"You don't smell good" Thanks our programming that causes severe depression and rapid splitting/switching got triggered and we can hardly do anything but I'm glad you noticed how we smell ! (asshole) -Husker
Why Project Monarch & Alter Programming Aren't Real: The Masterpost
With current events the way they are, it's more crucial than ever that everyone understands where the conspiracy narratives about cults practicing secret mind control techniques and conducting all of these ritual murders and tortures comes from, and how we know that all of this stuff is straight-up not real.
(To be clear, I am not saying that people's trauma symptoms aren't real, or that they weren't severely abused in some way. I am saying that alter programming is not actually required to explain anyone's trauma symptoms. People's symptoms are real, but special mind control practices are not the cause.)
The Basics
How we know false memories exist (and no, it's not because the FMSF says so!)
How Project Monarch fails the "Six Ways To Debunk Any Conspiracy Theory" sniff test
How the discovery of real cases of religious abuse, csa, government conspiracies, etc. actually weaken claims of Monarch-type programming
Recovered memory therapy from the perspective of former patients
The History
The Shared Origins of Reptilian & Ritual Abuse Conspiracy Theories
What the Project Monarch alter programming conspiracy theory is (and what it's not)
How the Project Monarch alter programming conspiracy theory developed
The Proponents
Cathy O'Brien - One of the first Project Monarch "Survivors"
Cathy O'Brien claims transgender is a mind control agenda
Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler: Two Of The Most Dangerous Conspiracy Theorists Most People Have Never Heard Of
Svali, a "survivor" cited by people like Alison Miller and Ellen Lacter, is a conspiracy theorist
Svali: An Underacknowledged Influence on Alter Programming Conspiracy Theories
Origins of the Five Steps of Discipline - it was made up by Svali!
Yes, Dr. Alison Miller is a conspiracy theorist
Yes, Dr. Colin Ross is a conspiracy theorist
Unwelcome Ozian copied Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler - see for yourself!
I just read Unwelcome Ozian's "Rules of Programming," and Oh Boy.
Other
Why the survey cited by Ellen Lacter is worthless and meaningless
How singlets can be misled into believing they have DID
Let's talk about The Symptoms(TM), and how they're a red flag for bullshit
Don't let people guilt trip you into accepting substandard evidence
How to explain to others that Project Monarch isn't real
Check your conspiracy theory. Does it sound anything like this?
Check your conspiracy theory part two: double, double, boil and trouble
Check Your Conspiracy Theory Part Three: Babylonian Mysteries?? In My Religion???
“ The problem with bothsidesing syscourse is that one side fundamentally believes that headmates like me shouldn't exist and advocates for hosts of created systems to kill their headmates. ” said by SIW
And then for her to follow up with the joke about "unwilling headmates out of existence" as the context to her post..
I saw a post that disgruntled me enough to want to talk about this, so here we are. There seems to be a heavy amount of misinformation on what "counts" as OEA, often excluding adult victims and non-programmed victims. So, within this post, we'll go over what the terms "OA, MC, and RA" mean, as well as commonly construed myths.
Organized Abuse
all-encompassing.
Organized abuse is a wide term that includes experiences of ritual abuse and mind control but is in no way exclusive to them. Often, only organized child sexual abuse is mentioned, which leaves out a lot of experiences it includes.
The most simple definition of organized abuse is "Abuse that involves a number of people doing something together in a pre-planned and/or structured way, rather than acting alone." In short terms, abuse done by multiple people in a planned way. [1]
All groups under the RAMCOA/OEA label will fall under this category. This includes, but is not limited to, Cults, Trafficking Rings, Labor Camps, "Troubled Teen" Camps, Intra-Familial Organized Abuse, and other experiences that fall under this definition. This includes victims indoctrinated into cults, trafficked, or otherwise abused as adults, as well as children born or brought into it. Location of the abuse (at home, in a church, at school, at a daycare, etc) doesn't matter, and someone does not have to go through ritual abuse or mind control to have experienced organized abuse.
Ritual Abuse
not inherently satanic.
Ritual abuse is a term often confused with SRA, or "Satanic Ritual Abuse," an outdated and often harmful label for forms of organized extreme abuse. Not all forms of organized abuse are ritual abuse.
Ritual abuse can be defined as "Abuse that occurs in a context where symbols or activities have superstitious, supernatural, or religious connotations. It is organised, often involving multiple perpetrators, and the abuse often happens as part of a rite or ceremony." Alternatively, the word 'ritual' refers to "a rite, ceremony or pseudo- religious service which involves a series of actions performed in a fixed order and/or at certain times; something that is done in the same way whenever a particular situation occurs." [1] [2]
Because of this, ritual abuse can be defined while including spiritual themes and non spiritual themes. So, many definitions include other forms of abuse that is ritualized/specifically repeated in nature, such as on a specific day or time or in a specific order.
This type of abuse is most dominated in literature by satanic overtones, once again from the term SRA. However, this is not exclusive to satanic cults. Any group based on a belief system or using other reoccurring themes/abuse can perpetrate ritual abuse. Though ritual abuse is also more commonly linked with mind control and child abuse, programming and age have no impact on if an experience is ritual abuse or not.
Survivors of ritual abuse include things like ritualistic ceremonies, games, symbols, set-ups, abuse on specific days/holidays, abuse in a specific order, etc as common experiences.
Mind Control
programming and beyond
Mind control tends to be the term that receives the most problems, as many people tend to only think of programming when hearing it. However, MC is not exclusive to programming survivors, and many types of MC have been recognized.
A good definition of MC is "Methods of thought reform to force submission or information from enemies and victims, or to indoctrinate and increase cooperation in members and captors," and is a synonym to coersive persuasion, defined as "attempts to force people to change beliefs, ideas, attitudes or behaviors using psychological pressure, undue influence, threats, anxiety, and/or intimidation." [3] [4]
Programming is an example of the far end of mind control, a severe form of conditioning. However, things such as cult and religious indoctrination, psychic driving, terrified submission, etc, are all also forms of MC that can occur within organized abuse. MC is not exclusive to child victims, as most forms of MC can be performed at any age.
Thank you for reading. If you have any questions or additions, feel free to send an ask or reply to this post. A reminder that I am not a professional, I am flawed, and I am just doing my best.
Infohazard alter: An alter that due to programming is considered an informational hazard and poses a potential threat to the system or others because of this information. This could be due to being an internal cuer, hold memories or information that is considered hazardous, are alters that are programmed to flood the system with memories, cues, or any other way they relate to this.
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╰┈➤ ⌞ HIGHLY COMPLEX DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER ⌝
ⓘ HC-DID is a 'subtype' of DID where a system is formed due to programming, which is to say forcibly made by an external party due to methods such as torture, hypnosis, and the like. The requirement of having HC-DID only consists of having programmed alters made by a handler, and common characteristics of HC-DID is that it has a low splitting threshold, a complicated inner world (or even none at all), a strict and complex system hierarchy, extreme high levels of dissociation and amnesia, and programming that extends beyond basic requirement for existence.
ⓘ Self indulgent flag redesign.
✉︎ Tagging @radiomogai , @goatgai , @ramcoa-mogai-archive
"RAMCOA systems and programmed alters exist, so that means willos can too!!"
Genuinely stop using RAMCOA systems to try to justify your nontraumagenic "systems" all the time.
Programmed alters do not willingly split. They split due to a VERY specific type of abuse. You know, abuse? The thing that traumatizes you? Trauma?
You insist that you can have alters without having any form of trauma, just your own willpower, but your "example" is created through abuse and trauma.
