking. Working with Ti can be irritating for a Te user because Ti can get “stuck” on something that doesn’t personally make sense to them, but that makes sense to everyone else, that works anyway, and that achieves the end result. Where the Te user wants to move on, the Ti user wants to stay and dig and dig and dig some more, and this can tie up valuable resources like time, energy, and money. 

Professionally, set conditions for success from a third party and work towards meeting them together. For example, if it’s a business environment then let the customer tell you what success is. If it’s an academic environment, let the professor define success. If it’s a hospital, let patient quality and value of care guide you. Treat these conditions for success as a “north star.” From there, Te and Ti can combine their strengths to create solutions that are both logically sound (Ti) and effective (Te) to achieve the best results guided by the third party. 

The Te Advantage

The main advantage of having Te is straightforward: Te users have an easier time navigating and succeeding in the real world simply because we listen to it and we make sense of what it’s telling us. We study the world, organize and analyze the information, and make data-driven decisions using our auxiliary function (Ni for ENTJs, Si for ESTJs) based on that analysis.

If you want to get accepted into Harvard University– you don’t tell Harvard what kind of student they want– you collect data on what statistics (GPA, major, test scores) they accept and adapt those traits to your application.

If you want to run a successful company, you don’t tell your customers what they should buy– you collect data on their preferences and create a product to meet their needs.

If you want the world to accept your logic, you don’t unilaterally rationalize it in your mind and then tell the world what they need– you ask them what they want and respond accordingly.

This is why ENTJs and ESTJs are often described as pragmatic and associated with high achievement, our traits are adapted for the environment we live in– reality.

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Te from an actual Te-dom’s perspective. How incredibly refreshing.

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How can the inferior function be identified when it's introverted? I'm sure it's easier in moments of stress. Thank you.

Nice timing on this question, in light of the previous submission I just posted (yours came in first ;).

The inferior function is your weakest point, that which you’re most insecure about, and what hurts the most when other people poke at it, regardless of it being introverted or extroverted. If you’re brutally honest with yourself, you KNOW that’s a weak area for you, that you can’t compete in that area with others who have a certain function higher in their stack.

Since you asked specifically about introverted inferior functions, I’ll address them – I’ve discussed all the functions in depth other places, but extroverted inferior functions can indeed be easier to spot, since it produces strangely extroverted behaviors in otherwise introverted people (hey, remember the time ___ got up on the table and started dancing in front of the crowd?).

(These are inferior functions at their worst; but even healthy types struggle.)

For a Ne-dom, inferior Si is their total inability to retain or focus on details, even forgetting the most essential information or being incapable of pulling up specific examples to support their Ne-dom hyperbole. This means their beliefs are wildly inconsistent and self-contradictory, framed in the ideas of the moment rather than on gathered experiences or knowledge. (This is why it HURTS when people point out that you’re being inconsistent in what you said before.)

For a Se-dom, inferior Ni is failing to perceive the larger picture, or in being prone to action without thought of the long-term effects, consequences, or results of your action in the present. This means they often are forced to deal with unforeseen problems built up from short-sighted behavior. They can either refuse to consider reading between the lines, or become fixated on an irrational singular dream for their future that isn’t possible. (This is why it HURTS when people point out, “You should have thought of that before you…”)

For a Te-dom, inferior Fi is a lack of emotional intelligence in yourself and for other people; not knowing what you want, how to care for your feelings, how to deal with your emotions, or being able to consider other people’s emotional needs in your decisions. You may dismiss feeling-based decisions entirely, or neglect emotional self-care, which tends to alienate you emotionally from family and friends and lead to conflict over your lack of “understanding.” (This is why it HURTS when people assume you don’t love them or care about them at all.)

For a Fe-dom, inferior Ti is a failure to have consistent logical beliefs and to analyze situations with detached efficiency; your tendency is to use emotional intelligence (Fe) to assess people and situations and assume this wisdom makes you more logical than you are; but your logical center can reveal flaws or crack under pressure, when a thinker type bears down hard on you. (This is why it HURTS when other people point out inconsistent ideas in your thinking or challenge you as being “irrational.”)

Introverts:

For a Ni-dom, inferior Se is the desire to act within the world but an inability to do so with any kind of consistency, often leading to a passive lifestyle of contemplation ahead of actually working for the things you want. It means you’re incapable of adaptation in the moment, which often means you miss opportunities and/or epic fail when you try. (This is why it HURTS when people call you lazy or unmotivated.)

For a Si-dom, inferior Ne wants to be multi-faceted and creative with bigger possibilities but struggles to grasp larger pictures, is not good at reading between the lines, and can often visualize “worst case scenario” thinking, in everyday affairs (we’re all doomed). (Since inferior Ne fears it isn’t unique, innovative, or creative enough, this is why it HURTS when people point out your creative faults or shoot down your ideas as irrational or unlikely.)

For a Ti-dom, inferior Fe wants to express itself in appropriate ways and connect emotionally to other people, but feels increasingly out of its depth when interacting with emotionally-charged people or situations. Its tendency to be erratic and explosive leads to feelings of shame or vulnerability after a public meltdown, because of an intrinsic awareness that they should have better emotional intelligence. (This is why it HURTS when people call you unfeeling, inconsiderate, or selfish.)

For a Fi-dom, inferior Te wants to be productive and take action in the outside world but struggles to know how to implement their plans or turn a profit, and can feel overwhelmed in situations requiring bottom lines, extensive logical frameworks, or “selling” oneself or one’s product to the masses. As a result, an inferior Te often winds up angry that the world isn’t helping them succeed, while failing to take affirmative action to attain success. (This is why it HURTS when others call you undisciplined, irrational, or unlikely to succeed.)

Hope that helps.

- ENFP Mod

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The 27 Tritype Discriptions

INTRODUCTION:

This took me FOREVER. Ever since I’ve learned about tritypes I have lamented at the lack of cohesive resources on the subject. All the information is scattered and disorganized across many platforms and its simply frustrating to find and research. I figured I would do my civic duty to this community and compile this information. This is the 27 Tritypes put together in a cohesive and simplified manner.  

I would like to say that I only wrote about 20% of this. All I did was put the information togeather, make it fit, and add in info when it was lacking. Please let me know if you have anymore questions!

Sources: 

The 27 Tritypes is a theory by Katherine Chernick Fauvre, her website is http://www.katherinefauvre.com/tritype/ 

Most of the information came from >>THIS THREAD 

For a quick guide on enneagram i did, including tritypes, click >>HERE Please read this before asking further questions, Thank you!

The Mentor: 125, 251, 512

Gut: 1 Heart: 2  Head: 5

Mentors want to help others with the information they have acquired. They love being the stoic guidance counselor. Caring, practical, knowledgeable. They can be very controlling, and sometimes try to force advice on others, but it is often very helpful. They have high expectations for others and push them to be their best. They should try to be less judgmental of others and not over-give. Your life mission is to use your wisdom to provide the information needed to manifest ideals that help those in need. A true mentor, you are happiest when you can help others improve themselves. They could make great teachers – they are precise, ethical, thorough, intellectual, disciplined, but also altruistic and willing to help other people. They are usually moral and righteous individuals, who have high ideals and are willing to stand by a cause they believe in. Their interest in people and commitment to knowledge and improvement can turn them into crusaders for theories and systems that can make the world a better place.

The Supporter: 126, 261, 612

Gut: 1 Heart: 2 Head: 6 As a Supporter, you are discerning, caring and inquisitive. You want to be ethical, helpful and cooperative. Highly responsible, you are most comfortable when you do things by the book and know what to expect. Focused on the needs and concerns of others, you seek ways to be of service. Your life mission is to find structured ways to give, and be of assistance to others. A true helper, you are happiest when you are in a position to support others achieve their goals. You can be overly fixed in your opinion of what is right and be rigid in your expectations of yourself and others and thus come across as disapproving or militant. This type ignores their own desires. They are very loyal and act as they feel they should and often for others. They want to serve and they tend to expect others to as well. Fear of desperateness, humiliation and doubt. Tendency to seek things they will accept, approval and assurance. This is absolutely the “caring friend” archetype.

The Teacher: 127, 271, 712

Gut: 1 Heart: 2 Head: 7  

As a Teacher, you are a person needing to find structured ways to play and be of service. They like to teach and to support others. It’s the classic elementary school teacher archetype that wants to find innovative but structured ways to make learning or improving enjoyable to people. The blindspot is they can become so attached to their way of doing “fun” and innovation that they can gloss over negative feelings that need to be addressed or become too rigid in their expectations thus making things not fun. You love discovering new things and sharing what you learn with others. Your mission is to help those in need of guidance, hope, and inspiration. You can also be hyper-focused on keeping things overly positive and upbeat. Your growing edge is to be willing to experience emotional pain. You can be overly identified with positive emotions and appropriate behavior. Negative emotions teach us what we are feeling and are an important aspect of any decision making process. A true teacher, you are happiest when you can use your teaching skills to make learning a creative and enjoyable experience

The Technical Expert: 135, 351, 513

Gut: 1 Heart: 3 Head: 5

The Technical expert is driven, self disciplined, success and image oriented (but the image is not one of flash. It’s ALWAYS perfect and appropriate.)…discerning, self demanding and judgmental with a focus on control. Extremely productive and hardworking, she barely gives herself a break, but when she does it’s like a huge release. It’s always planned though…Highly intelligent and focused, but can be narrow-minded at times, even though she’s capable of seeing other perspectives if she’s convinced of the “rightness” of hers she will be harsh, critical and obstinate. You are diligent, focused and knowledgeable. You want to be ethical, efficient and wise. Highly rational, you seek systems and procedures. Detail oriented, you like mathematical concepts and finding ways to breakdown and understand complex material. You are very precise and good with your hands. Your life mission is to be focused and to use your powers of observation to achieve goals. A true technical expert, you feel happiest when you use your knowledge and precision skills to create, achieve and teach.

The Taskmaster: 136, 361, 613

Gut: 1 Heart: 3 Head: 6

As a technical expert you are incredibly discerning, focused and responsible type. She said they will be the most inclined to want to live up to a successful image by societal standards and to focus on duty in order to feel valuable. She called it the “true taskmaster” that is inclined to create structure and rules that others in society can follow and to implement them. She said the blindspot is that one can be so overly focused on the rules that they can lose touch with their own values and feelings in deference to what is acceptable or societally defined. you are diligent, focused and knowledgeable. Elegant, stoic and resolute with a loyal professional veneer. Very self critical. Strong ideas about how they should act and have man guidelines that they must follow and cannot deter from. They can feel like a break from work is a sin, and sometimes only feel okay working. This is one of the hardest workers, if not the hardest worker of the 27 archetypes.

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Some things about ESXPs

SUBMITTED by galaxykat92

This isn’t exactly a post, just some things about being an Se dom that might help others with typing, since I’ve noticed there isn’t a lot of info on being an Se dom from an actual Se dom. 

I have to try something before I can make a judgement on whether I like it or not. This may be specific to ESFP since it is a clear Se/Fi interaction, but I would guess the ESTP’s Se/Ti works the same. 

When it comes to dancing, I am truly awful at choreographed dance, but I am a brilliant follow in partner dance. In the heat of the moment I cannot for the life of me remember choreography, I have learned to combat it by repetition, getting it into my body so I can feel it, and reproduce the feeling. When it comes to partner dances like ballroom or folk dancing, I can dance a dance I have never even seen before if I have a good lead. Instinctually I can tell what their body language is asking of me, and I can respond to it immediately. My guess is Si would be the opposite.

Not everyone is a physical active person, I didn’t realize that when I was typing, which caused me to ignore Se as a possibility. I assumed that everyone did sports, and dance as a kid. Potential ESXPs don’t ignore this, it’s not as common as we think.

You don’t have to be hyper aware of your environment at all times to be an ESXP. I choose to ignore things all the time, usually because noticing the dust on the shelves, or the books that need to be put away, or the dishes that need to be washed means I will feel an obligation to fix those things because I know the other people I live with would be happier if they were done (which is an enneagram guilt trip rather then an MBTI function). You might be missing things in your environment for a reason, it doesn’t mean you’re not an Se dom.

I have always known what my body can and cannot do. Se isn’t about being a daredevil risk taker, it’s about knowing your limits which allows you to do things that seem risky to others, but you know you can do because you trust your body to do its job. I once fell of of a trapeze in the middle of a new trick, and would have broken my neck if my feet had not reacted automatically by catching myself by my toes. I don’t have a problem trying things like that because I trust my body will react with out me having to think of a way to save myself.

Se is about reaction in the moment, with out planning. I can spend hours, days, or years planning something, but when it comes down to it I’m going to throw the plan out the window and react to the moment. This has been a pattern throughout my life, and while it can be extremely annoying when I’m surrounded by high Te and Si’s, I always get better result then them, and I’m usually more content in my life because I am perfectly comfortable winging it. 

I hope some of this is helpful for struggling ESXPs, we’re a hard nut to crack due to misunderstandings which lead to ridiculous stereotypes. Maybe an ESTP can weigh in on how the Se/Ti works.

[itsme-isfp]

The Types and Plotting Revenge

ENTJ

Makes a big show out of threatening to destroy everything you love. 80% of the revenge plot is tied up in proving that they have the power to do this.  Doesn’t actually intend to put effort into destroying things, just wants to make you cry. And prove they’re superior.

INTJ

Revenge plot in progress.  No one else knows it’s happening.  INTJ is watching the ensuing chaos with glee that their enemies will never know who or what caused this disaster.  (Also gloating to themselves about how successful it was. Will probably gloat online later.)

ESFJ

Obsesses over their enemy and their offense. How dare they do that to me??? Furiously gossips or simmers over how terrible their offender is. Will act like an angel to their enemy’s face while trying to ruin their lives behind the scenes.

ISFJ

Someone finally pushed them too far.  However, they couldn’t come up with a revenge idea that was good enough, so they nurse the grudge and wait for an opportunity to get even to present itself.  You’ll never see it coming until…it does.

ENTP

It’s on their list of things to do….right now a sassy comeback is more than satisfactory. If they are royally pissed off they might try to ruin their enemy’s social standing but only stick with it for like… 4 days.

INTP

Hypothetically plotting revenge because they can, but has no enemies and no motivation to actually do it.

ESTJ

Doesn’t wait to plot revenge, who has time for that? Pounds their enemies at the time of the offense instead.  Does, however, know precisely who their enemies are.

ISTJ

Someone was rude to them, but they’re too good to take revenge themselves.  So they ponder and make lists of reasons that person will self-destruct, then sit back and watch and wait for it to happen.  Yes, it’s been years. They’re still convinced it’ll happen eventually.

ENFP

Has decided that revenge is petty and therefore beneath them…until someone really pisses them off.  Gets a high off of finding and planning a punishment that this person deserves – usually public humiliation where people find out how nasty their enemy is inside. 50/50 chance of them actually executing the plan in its full form, but manages to badmouth the offender to at least a few people before they cool down.

INFP

Oh yes indeed, they have plotted and executed revenge, and it was oh so sweet at the time. They felt totally vindicated.  However, now they have to live with overwhelming guilt at the thought that this person could have been redeemed….(in reality all they did was throw their hated coworkers sandwich in the trash).

ESTP

YES! REVENGE! That sounds awesome! Now everyone do as I say! Wait, where are you going? Probably just ends up punching the enemy in the face.

ISTP

Has a sneaky (and practical) murder plan in their head, and enjoys joking about the concept.  In reality just avoids everyone they don’t like, so they don’t have enemies.

ENFJ

Is very angry and wants to see this person suffer. Gathers friends or minions to support their plan, acts too quickly, their plan backfires, and they retreat with their tail between their legs.  Blames themselves later.

INFJ

Perfectly content to imagine their enemy burning in hell, in glorious detail.  Cools down a week later and suddenly feels guilty about enjoying their revenge daydream so much. No one knows.

ESFP

Makes an admirable effort, but they try to pull off too much by themselves.  Everything falls apart and they end up losing their cool and maniacally screaming and sobbing in their enemy’s face.  

ISFP

Doesn’t need to plot anything; they believe in karma, bitch.

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wow i feel exposed

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How do you spot someones inferior, auxiliary and tertiary functions in real life?

They’re rigid the further down the stack you find them.

A healthy higher function is flexible.

When dealing with kids, you’re dealing with immature dominant functions that are going to fit the stereotypes much more than dealing with an adult; the more they mature, the more mature their dominant functions become… but it takes a long time for the bottom two functions to reach that state of optimal health.

For the most part, it plays out like this:

Mature high Si knows the value of seeking additional perspectives and the careful accumulation of data and information before reaching a judgment. This is the flexible SJ open to new experiences and traditions, vs the NP who flat out refuses to allow anyone to change their sacred tradition, because it will ‘ruin’ the holiday, because THIS IS ALWAYS HOW WE DO IT. Or who refuses to open themselves up to a new idea because THAT’S NOT HOW I WAS TAUGHT.

High Si: reasonable.

Low Si: immature, fussy, and unreasonable.

Carry it over to the rest of the functions.

It’s the difference between a Ni-dom/aux fairly certain of their futuristic prediction but also open to changing it with additional information and/or leaving a margin of error and low Ni, which becomes rigid, dogmatic, stubborn and persistent in insisting that THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND IT HAS TO PLAY OUT EXACTLY LIKE I WANT IT TO, PERIOD.

It’s the difference between a high Se who navigates opportunities and is easily able to choose the right ones to make a dramatic difference in the environment or cause a positive chain reaction of events, vs the low Se that just flings itself on opportunities without the ability to sense what will work and what won’t, so they are only self-sabotaging in their flailing about.

It’s the difference between a high Ne who instinctively reads patterns and often correctly interprets what’s actually going on / the motives behind something, or knows which ideas are rubbish or have no lasting value, and the low Ne that becomes frantic at the thought of “narrowing down their options,” or clings to an interpretation of something that is clearly far-fetched and unrealistic (because they feel they know the truth).

It’s the difference between a high Ti who effortlessly makes their logic consistent and discards and adapts new logic and changes their thinking when proven wrong, and a low Ti that becomes defensive, insistent only their way makes sense, angry that you can’t understand what they mean, and places a ton of emphasis on ‘being rational’ (while… never being rational themselves).

It’s the difference between a high Te who can simplify an existing system so that anyone can do their job and hands off responsibilities to other people, and who changes their mind when presented with the facts, and a low Te who doesn’t know how to organize their time or what to do first, so they dictate and order people around and become defensive if their plan doesn’t work, and stubbornly cling to ‘the facts’ whether or not they are actual facts.

It’s the difference between a high Fe who knows how to calm people down and motivate them to work together easily, who thinks about including everyone in the group and making sure they feel they are vital to the movement, and a low Fe who continually alienates people when they try to be inclusive, who fails to truly care about those involved (thus giving a sense of ‘fake’ ness), and who becomes stubborn under pressure about other people not going along with things because THEY SHOULD.

It’s the difference between a high Fi who values their own autonomy so much that they extend the same belief in the freedom for self expression to everyone else regardless of whether they agree or disagree with their opinion (the mantra of “nobody should have control over anybody else”), and the low Fi who develops this same belief and tramples other people’s rights attempting to make it happen.

So, in a nutshell – look at what’s effortless for them and energizes them, look at what’s harder for them and wears them out, and frankly, look at what they suck at, because chances are that’s their lowest function.

My Si is terrible. I suck at details. My mom called me from the store the other day to ask, “What kind of laundry detergent did you want?” And I had no idea, because I just dump that stuff in the washer. I never read the front. I never noticed the brand. Clueless, I said, “Uh… it has blue on it. I think. I dunno, just buy me whatever you use.”

I have never known an N not to berate someone else for neglecting details, so also pay attention to that. People tend to assume other people have their same blind spots and difficulties and come down hard on them for it, when it’s really just about them. My ENFJ at work is always yelling at me when I forget a client’s name. But he never remembers either. :P

- ENFP Mod