It's the arguments that you make that make me dislike proshippers more and more. I do agree that you shouldn't harass, send death threats to, or even dox people for anything. Because that's literally common decency, and, you know...morally wrong and against the law. But that's not what I'm here to talk about.
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a proshipper is. Not going out of your way to harass people for what they do, that's not proshipping—that's anti-harassment. I'm also anti harassment, and I'm also anti-proship. These words do not mean the same thing.
A proshipper is someone who supports, engages, or partakes in fictional shipping involving incest, pedophilia, or ones that are abusive in nature. Making these types of pairings in fiction isn't always an issue, like in a story, so long as you're actually portraying them as what they are: traumatic, disgusting, and, you know... morally wrong and illegal. But that's not what proshippers do. They actively normalize, romanticize, and glorify these types of relationships as if they were a good thing. All under the thinly veiled guise of "Oh, it's fiction! It doesn't affect reality! Just because I'm supporting incest, pedophila and abuse with fictional characters, doesn't mean I condone it in real life!"
Fiction affects and reflects reality. This is an objective fact, and I can list numerous examples. The movie Bambi causing deer hunting to drop by half, two girls nearly stabbing another girl to death to use her as a sacrifice for the fictional character of Slenderman, the term "Orwellian" being used to describe a specific dystopia because of George Orwells books talking about it. Need I remind you that propaganda exists? The peices of art made during wars in order to influence people on how to think of the imposing side.
It is absolutely ridiculous to believe that fiction doesn't affect reality. If it didn't, then nobody would be making fiction. Have you ever laughed or cried during an episode of a TV show or a movie? Congrats, fiction affected your reality.
This is what a proshipper is, not your wishy-washy definition of what you want a proshipper to be.
I'm really sorry to break it to you, but the correct definition of proship is quite literally one that promotes anti-harassment. Being proship and being anti-harassment over fictional ships / fictional content go hand in hand. The fact that you're trying to tell me - a proshipper- that I'm wrong about the definition of something that I identify as...it's a bit pointless.
I would much rather take my own word for what proship is than take the word of an anti. Over the years, antis have quite literally twisted and slandered the meaning of proship - making it seem like we're terrible people that all ship incest and the like, and then go on to say that we are the ones who usually go out of their way to attack others. Not only that, but antis also believe that all proshippers are groomers, predators, and horrible people that always support the themes and concepts that they ship in fiction. This is also incorrect. We do not endorse any of these things in real life. Proshippers, even if they do ship incest or pedo things, do NOT and will NEVER support those things in the real world. I understand that in some cases fiction can affect reality, but fiction =/= on a 1:1 basis. It never has, and it never will. Supporting those things in fiction when you're a proshipper do NOT carry through into real life.
By your logic, if someone were to enjoy or have a favorite fictional character that's a murderer, that means that they enjoy murdering people / would like to become a murderer themselves in real life. Are there examples where fiction has affected reality? Yes. Should those examples be used to speak for everyone that enjoys anything in fiction? Hell no. You can ship things in fiction and not enjoy the same 'theme' of said things that you ship in real life. I really wish that this wasn't such a controversial topic.
All in all, I really wish you would properly educate yourself before saying things like this. The definition of proship that you think is not correct - as a proshipper, I'm pretty sure I would know...just saying. Fiction =/= reality on a 1:1 basis, and it never will. Proshippers do not go out their way to romanticize incest, pedo, and otherwise 'illegal' content. A staple to the definition of proship is quite literally anti-harassment. Being anti-harassment is part of being proship. I'm not saying that people that are anti-harassment always identify as proship as well, I'm just saying that proshippers are inherently anti-harassment when it comes to fictional content.
I'm sorry that you feel the way you do about proshippers, but we literally aren't doing anything wrong. We are not the monsters people make us out to be. We're just normal people that enjoy things in fiction. The label proship does not mean that we are predators, it does not mean that we are awful people, it does not mean that we all ship or enjoy 'problematic' content in fiction. It simply means that we will let anyone ship what they want, and that we aren't going to attack them for it. Some proshippers enjoy 'problematic' content, and that's completely fine. Because what they do with fiction that isn't real is nobody else's business but their own. If they're happy, not hurting anyone, and not doing anything illegal...then I really don't see what the problem is.
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