#tw programming

[collective-chaos101]

"You don't smell good" Thanks our programming that causes severe depression and rapid splitting/switching got triggered and we can hardly do anything but I'm glad you noticed how we smell ! (asshole) -Husker

[anti-willo-miku]

Trigger Warning!

—— Psychiatric Abuse, Medical Malpractice, Therapeutic Misconduct, Overmedication, Psychological Manipulation, Gaslighting, Suicidality, Psychological Destabilization, Delusions/Altered Beliefs of Reality, Ritual Abuse, Cult Abuse Allegations, Programming Mentions, Forced Impregnation Mentions, Child Custody Loss, CPS/Child Welfare Mentions, Emotional Abuse, Exploitation, Medical Pseudoscience, Institutional Neglect Mentions, and Family Loss/Separation.

If anyone is interested, these are the allegations against Laser-Eyes Ross:

— ; Overmedicated a patient to the point of a prolonged state of deranged confusion. (As someone whose psychiatrist overmedicated them to the point of causing involuntary hospitalization, this pissed me off.) — ; Using this state, manipulated the patient into believing that her family was involved in an occult crime ring dedicated to a supernatural evil. (That sounds like how bigoted Christians tend to describe other religions ngl...) — ; Also manipulated the patient into believing that she was forcibly impregnated by aliens and had birthed a hybrid during the course of the abduction. — ; Had mistreated the patient so often that she had almost ended up on the precipice of death multiple times. — ; Her mistreatment led to her even giving up her 10-year-old daughter to Child & Family services out of fear of the "satanic cult family", which led to her losing her entire family. — ; Reinforced beliefs in satanic ritual abuse, cult abuse, and programming WITHOUT sufficient evidence. — ; Contributed to worsening dissociation, suicidality, dependency, and psychological destabilization in some patients. — ; Failed to properly warn patients that recovered-memory methods and diagnoses were scientifically controversial. — ; Treated fantasy material, or symbolic material, as factual, autobiographical memory. — ; Encouraged patients to sever ties with family members accused through recovered memories, which were mere assumptions and baseless claims. — ; Claimed that human eyes emit measurable energy beams capable of affecting electronic devices. (Buddy forgot he was supposed to be a psychiatrist lol.) — ; Various allegations of HIPAA/privacy violations and neglect at multiple of his "institutes."

Also, Pro/neu endos seem to love to bring up the False Memory Syndrome Foundation or Grey Faction whenever someone brings up how deplorable Ross is as a person, because they'd love to only focus on the people taking advantage of the situation, but they never bring up the actual points:

— ; "Did Colin Ross use suggestive therapeutic techniques that unintentionally shaped or implanted false beliefs in vulnerable patients?" — ; "Were his patients encouraged to interpret intrusive thoughts, dreams, symbolic imagery, or emotional distress as genuine memories of satanic, ritual abuse or "programming'"'?" — ; "Did Ross potentially overdiagnose MPD/DID in patients who may have had other psychiatric conditions or responses to trauma?" — ; "Were recovered-memory practices used in ways that ended in contributing to confusion, altered states, or a disconnection from reality in certain patients?" — ; "Did Ross reinforce extraordinary claims and beliefs, such as alien abduction, without sufficient evidence?" — ; "Were some former patients genuinely traumatized individuals whose existing history became mixed together with therapy-induced narratives, or completely embellished?" — ; "To what extent can trauma memories recovered during highly suggestive therapeutic sessions be considered reliable without external evidence?" — ; "Did institutional enthusiasm regarding DID and recovered-memory models during the 1980s-1990s reduce clinicians' skepticism toward implausible claims?" — ; "Were some of the medical malpractice allegations against Ross substantiated by individual medical professionals, or were they primarily disagreements over controversial theories?" — ; "Did some patients lose family relationships, custody, employment, or stability after they came to believe narratives during treatment?" — ; "Could some former patients simultaneously have had real trauma histories, and later adopted inaccurate explanatory frameworks in therapy sessions?" — ; "Were critics of Ross dismissing all survivor accounts, or were they specifically challenging the more extreme and unproven elements?"

The "medical malpractice" is how he went about his treatments and how he lacked in informing his patients thoroughly and getting their consent AFTER they're thoroughly informed, not about his theories or whatever bullshit the FMSF spews.

But like, yeah, no one is saying that Colin Ross wasn't a staple in the research surrounding CDDs and Traumas. He's a horrible person, not a horrible researcher, but we also need to realize he's also discredited.

And since they don't seem to realize this, but being discredited doesn't mean he can never be cited ever again in other works. It's how psychology has progressed today. Do you think we're just supposed to start off from scratch?

We all hate Sigmund Freud, but he's still a staple in today's psychology! Doesn't negate the fact that he's a fucking weirdo and also believed in pseudoscience...

And, yes, the False Memory Syndrome Foundation is a bunch of hippy-dippy baloney, and I condemn them for their bullshit, especially taking advantage of the whole situation for their own benefit, but that still doesn't negate the fact that a medical professional can manipulate their patient into believing they have something or experienced something.

They forget mental health professionals are paid because you're "ill"! It's not unheard of for some doctors from various medical fields to have deliberately diagnosed their patients with something so they could profit from it. I'm a victim of that!

And they don't even realize how easy it is for therapists and whatnot to literally abuse their patients and get away with it, compared to how hard it is for a patient to prove their abuse that occurred in an isolated, confined environment. For a bunch of people who claim to be "Anti-Psych," there's not a lot of real and genuine criticism coming from them...

+ And no matter how many Pro/neu endos have tried to say it, none of the allegations were either proven or debunked. Yet, I will always stand by a potential victim before standing by a potential abuser. Especially when, more often than not, victims don't always come out or take things to court.

I see a lot of similarities between the Pro/neu endos and Laser-Eyes Ross allegations, and honestly, I'm sure others will too.

— ; 🐷👑 & 🗡️🏟️ . . .

Oh my god thank you. I really think that pro-endos stand for absolutely nothing because all of their beliefs change whenever it’s convenient. They accuse anti endos of “dickriding psychiatry” (or something) but when they have a single email from a man who agrees with them all of their beliefs fly out the window.

[mylittleplural]

reminder, for all who need it- you are not your programs. you are more than the sum of someone else’s actions towards you. you aren’t a burden towards your system, and you aren’t doomed to be bound to your programs. even if you’re still struggling with active programs, you are still an amazing person, and you are worth the world and everything in it. life is brighter with you in it, and your programs don’t define you!

and on a similar note, you aren’t a bad person for struggling with your programs. none of this stops applying to you if you are still actively being programmed, either.

[radical-sainthood]

This is a part 2 of an ask I answered earlier! Linked here, the second question answered below the cut. It's not exactly a guide or a how-to but more a better in depth look at what you're attempting to achieve.

Self-programming for beginners:

Firstly, and this is the annoying step, I recommend research. There are SO MANY forms of programming, simple & complex, built off of each other, reliant on certain circumstances, etc. you should be doing proper research over what you want to know and what you want to accomplish. I also recommend looking more into Pavlov and behavioral scientists, they can teach you about reward and punishment responses and better ways to train the brain.

Additionally, I recommend looking into scripts and triggers. Programming scripts are incredibly common, they give a baseline of information, the alters you want to form, their purpose, their triggers, what tells them what to do and how to behave (side bar: if anyone wants me to write some scripts I would 100% be down, I find them incredibly interesting.)

Programming yourself without an outside handler takes dedication and practice. Firstly I would recommend setting goals, associations, punishments and rewards. You should be able to break your behaviors down into base actions based off of what you want and are trying to achieve.

I also recommend splitting internal handlers. Alters who's jobs involve holding yourself accountable. They will punish alters who misbehave, keep track of the expectations of the body and force everyone to do as their told. It's harder to hold yourself accountable and force your system to do what you want without these types of internal handlers.

Try to keep constant track of everything you do and where it fits into your programming. A document or a journal will work best. This will allow you to control informant alters (so that they can better tell your handlers and punishers if someone did something wrong).

I personally recommend doing this when you're experiencing high stress, the structure during stress will make your brain more attached to the programming. Some people are not as stress and trauma oriented so you don't have to, but it's a really good way to make sure your brain will do what you want.

Remember that programming is a violent/traumatic thing, you cannot become programmed without the stress of it, it will never be peaceful and easy but if it's your desired outcome you must be prepared.

[2thecosmos]

TW for programming + programmed systems, as well as the incompetency of "willogenic"/non traumagenic systems.

I saw this post earlier today about how programmed/"conditioned" systems are proof of "willogenic systems" being possible. How incompetent can a person get??? Programming is a type of trauma. When a child is programmed, typically, alters are "created". But it's not just trauma + will = alter. Because the goal of programming isn't to create a system. The goal of programming is to create a person who is entirely loyal and will do any task they are given. And to get that, you have to traumatize said person over and over with some of the most vile methods on this Earth. "Willogenic systems" are not at all comparable to programmed systems. Because programmed systems didnt just stare at a character until they split an alter based off of it. And "willogenic systems" didn't go through torturous events for years on end.

The audacity of these LARPers sometimes makes me want to do heinous crimes.

[masquerade-flags]

Innate Role modifier

A role modifier in reference to how an alter acquired their role. This one is for alters either formed with (at least one of) their roles or spontaneously acquire a role with the direct input of anyone specific.

Chosen Role modifier

A role modifier in reference to how an alter acquired their role. This one is for alters that chose (at least one of) their own role.

Elected Role modifier

A role modifier in reference to how an alter acquired their role. This one is for alters that (at least one of) their role was agreed upon by multiple alters. The alter themself may or may not have been part of the decision on their role.

Assigned Role modifier

A role modifier in reference to how an alter acquired their role. This one is for alters that (at least one of) was assigned to them by someone else. In the case of in system assessment, this is usually done by a high ranking or leader alter, though it doesn't have to be. In out of system assessment of roles, this may be done in a way that is harmful to the system, this would include programming. However can also refer to non-harmful assessment, such a therapist telling or suggesting a specific alter to try fulling a new role in the system.

Unknown Acquisition Role modifier

A role modifier for alter that don't how they got their role, and/or the whole system doesn't know how the alter got their role.

Multiple of these can be applied to one alter. For example one alter might be an innate-persecutor, elected-protector, and a chosen-caretaker.

[malplural]

Hi, I’m autistic and can be considered as a “traumagenic” I believe? I do not currently have any other diagnoses since I’m very shy about talking to psychologists about anything other than “ohh I’m a bit awkward.” Now, it’s not your job to be my psychologist, but I do express some symptoms of having a very weak inner identity. (I often don’t remember things that I apparently done, and people describe me as either very rude or very sweet, there’s a lot more going on but I wouldn’t want to talk about it for longer.)

Anyways, my question.. Why are endos inherently bad? I believe I’ve been too harsh on anti-endos and I just want to understand them instead of saying “fuck off” like other people have been doing.

I do not want to seem like a threat, I just don’t understand why people still fight over this.

I do get hating some sides of the endo community, though. (The odd labelling for people who “choose” to be systems is an example of what I mean.)

1– hate group origins

2– overall bad community behavior. on a main blog, one of my stars got misgendered by endos because he was anti endo. we also get harassed by endos daily so.

3– ableism. they're taking the "fun" parts of a disorder and mimicking it. considering endogenic used to mean endogenic DID. willos openly mock RAMCOA/OEA/programming victims, calling them hypocritical for being anti-willo because "willos and programming is basically the same!" (it's absolutely not and a vile thing to say)

4– harassment. this falls under the 2nd one but needs to be mentioned because endos looooove harassing anti endos instead of blocking.

5– transphobia (and ableism again). endos use "traumoid" "traumascum" "sysmed" "sys****" (r-slur) against anti endos, simply because they are anti endo. they also compare being anti-endo/endo to being trans???

6–endos also invade spaces for anti-endos. a lot. tags as well.

7– they compare themselves to an oppressed minority which. they aren't.

that's all i can remember ok bye

[ghost-jester-sys]

shout out to programmed / ramcoa systems who...

- can never fully mentally mature

- were made to mature too young

- know and remember nothing or just snippets

- know and remember everything or most things

- can't currently access therapy for safety or personal reasons

- are currently in therapy